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DreamGazer · 2004-08-13, 11:38

Just wonderin, wat tools are u guys using to make karaoke sub

ChibiDusk · 2004-08-13, 12:32

Substation Alpha -> just google it

zalas · 2004-08-13, 12:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by DreamGazer

Just wonderin, wat tools are u guys using to make karaoke sub

Notepad, SSA and maybe Perl.

crumja · 2004-08-13, 16:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by zalas

Notepad, SSA and maybe Perl.

=O NOOOOO! Damnit, I don't know Perl. Ah well, C++ took me a long time but i still managed.

LytHka · 2004-08-13, 17:22

I guess SSA+Medusa (at times)+NJStar+Notepad+C++

OMG >:O Remember, there is no spoon o.o

Marvel · 2004-08-15, 12:00

Are there turorials somewhere that explain how to make an simple effect ?

Mr_Paper · 2004-08-15, 15:31

The best tutorial devised by man:

http://members.shaw.ca/tragd/textsub..._morphinex.txt

Tiduz · 2004-11-02, 12:57

Karaoke subbing, i did it one time like the sentence would fade colors or something, but i want to do it so that with every word he/she sings the word lights up like many karaoke fansubs, anyone have a tut on how to do that?

Sylf · 2004-11-02, 15:47

Say, you have the original line of karaoke that looks like

Code:

{\K237}da{\K42}i{\K29}su{\K103}ki{\K129}yo

All you need to do is to figure out how to convert all \K tags with \t tags.

Let's take your request as an example - make it look like the text is glowing.
Basic concept -
The translation between \K tag and \t tag are not very transparent. \K tags are all noted in centiseconds. \t are in milliseconds. Also, \t timing are absolute against when the entire line was shown, compared to \K, which you must consider the length of karaoke effect in prior words / syllables. So, in above example, what you should end up with is something like:

Code:

{\t(0,2370,\effect)}da{\r\t(2370,2790,\effect)}i{\r\t(2790,3080,\effect)}su...

What happened there?
{\t(0,2370,\effect)}da - The effect for the first syllable takes 2370ms. Nice and simple.
{\r\t(2370,2790,\effect)}i - First, put \r to reset the effects specified prior to this spot, so the text beyond this point will look unchanged until the next specified time. Then, the effect starts 2370ms after the line was displayed, and goes on for 420ms.

Now, take that concept, and apply couple real effects:
Method 1 - use the border thickness shift

Code:

{\bord1\t(0,2370,\bord4)}da{\r\bord1\t(2370,2790,\bord4)}i{\r\bord1\t(2790,3080,\bord4)}su...

Method 2 - use the alpha transparency fades

Code:

{\3a&HFF&\t(0,2370,\3a&H44&)}da{\r\3a&HFF&\t(2370,2790,\3a&H44&)}i{\r\3a&HFF&\t(2790,3080,\3a&H44&)}su...

Method 3 - combined the previous 2 methods

Code:

{\bord1\3a&HFF&\t(0,2370,\3a&H44&\bord4)}da{\r\bord1\3a&HFF&\t(2370,2790,\3a&H44&\bord4)}i{\r\bord1\3a&HFF&\t(2790,3080,\3a&H44&\bord4)}su...

Of course, you're not limited to 1 \t tag per syllable.
Method 4 - glow & fade of Method 3

Code:

{\bord1\3a&HFF&\t(0,200,\3a&H44&\bord4)\t(200,2370,\3a&HAA&\bord1.6)}da{\r\bord1\3a&HFF&\t(2370,2570,\3a&H44&\bord4)\t(2570,2790,\3a&HAA&\bord1.6)}i{\r\bord1\3a&HFF&\t(2790,2990,\3a&H44&\bord4)\t(2990,3080,\3a&HAA&\bord1.6)}su...

That's the gist of it.

Disclaimer - I didn't test the code used in here, so it may have some bugs. And I'm quite certain that it'll be ugly. But you should get the idea of how things can be done. The rest is up to your imagination.

Note - check out the post by Mr Paper in http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...5&page=1&pp=20 for the possible effects used in \t tag. (Basically, all the hints given in this post have been posted previously within this thread... but I committed the sin of not reading the entire thread beforehand >.< )

Shanelle · 2004-11-03, 04:44

anyone know how to make this effects?

1.- Split the letters in two colors (one color up and one color down)
2.- Degrade color in the all line or int he border.

Well, like this...

http://www.katsuai.com/images/01.JPG
http://www.katsuai.com/images/02.JPG

Thanks !

LytHka · 2004-11-03, 05:02

It's just a bunch of same karaoke lines placed in the same position using the \clip command that cuts out everything that isn't in the rectangular that you specify.

Shanelle · 2004-11-04, 07:04

I understand the first question with the \clip, but, in the second imagen, too is with the \clip???

LytHka · 2004-11-04, 08:31

yes, i believe so. there's just many lines, not only three (like in the first image) that make the the border with gradient effect. all other colours stay the same except when a \t occurs

Sylf · 2004-11-04, 10:27

Yup - it's a bit hard to tell, but it looks like that karaoke may consist of 7 or 8 SSA/ASS lines with narrow bands of \clip's.

DarkPaladin56 · 2004-11-06, 00:53

when people get really lazy, people make karaoke scripts, that run thru the {\k} (the timings) and inputs the karaoke effects itself, saves alot of time

crumja · 2004-11-06, 01:26

Nah, I don't think it's because of laziness. I mean, who would want to sit there and write out 10000 lines for a single karaoke? >.< It's all about convenience.

Sakaki- · 2004-11-08, 13:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkPaladin56

when people get really lazy, people make karaoke scripts, that run thru the {\k} (the timings) and inputs the karaoke effects itself, saves alot of time

Me wants to see karaoke writen by hand !!!!111ONE!!11ELEVEN!!!

SirCanealot · 2004-11-08, 19:28

Hai! Sakaki-san~ ^_^!!

http://www.williams1.homechoice.co.uk/HKaraoke.png

Mr_Paper · 2004-11-09, 10:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirCanealot

Hai! Sakaki-san~ ^_^!!

http://www.williams1.homechoice.co.uk/HKaraoke.png

Okay, now that I have the scipt I'll just feed it through the proper plugins/filters...

Sakaki- · 2004-11-09, 11:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirCanealot

Hai! Sakaki-san~ ^_^!!

http://www.williams1.homechoice.co.uk/HKaraoke.png

Haha that was a good one ^_^

2004-08-13, 11:38	Link #41
DreamGazer Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004	Karaoke Sub Just wonderin, wat tools are u guys using to make karaoke sub

2004-11-02, 12:57	Link #48
Tiduz Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004	Does anyone have tuts/help for... Karaoke subbing, i did it one time like the sentence would fade colors or something, but i want to do it so that with every word he/she sings the word lights up like many karaoke fansubs, anyone have a tut on how to do that?

2004-11-02, 15:47	Link #49
Sylf 翻訳家わなびぃ Fansubber Join Date: Nov 2003 Age: 50	Say, you have the original line of karaoke that looks like Code: {\K237}da{\K42}i{\K29}su{\K103}ki{\K129}yo All you need to do is to figure out how to convert all \K tags with \t tags. Let's take your request as an example - make it look like the text is glowing. Basic concept - The translation between \K tag and \t tag are not very transparent. \K tags are all noted in centiseconds. \t are in milliseconds. Also, \t timing are absolute against when the entire line was shown, compared to \K, which you must consider the length of karaoke effect in prior words / syllables. So, in above example, what you should end up with is something like: Code: {\t(0,2370,\effect)}da{\r\t(2370,2790,\effect)}i{\r\t(2790,3080,\effect)}su... What happened there? {\t(0,2370,\effect)}da - The effect for the first syllable takes 2370ms. Nice and simple. {\r\t(2370,2790,\effect)}i - First, put \r to reset the effects specified prior to this spot, so the text beyond this point will look unchanged until the next specified time. Then, the effect starts 2370ms after the line was displayed, and goes on for 420ms. Now, take that concept, and apply couple real effects: Method 1 - use the border thickness shift Code: {\bord1\t(0,2370,\bord4)}da{\r\bord1\t(2370,2790,\bord4)}i{\r\bord1\t(2790,3080,\bord4)}su... Method 2 - use the alpha transparency fades Code: {\3a&HFF&\t(0,2370,\3a&H44&)}da{\r\3a&HFF&\t(2370,2790,\3a&H44&)}i{\r\3a&HFF&\t(2790,3080,\3a&H44&)}su... Method 3 - combined the previous 2 methods Code: {\bord1\3a&HFF&\t(0,2370,\3a&H44&\bord4)}da{\r\bord1\3a&HFF&\t(2370,2790,\3a&H44&\bord4)}i{\r\bord1\3a&HFF&\t(2790,3080,\3a&H44&\bord4)}su... Of course, you're not limited to 1 \t tag per syllable. Method 4 - glow & fade of Method 3 Code: {\bord1\3a&HFF&\t(0,200,\3a&H44&\bord4)\t(200,2370,\3a&HAA&\bord1.6)}da{\r\bord1\3a&HFF&\t(2370,2570,\3a&H44&\bord4)\t(2570,2790,\3a&HAA&\bord1.6)}i{\r\bord1\3a&HFF&\t(2790,2990,\3a&H44&\bord4)\t(2990,3080,\3a&HAA&\bord1.6)}su... That's the gist of it. Disclaimer - I didn't test the code used in here, so it may have some bugs. And I'm quite certain that it'll be ugly. But you should get the idea of how things can be done. The rest is up to your imagination. Note - check out the post by Mr Paper in http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...5&page=1&pp=20 for the possible effects used in \t tag. (Basically, all the hints given in this post have been posted previously within this thread... but I committed the sin of not reading the entire thread beforehand >.< ) Last edited by Sylf; 2004-11-02 at 15:59.

2004-08-13, 12:32	Link #42
ChibiDusk Back From The Dead? Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canada Age: 34	Substation Alpha -> just google it

2004-08-13, 17:22	Link #45
LytHka Banned Join Date: Jan 2004	I guess SSA+Medusa (at times)+NJStar+Notepad+C++ OMG >:O Remember, there is no spoon o.o

2004-08-15, 12:00	Link #46
Marvel Demon-Fox Inside© Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 38	Are there turorials somewhere that explain how to make an simple effect ?

2004-08-15, 15:31	Link #47
Mr_Paper Hmm... Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Looking for his book...	The best tutorial devised by man: http://members.shaw.ca/tragd/textsub..._morphinex.txt

2004-11-03, 04:44	Link #50
Shanelle Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004	anyone know how to make this effects? 1.- Split the letters in two colors (one color up and one color down) 2.- Degrade color in the all line or int he border. Well, like this... http://www.katsuai.com/images/01.JPG http://www.katsuai.com/images/02.JPG Thanks !

2004-11-03, 05:02	Link #51
LytHka Banned Join Date: Jan 2004	It's just a bunch of same karaoke lines placed in the same position using the \clip command that cuts out everything that isn't in the rectangular that you specify.

2004-11-04, 07:04	Link #52
Shanelle Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004	I understand the first question with the \clip, but, in the second imagen, too is with the \clip???

2004-11-04, 08:31	Link #53
LytHka Banned Join Date: Jan 2004	yes, i believe so. there's just many lines, not only three (like in the first image) that make the the border with gradient effect. all other colours stay the same except when a \t occurs

2004-11-04, 10:27	Link #54
Sylf 翻訳家わなびぃ Fansubber Join Date: Nov 2003 Age: 50	Yup - it's a bit hard to tell, but it looks like that karaoke may consist of 7 or 8 SSA/ASS lines with narrow bands of \clip's.

2004-11-06, 00:53	Link #55
DarkPaladin56 Wandering Typesetter Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Canada Age: 35	when people get really lazy, people make karaoke scripts, that run thru the {\k} (the timings) and inputs the karaoke effects itself, saves alot of time

2004-11-06, 01:26	Link #56
crumja AnimeONE Do-It-All Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: US Age: 36	Nah, I don't think it's because of laziness. I mean, who would want to sit there and write out 10000 lines for a single karaoke? >.< It's all about convenience.

2004-11-08, 19:28	Link #58
SirCanealot What? I am washed up! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: London, England Age: 39	Hai! Sakaki-san~ ^_^!! http://www.williams1.homechoice.co.uk/HKaraoke.png