2009-02-05, 16:17 | Link #1 |
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Windows 7 WMP12 quality: what causes it?
I'm using the x64 Windows 7 beta build on my HTPC. I've got CCCP installed. When viewing an h.264 .mkv in Windows Media Player 7, the visual quality far exceeds that which I get in WMP Classic.
Does anyone know why WMP12 has such a vibrant display? Is there any way to replicate this effect in WMP Classic? I noticed this first while watching Code Geass. There is a distinct difference in visual quality. WMP Classic appears washed out in comparison. |
2009-02-05, 16:29 | Link #2 |
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Might be the rendering engine used.
Windows Vista introduced EVR (Enhanced Video Renderer), I assume Windows 7 (and the bundled WMP) uses it a well. Media Player Classic typically uses the Haali Renderer, and its support of EVR is somewhat experimental (or just absent, depending on which version you use). It's the only reason I can think of, since both players would use the same splitters and codecs. |
2009-02-05, 16:53 | Link #3 |
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I haven't used the Vista WMP. If it incorporates EVR as well, would it make sense that it would also have the same video quality? Maybe we're dealing with settings/version issues.
And if that's installed on the machine, could I set WMP Classic to use it though CCCP? |
2009-02-05, 17:16 | Link #4 |
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To be honest, I have never used WMP 11 on my Vista computer... I have a unique bug that has it stuck in a permanent mini-mode with no way out!
To use EVR in Media Player Classic, you can choose it in the Option prompt: Playback > Output. Pick either EVR or EVR Custom Pres (for softsub support). It's still stated as experimental, though. Do keep us posted if that helps video quality. |
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2009-04-04, 03:48 | Link #9 |
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*Bump* Just tried this myself on my Windows 7 box and it works great! Looks like whatever is 'System Default' for DirectShow on Vista/Windows 7 is crap, and not what WMP uses. Wish I found this thread earlier, I was getting pretty frustrated with the washed-out pixelated mess from MPC while WMP12 had beautiful playback. I'm just glad this isn't part of the whole "locking down codecs" drama or whatever.
I think this information should be in a sticky somewhere. Froth-bite's thread which I have been following for years was the reason I kept using system default for DirectShow. |
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