2010-12-28, 05:31 | Link #10901 |
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Well that's an editorial more than a news item so...
More so, from what I gather this law does not technically legalize euthanasia for the terminally ill and the near-death, but rather gives doctors the right (and the appropriate compensation) to allow for end-stage palliative and preparatory treatment for patients who are on their absolute last legs and last gasps rather than letting doctors sit on the sidelines to let patients simply go forth and die. So it's not a "death panel" or whatever people want to call it. It's end stage palliative care for the dying, allowing doctors the right to counsel the patient and their family on palliative care to ease the suffering of the patients to at least give them some humane experience as they move on towards death, rather than say dying like a dog in complete pain and suffering. Also, this will (in theory) increase patient rights and awareness towards their control over the way and the process in which they die, rather than simply waiting for death to take them. The problem with this bill of course is that it is subject to abuse. This is a mix bag of medical ethics and legalities, wherein are doctors in their counseling state that assumes they are in a knowledgeable position to advise the correct procedures for the dying patient. This makes it fairly easy for doctors, scrupulous or not, to "push" their patients and their families towards making the end-of-life choices even in situations where it is not warranted or completely irresponsible. There still does exist the possibility that doctors may use this to accelerate patients towards death when it doesn't have to be like that. Doctors are in positions of power, and when abused, the law "can" actually give a legal backing for doctors to indirectly cause euthanasia under the guise of end-of-life palliative care. As it stands the bill looks good in increasing patient rights and awareness to improve patient and doctor capacities for end stage care, but it needs a whole lot of study to make sure it doesn't become abused. It is not, however, a legalization of euthanasia that a lot of people fear it to be.
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2010-12-28, 05:38 | Link #10902 | |
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2010-12-28, 07:50 | Link #10906 |
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It is not in fact a morality issue. It's paying a doctor to discuss a patient's options in the face of a life threatening illness or things like being on a ventilator the rest of their life. It's the kind of thing that should be planned out in advance of facing said situations when you don't have the stress of said situation and can have access to a physician to make an informed decision. It isn't mandating said visits, nor is it requiring any such decisions to be enforced. If someone doesn't want to, they don't have to use the option, and if they do, then change their mind when they actually get sick, that would be fine too.
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2010-12-28, 09:09 | Link #10907 |
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Russia accuses West of meddling in tycoon Khodorkovsky's trial
http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNew...6BN1DH20101228
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2010-12-28, 10:40 | Link #10908 | |
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Palliative care recognizes they can't fix everything and the goal is to keep you comfortable and functional for what time is left. Pain management is an essential component of palliative care. Yes, there's some danger anytime you create policy because some nimrod may game the system... but the alternative is worse. Having some guidelines means not having to re-invent the wheel each time.
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2010-12-28, 11:49 | Link #10909 | |
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2010-12-28, 12:11 | Link #10910 |
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Hmm... should I have the government pay for me to talk with a doctor to plan for my end-of-life decisions in private or should I just let the media, the public, politicians, religious figures, and judges debate what to do with my life like Terry Schiavo?
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2010-12-28, 16:33 | Link #10911 | |
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That's because doctors wouldn't provide that counseling, that should normally be given, to their patients. In order for them to provide that basic service, the state decided to pay them for it. That's all there is to this.
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2010-12-29, 01:18 | Link #10913 | |
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chevron is no saint but exactly feel sorry for the other side either.
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2010-12-29, 01:32 | Link #10914 | |
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I think a lot of people just don't ever get to see how good healthcare can really be in the US. It doesn't stop them from bragging about it in the same breath.
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2010-12-29, 04:10 | Link #10915 | |
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How is that better FOR THE PATIENT than a non-profit singlepay system? Or an group co-operative bargaining unit (guild, union, AARP, whatever)? Its only better for the few at the top who profit at the expense of everyone else.
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2010-12-29, 08:56 | Link #10916 |
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And that is what the Tea Paerty advocates. They're all influenced by the Koch people, Heritage Foundation, Norquist, and a wily Aussie by the name of Murdoch, who has a Saudi business partner with a 8% stake in Fox. Note that? SAUDI business partner. Ignore what O'RLY, Beck or Hannity says, they have 8% of their salary paid out indirectly by a Saudi. They are well known for booking a whole floor at a NY hospital just for one fella. If that is not exclusive medical access, then pray tell, what is?
I still think Sweden is way ahead of its time. Every time I eat their canned herring, I know. Ther medical facilities beat the US anyday. Sure, it's quite a little more expensive (both ways, I'm a foreigner), but Swedish hospitals do the necessary, and not what rakes in the dough.
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2010-12-29, 09:02 | Link #10917 |
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Rains, flooding prompt evacuations in Australia
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1851639/
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2010-12-29, 10:59 | Link #10918 |
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The notorious message board 4Chan has been taken offline by an overwhelming web attack.
Now who has the numbers to do that?
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2010-12-29, 11:31 | Link #10919 | |
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