2010-06-23, 05:16 | Link #7921 | |
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In Reversal, Some Japan Theaters to Screen ‘The Cove’
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Good to see that Free Speech is winning the day here (at least for the moment). If people don't want to go see it, they don't have to; if people want to defend the practice, they can do that, but preventing the film from being shown in theaters is a way of controlling what other people are allowed to think, and that is wrong (IMO). |
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2010-06-23, 08:02 | Link #7922 | ||
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High tech toy's and search and destroy operations don't matter if you don't have the ground troops to protect your own supply lines. If you can't manage that then you're never going to manage maintaining control of all those rural villages. Can't manage to do that and the Taliban will control them defacto and be able to launch operations. Trying to win over the populations hearts and minds from cutthroats is a waste of time if you can't provide any security from said cutthroats. Quote:
When you've got US military supply contracts paying the Taliban protection money because the US military won't protect those supply contractors, you know that there has to be something to McChrystal saying that more ground troops are needed. Last edited by Roger Rambo; 2010-06-23 at 08:27. |
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2010-06-23, 13:06 | Link #7923 | |
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Obama fires McChrystal
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2010-06-23, 14:29 | Link #7925 | |
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C'mon, I am sure an ex-Special forces general has more COIN experience than anyone else in dealing with hardcore militants. This isn't insubordination for Obama, this is betrayal for McChrystal.
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2010-06-23, 15:39 | Link #7926 | |
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888. ART. 88. CONTEMPT TOWARD OFFICIALS Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.
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2010-06-23, 17:22 | Link #7928 | |
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THOSE are the skills at the top of my list i get that obama can't allow someone who so blatantly criticized him to stay on board, but on the whole its more his fault then he'd like to admit. if the the guy leading your soldiers in the field is so frustrated with your actions and behavior, maybe you should take note McChrystal made a LOT of criticism he should take some of it to heart, and stop being so indecisive
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2010-06-23, 17:44 | Link #7929 |
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Frankly I'm sympathetic to the objections that McCrystal made about the Obama administration. I'm not sympathetic about him coming out in public and questioning the chain of command. While it's very easy to side with the general if you don't like Obama, you really don't want a situation where military leaders go out in public and question the civillian leaderships judgment. Having that that be routine can often lead to dangerious situations.
This is not to say that McChrystal is anything resembling treasonous. It's just that reprimanding him here on principle is just a safety mechanism for civillian run militaries to function. |
2010-06-23, 17:47 | Link #7930 |
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http://thenextweb.com/us/2010/06/23/...ingement-case/
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2010-06-23, 21:04 | Link #7931 | |
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2010-06-23, 21:12 | Link #7932 |
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An officer of that high a rank must know how to deal with the media. After all, keeping up morale (even that of the civilian public) is important to strategy. Presenting the conflict as some sort of failure, or in this case revealing that there is disagreement instead of decisiveness at the top of the chain would quickly drain public support, which may lead to a pullout before the Taliban/Al Qaeda is crushed, which would be a defeat.
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2010-06-23, 21:13 | Link #7933 | |
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2010-06-24, 00:47 | Link #7934 | |
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The trouble is that you need tight cooperation between the military and the non-military elements. McChrystal's frustrations as a military man were understandable, but his alienation of the non-military personnel were certainly not good. He was basically failing at the job that he was designated in that regard. The interview was just the tip of the iceberg, and the final straw of a lack of professionalism. People like to speak as if Obama was reacting purely to the article, but I'm sure that this has been building for a long time.
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2010-06-24, 09:59 | Link #7935 | ||
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2010-06-24, 10:05 | Link #7936 | |
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Kevin Rudd deposed as Australian PM
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And, no, it has nothing to do with the Socceroos being kicked out of the World Cup. |
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2010-06-24, 10:09 | Link #7937 | |
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2010-06-24, 10:54 | Link #7938 | |
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McChrystal's move was to knock them down so they couldn't get up again like the SLA in the 1970s US, so I doubt Peach could do the job at all with his "carebear" style of rebuilding. Besides, he doesn't even have the manpower to protect the civilians from Taliban threats. I am placing my bets on Afghanistan being the next Vietnam.
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2010-06-24, 12:20 | Link #7940 |
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to listen to allen west say it, the REASON why there is no end in sight, is because the people running the war are doing it without having a real clue about what it is they are trying to actually achieve
and because they fail to notice that their own rules of engagement are being abused by the enemy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhOzIQ1-CmQ don't get me wrong, i get the point of rules of engagement but if it gets to the point where they are actively ENCOURAGING your enemy to commit war crimes, then something is very wrong.
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