Fairy Tail Anime Episode Discussion Thread [Episode 165 and Onward]

[_Misfit]

Originally Posted by immblueversion

I very much like seeing these character cards. It seems they're the same translations as the official Kodansha manga version. As long as it means the English dub won't call a certain character "Keith", I am okay with this.

I hope they do. Keith was such a hilarious name!

[immblueversion]

Originally Posted by _Misfit

I hope they do. Keith was such a hilarious name!

I've said this multiple times here, but this sums up my thoughts on this whole situation perfectly.

And now that the anime has come this far, I pray someone will release an FT video with that audio dubbed over it.

[Gintokifan22]

Yah, Anime hinting at END finally! Natsu talking with the Atlus Flame was my favorite part of the episode

[AnimeFan188]

Originally Posted by Gintokifan22

Yah, Anime hinting at END finally! Natsu talking with the Atlus Flame was my favorite part of the episode

I spent much of this arc expecting Natsu to eat the sacred flame (or at least some of
it) to power up and beat the final boss (whoever/whatever that turned out to be).

Spoiler for Spoiler:

But that didn't happen. Nice change of pace.

[G147]

Originally Posted by AnimeFan188

I spent much of this arc expecting Natsu to eat the sacred flame (or at least some of
it) to power up and beat the final boss (whoever/whatever that turned out to be).

Spoiler for Spoiler:

But that didn't happen. Nice change of pace.

Not that there's a final boss for this mini arc.

[DmonHiro]

Well, I don't know about you guys, but that last ED(57) was quite... interesting.

[Stark700]

Even more buildup for this week's episode. My favorite part is probably Kyouka though from Tartaros. I suppose we will get introduction of the other members soon.

Ending with Natsu was priceless ha

[immblueversion]

Looks like "Kyouka, the Slave Star Angel" is actually "Kyoka, Goddess of the Slave Planet", just like Kodansha said. I'm guessing the anime will be using the rest of the official manga translations as well.

[ookamigirl]

Everyone is free now.
Flare accepted back with open arms.
Still.. new trouble is just around the corner.
The demons of Tartarus have officially arrived.
Warrod prepared a nice thank you feast along with some surprises.
Nice episode!

[G147]

Kyouka

[RPG_Fanatic]

Originally Posted by Stark700

Even more buildup for this week's episode. My favorite part is probably Kyouka though from Tartaros. I suppose we will get introduction of the other members soon.

Ending with Natsu was priceless ha

Poor Natsu, he opened the true gates of hell.

[MCAL]

I just notice, but the English in the name cards might be from Japanese version, as on the cards the guild is spelled Tartaros, while the Crunchy translation is spelled Tartarus

[immblueversion]

Originally Posted by MCAL

I just notice, but the English in the name cards might be from Japanese version, as on the cards the guild is spelled Tartaros, while the Crunchy translation is spelled Tartarus

Actually, the English is from the official Kodansha manga translation. Minerva's surname is spelled "Orland" instead of "Orlando", and the Sylph Labyrinth hammer guy is called "Rala" instead of "Lala". And while "Kyouka" is officially "Kyôka", her English card lists it as "Kyoka". However, her nickname "Reiseiten" definitely shares its English translation with Kodansha: "Goddess of the Slave Planet".

From the looks of things, Crunchyroll is basing its translations on the Fairy Tail Wiki, which seems to avoid using official names if they aren't sure they were provided by Mashima himself. When the manga was licensed by Del Rey, each volume had a note from Mashima saying all name spellings were provided by him. Now that this note no longer appears, the Wiki holds names up for vote, and if they don't like an official name, they use something else.

Anyway, here's what I think we can expect from names to be revealed this arc:

Spoiler for Character names:

Wiki names on the left, official names on the right:

"Sayla" / "Seilah"
"Tempesta" / "Tempester"
"Torafusa" / "Torafuzar"
"Keith" / "Keyes"
"Lamy" / "Lummy"

Everything else (Mard Geer, Jackal, Ezel, and Franmalth) is the same.

[Robotech Master]

So a brief glimpse of the girls bathing in the hot springs is fine, but having the Warrod conversation take place in the springs with the guys there and Natsu saying the girls' nudity is old news was crossing the line eh?

[immblueversion]

So, I've discovered something really exciting: according to Hiro Mashima's Volume 49 afterword in the manga, there were several parts from the Tartaros arc that were cut for various reasons. Because of this, the anime adaptation will actually be a director's cut of sorts, showing these "deleted scenes" that were meant to be in the manga in some way. I imagine it'll be much like Erigor's planned appearance in the Nirvana arc, or Gajeel's adventures and Faust's true identity in the Edolas arc. I learned about it here: http://thefairystales.tumblr.com/pos...e-tartarus-arc

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

Originally Posted by immblueversion

Actually, the English is from the official Kodansha manga translation. Minerva's surname is spelled "Orland" instead of "Orlando", and the Sylph Labyrinth hammer guy is called "Rala" instead of "Lala". And while "Kyouka" is officially "Kyôka", her English card lists it as "Kyoka". However, her nickname "Reiseiten" definitely shares its English translation with Kodansha: "Goddess of the Slave Planet".

From the looks of things, Crunchyroll is basing its translations on the Fairy Tail Wiki, which seems to avoid using official names if they aren't sure they were provided by Mashima himself. When the manga was licensed by Del Rey, each volume had a note from Mashima saying all name spellings were provided by him. Now that this note no longer appears, the Wiki holds names up for vote, and if they don't like an official name, they use something else.

Anyway, here's what I think we can expect from names to be revealed this arc:

Spoiler for Character names:

Wiki names on the left, official names on the right:

"Sayla" / "Seilah"
"Tempesta" / "Tempester"
"Torafusa" / "Torafuzar"
"Keith" / "Keyes"
"Lamy" / "Lummy"

Everything else (Mard Geer, Jackal, Ezel, and Franmalth) is the same.

the names are really disappointing but o well.

[_Misfit]

Originally Posted by immblueversion

So, I've discovered something really exciting: according to Hiro Mashima's Volume 49 afterword in the manga, there were several parts from the Tartaros arc that were cut for various reasons. Because of this, the anime adaptation will actually be a director's cut of sorts, showing these "deleted scenes" that were meant to be in the manga in some way. I imagine it'll be much like Erigor's planned appearance in the Nirvana arc, or Gajeel's adventures and Faust's true identity in the Edolas arc. I learned about it here: http://thefairystales.tumblr.com/pos...e-tartarus-arc

Well that's pretty cool. Assuming the stuff that's left out is interesting enough, then the anime adaptation could be the definitive edition of the Tartarus Arc. Although I'm pretty sure there will be some heavy censoring when certain scenes come up.

Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

the names are really disappointing but o well.

Keith 4 Lyfe

[immblueversion]

Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

the names are really disappointing but o well.

I believe "Torafusa" originated from a misreading of the kana; it was thought to be トラフサー (Torafusaa), when it was actually トラフザー (Torafuzaa). Not only that, but it's based on the word トラフザメ (torafuzame), which is Japanese for "zebra shark". Hence the Kodansha name "Torafuzar".

But to be honest, I really don't mind the fan spellings in this case...

Originally Posted by _Misfit

Keith 4 Lyfe

...except for that. The name honestly infuriates me not only because of how hilariously unfitting and ordinary it is, but mostly the Fairy Tail Wiki's justification for it. You see, there was a character from "Phoenix Priestess" named Geese (ギース Giisu) whose name was mentioned in the manga. However, the translator for Kodansha misread the Japanese name as キース (Kiisu), and thus his name became "Keith". This infuriated at least one of the admins at the FT Wiki, who decided to retaliate by giving the name "Keith" to a character whose Japanese name just so happened to be キース; in this case, one of the villains of the Tartaros arc.

And you know what happened when I proposed the Wiki change the name to "Keyes"? The majority said it sucked, even the ones who admitted that "Keith" also sucked, while others say it doesn't really match up with the Japanese pronunciation ("Keyes" reads like "keys", while the Japanese version is more like "keese"). But hey, not all English names match with their Japanese readings. I mean, "Hades" is always pronounced "HAY-deez" in English, not "HAH-dess". And it turns out that "Lamia" is actually supposed to be "LAY-mee-uh", not "LAH-mee-uh" (I looked it up in a dictionary).

So there you have it. But I suppose you can't expect all translations to be consistently great. There's one or two FT Wiki names I prefer over the official ones. But if one of the anime name cards actually reads "Keith", I suppose I'll just...give up the fight.

[_Misfit]

^ Its just funny, broski. No need to be upset at a name that won't even be used. You just gotta learn to have a sense of humor for things like this. A demon named Keith. I find that utterly hilarious.

[Kafriel]

Ah well, don't bother with the K-man...I wanted it to be |Keys| too, but it doesn't matter whichever way they go about it. I'll just /ignore the subs