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Old 2012-01-07, 01:45   Link #18921
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Or you could move to New York/Boston/Chicago.

I was fairly impressed with New York's metro.
Really? Because when I ride trains in Queens I thought it was very dirty.
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Old 2012-01-07, 06:24   Link #18922
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Old 2012-01-07, 12:47   Link #18923
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Really? Because when I ride trains in Queens I thought it was very dirty.
1. Trains are fairly dirty wherever you are, grass is always greener and all that.

2. However, Queens wasn't as nice as Manhattan. In Queens you're already beginning to go into the Long Island suburbia/strip mall car zone. New York is a huge city, and not all of it is so great.

But still, your train may be dirty and poorly maintained, but it's still there. That's a lot better then a lot of places. I wish Dublin had a decent train system. We have 1 train line, and 2 recently opened light rail lines. Weird thing is, none of them link up anywhere...
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Old 2012-01-07, 12:54   Link #18924
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The closest thing to a clear rail system was the Metro in Washington, D.C.
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Old 2012-01-07, 13:58   Link #18925
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1. Trains are fairly dirty wherever you are, grass is always greener and all that.

2. However, Queens wasn't as nice as Manhattan. In Queens you're already beginning to go into the Long Island suburbia/strip mall car zone. New York is a huge city, and not all of it is so great.
Well, it seems our experiences are quite different. My impression of NYC metro is pretty bad. It is just too old: water dripping from the roof at places on the platform, and graffiti over quite some places on the train or at the stations. On the other hand, my impression of the DC metro was much better.

As for all trains are dirty, you should visit places in Asia more. I don't think I'll describe metros in HK, Shanghai, Beijing or Taipei as dirty. The stations in Bangkok are a bit dusty (so are the smaller stations in Beijing), but the trains are still quite fine. Trains in Asia pacific are usually much crowded, unfortunately.
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Old 2012-01-07, 15:08   Link #18926
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Well, it seems our experiences are quite different. My impression of NYC metro is pretty bad. It is just too old: water dripping from the roof at places on the platform, and graffiti over quite some places on the train or at the stations. On the other hand, my impression of the DC metro was much better.

As for all trains are dirty, you should visit places in Asia more. I don't think I'll describe metros in HK, Shanghai, Beijing or Taipei as dirty. The stations in Bangkok are a bit dusty (so are the smaller stations in Beijing), but the trains are still quite fine. Trains in Asia pacific are usually much crowded, unfortunately.
The Metros in China were only built recently, they haven't had the time to develop the years of dirt. Shanghai's metro only started in 1995, while NYC's has been in continuous operation since 1904. You shouldn't make a comparison between the two. Though I'd say Tokyo's subway would be a better comparison, but it's not exactly perfect either, what with how overcrowded it is. Still, Tokyo's probably the world's best Metro system all the same.

The NYC metro is not perfect, but it is one of the largest and most used mass transit system in the world. So it can't really be labelled as a failure. Sure it could use improvement, but I would still label it a world leader. You can fairly easily get around almost the entirety of the city without ever getting in a car, and most New Yorkers don't use cars for their commute, only 30% do. As a resident of a city without any form of cohesive metro, it's very impressive. Of course there's other cities with more modern and better run systems, but it's still has a better system then the majority of other cities. If you think NYC has a bad transport system, well, try LA!

DC's metro system is also significantly younger then NYC's, it only opened in 1976.

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Old 2012-01-07, 15:14   Link #18927
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I am interested to find out if this has been reported in Iran on TV or any news papers?
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Old 2012-01-07, 15:30   Link #18928
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I am interested to find out if this has been reported in Iran on TV or any news papers?
It has:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16455164
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Old 2012-01-07, 20:45   Link #18929
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Iran State news acknowledged it but called it "a Hollywoodization of a routine incident". I bet that made the sailors feel good... :P
US or Iran ... narratives of cartoon villains makes the true idea of them doing something nice on occasion hard to process.
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Old 2012-01-07, 23:00   Link #18930
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Old 2012-01-07, 23:23   Link #18931
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Racism in third grade math homework (Georgia public schools)

http://news.yahoo.com/fred-got-two-b...-abc-news.html

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The question read, "Each tree had 56 oranges. If eight slaves pick them equally, then how much would each slave pick?"

Another math problem read, "If Frederick got two beatings per day, how many beatings did he get in one week?"

Another question asked how many baskets of cotton Frederick filled.
That is bolded so that it is clear they weren't referring to any other kind of slaves.

Some racists jerks thought that'd be funny to put into the math problems, huh? I wonder if they will even be fired for it. Probably not.
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Old 2012-01-08, 07:47   Link #18932
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Iran to Kill Internet Within Weeks - my initial reaction was like, "What? Ahmadinejad wants to wage war against the Internet?" The leet must be busting a gut on that, but what Iran wants to do is to impose a domestic, government-controlled intranet straight out of 1984, with surveillance cameras, ID checks, and a dozen more Orwellian security measures that would've made Beria proud.
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Old 2012-01-08, 10:00   Link #18933
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Iran to Kill Internet Within Weeks - my initial reaction was like, "What? Ahmadinejad wants to wage war against the Internet?" The leet must be busting a gut on that, but what Iran wants to do is to impose a domestic, government-controlled intranet straight out of 1984, with surveillance cameras, ID checks, and a dozen more Orwellian security measures that would've made Beria proud.
Sounds like a recipe for self-destruction to me.
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Old 2012-01-08, 10:09   Link #18934
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Old 2012-01-08, 10:45   Link #18935
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Sounds like a recipe for self-destruction to me.
Which led me thinking that Ahmadinejad's elite are massing up more bandwidth than MIT for their personal use, like uh, leeching pr0n when the minders are asleep.
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Old 2012-01-08, 10:57   Link #18936
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Which led me thinking that Ahmadinejad's elite are massing up more bandwidth than MIT for their personal use, like uh, leeching pr0n when the minders are asleep.
Halalnet[dot]beneaththeburqa[dot]ir

Come to think of it, I wonder what kind of pr0n Ahmadimejad and Khamieni would like.....lolis perhaps?
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Old 2012-01-08, 10:57   Link #18937
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Iran to Kill Internet Within Weeks - my initial reaction was like, "What? Ahmadinejad wants to wage war against the Internet?" The leet must be busting a gut on that, but what Iran wants to do is to impose a domestic, government-controlled intranet straight out of 1984, with surveillance cameras, ID checks, and a dozen more Orwellian security measures that would've made Beria proud.
China called, she said it's not working out too good for her.
And Cuba's not even picking up her phone.
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Old 2012-01-08, 11:14   Link #18938
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Come to think of it, I wonder what kind of pr0n Ahmadimejad and Khamieni would like.....lolis perhaps?

People who like lolis can't be bad person.
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Old 2012-01-08, 11:15   Link #18939
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Come to think of it, I wonder what kind of pr0n Ahmadimejad and Khamieni would like.....lolis perhaps?
''Would like'' ?
So you don't think than they did already use some ?
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Old 2012-01-08, 11:49   Link #18940
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Come to think of it, I wonder what kind of pr0n Ahmadimejad and Khamieni would like.....lolis perhaps?
The most ironic thing I can think of would be yaoi.
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