Buying a Playstation 2

[pepper_begs]

Are the fatty PS2's formatted in FAT32?

Are software exploits easier on the fattys?

[Aka]

Originally Posted by Benoit

I'm sorry, I really can't be bothered when this is common knowledge. It's even fact that Sony for a long time has built hardware with lower quality.

Then you can't prove your own words for it. Can't prove anything, stay quiet; I suggest that, just making a fool of yourself.

[hobbes_fan]

Criticism with no proof=shenanigans. Smells like xbox fanboy

[KNETTER2000]

Originally Posted by hobbes_fan

Criticism with no proof=shenanigans. Smells like xbox fanboy

just Look around on the many ps2 modforums and read for yourself..

V1 to V3 suffered from heat, v4 through v7/8 were good where V7 was the best, but they let themselves down again on V9 and V10 with shoddy laserunits and chips that overheated.

The first slimlines suffered from overheating, cheap internal design and crashing controllerchips with laserfries as an effect.

I've done numerous mods from v3 ( v1 and v2 only came out in Japan and never here in europe) up to v14 and have encountered my share of burnt and defective PS2 units.

There's nothing Xbox Fanboy about this, cause I also have two Xboxes( use them as mediacenters not for gaming) next to my 3 ps2's and 2 PSP's.
I'm currently saving to get a 360 and a PS3.

[Sides]

Originally Posted by pepper_begs

Are the fatty PS2's formatted in FAT32?

Are software exploits easier on the fattys?

You mean if you use a HDD, with hdloader ?
Nope it is not fat32.
Using USB HDD, with Hdadvance, on the slim ones is a bad idea,
since the PS2 uses USB1.0 so it will be slower than the DVD drive.
The idea of HDloader is to reduce the loading time.
However you can mod the slim ps2 with HDcombo, but that requires some work.

Exploit, if you mean the indepence exploit,
it only works with the proper ps2.

Come on people, sony was a good brand
back until the mid 90's,
today most of their products aren't really reliable.
People still assume that they make good value products,
only because of their past, but if you have a look at their
products today and ignore the brand name,
you'll see that most of them are cheap rebranded tawianese or korean stuff.

[Benoit]

Then you can't prove your own words for it.

People just love to make assumptions favorable to them. Just because I can't be bothered to back up what you should already know in the first place doesn't mean I can't.

[Master zoid pilot]

Originally Posted by KNETTER2000

just Look around on the many ps2 modforums and read for yourself..

V1 to V3 suffered from heat, v4 through v7/8 were good where V7 was the best, but they let themselves down again on V9 and V10 with shoddy laserunits and chips that overheated.

The first slimlines suffered from overheating, cheap internal design and crashing controllerchips with laserfries as an effect.

I've done numerous mods from v3 ( v1 and v2 only came out in Japan and never here in europe) up to v14 and have encountered my share of burnt and defective PS2 units.

There's nothing Xbox Fanboy about this, cause I also have two Xboxes( use them as mediacenters not for gaming) next to my 3 ps2's and 2 PSP's.
I'm currently saving to get a 360 and a PS3.

Blah(I could have quoted a lot of ppl but I chose you so feel special )Every company makes defective crap at times, I'm sure you have seen just as much X-box's with heating problems and fried w/e lol. I personally just haven't known or seen any broken PS2's but I know many exist.

[Joe88]

Originally Posted by KNETTER2000

just Look around on the many ps2 modforums and read for yourself..

V1 to V3 suffered from heat, v4 through v7/8 were good where V7 was the best, but they let themselves down again on V9 and V10 with shoddy laserunits and chips that overheated.

The first slimlines suffered from overheating, cheap internal design and crashing controllerchips with laserfries as an effect.

I've done numerous mods from v3 ( v1 and v2 only came out in Japan and never here in europe) up to v14 and have encountered my share of burnt and defective PS2 units.

There's nothing Xbox Fanboy about this, cause I also have two Xboxes( use them as mediacenters not for gaming) next to my 3 ps2's and 2 PSP's.
I'm currently saving to get a 360 and a PS3.

overheating was never a issue
xbox's always had problems with over heating, especially the 360

the only problem there was that the lasers were crap
until 50001 series

I have a v9 PS2 (my v4 laser burnt out)
I have had it for two years with no problems or not one DRE yet
modded it was DMS4 + ToxicOS v0.41 + uLauncherElf v4.12 + Maxtor 120GB + HD LOADER v0.8b
as well as FTP apps

v7 was not the best by any means

[slayer]

the older ps2 models are much better imo. The likely hood of it overheating is less than the slim ones with no fans with mod. The slim ones tend to lock up on me like a bitch. I have a v1 ps2 and it seems fine with no overheating but probably because i clean it up often.

[KNETTER2000]

Originally Posted by Joe88

overheating was never a issue
xbox's always had problems with over heating, especially the 360

the only problem there was that the lasers were crap
until 50001 series

I have a v9 PS2 (my v4 laser burnt out)
I have had it for two years with no problems or not one DRE yet
modded it was DMS4 + ToxicOS v0.41 + uLauncherElf v4.12 + Maxtor 120GB + HD LOADER v0.8b
as well as FTP apps

v7 was not the best by any means

Trust me when I say the V7 was the best one of the fat ones and that there were v0 to 3 that suffered from overheating. the internal design was partially to blame for that.

I bet that if you had tweaked the laserpots of your old V4 and cleaned it you'd had gotten a couple of months or even way more extra off of it. Old lasers just give up, lenses get dirty, focus is off, bad or low grade CDR or DVDR media is used, that's what happens... back in the days where we installed NEO chips you had to tweak down the pots to get it to read CD-R wich accelerated the demise of a laserunit greatly.

V9's had laserbreakdowns by the dozen from the very start. It's even called "V9 dead syndrome" After wich they came up with a special fix for v9 and v10's called the "romeo mod". It's where they pull the 12V off the LA/BA chip and put 5V on it instead to prevent the possibility of letting itself burn out, especially when using burnt media of low grade. I bet yours has got that mod too if it was done by a professional.

@slayerthe slim ones actually do have a fan.. it just seems that it's not that effective...

[Joe88]

I bought my v9 from best buy
and installed the chip and everything else my self
in December 04/05

[KNETTER2000]

With or without the romeo mod.

[Choo!]

You can get any model you want. If you want to play Import games on an American PS2 it is in fact possible. They have a software called "Magic Disk" or something like that, If your interested PM me and I will try to find more details on it. You just have to unscrew a screw on where you put the Game disc in and then put the game in and apply a chip. The software is approx. $30. I brought it to play Bleach Blade Battlers.

[Jazzrat]

my v1 PS2 still works like a charm after modding it twice, dropped a few times, left running for a week plus. Most of the slim version owners i know had overheating issue so i wouldnt recommend em.

[Ending]

Same here, although I haven't dropped it even once, yet. It's a slim version with Matrix Infinity, so the enhanced features have made using it quite lovely. No more staring the fricking "SONY" screen every time you want to play!

[Joe88]

Originally Posted by Wordplay

No more staring the fricking "SONY" screen every time you want to play!

O.o

it annoys you that much ?
mine has thats + the DMS4 logo under it xD