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2013-05-30, 23:44 | Link #903 | ||
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Yes, a lot of gamers will probably bite the bullet. But all you need is 10 to 20% or so to say "No, I'm not putting up with this BS" and Microsoft may well feel the pinch. Quote:
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2013-05-30, 23:48 | Link #904 | |
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(The ACII DRM was far worse than what MS is going here, as the initial release the game would end your game immediately if you lost your internet connection. Without saving.)
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2013-05-30, 23:49 | Link #905 |
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What I mean is that, as I laid out, the XBO and its policies on games is that you buy physical copies of games but then the DRM on the games is strict and it is like they are treating game discs like digital purchases, and then furthermore, the XBO successor should not be like this because I expect the games to be sold digitally only. But they'll still have DRM. It is just that the nature of things will be different since the games are digital purchases.
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2013-05-30, 23:50 | Link #906 | ||
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If it's just some short check-in to get things up and running again, who's going to bother with the 24 hours thing? Quote:
People have been saying for several years now that physical media is going to die, but just look at the anime industry, where anime is selling as well on DVDs/Blu-Rays as it ever has.
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2013-05-31, 00:10 | Link #907 | ||
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And "free-to-play" cash MMO games have existed for decades. Do you honestly think it's a new trend? Do you know how old games like Maple Story are? Quote:
The PS3 however did not, as many others have already mentioned. The Wii also had its share of core games (Mario, Zelda, Smash Bros, etc), even if it lacked the third party support they had in the past. Just because you shelved it does not mean billions of others did. Lacking core games is an issue for the Wii U however, though that's a subject for another thread. |
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2013-05-31, 00:13 | Link #908 | |
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2) We know that there's some sort of mechanism to sell your games. 3) Hence, installations of games that have been sold need to be deactivated. That's almost certainly the story behind the 24 hour check in requirement.
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2013-05-31, 00:17 | Link #909 | |
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Microsoft has had more success in Americas and Europe than the rest of the world and at those places they did much better in places with constant internet. Microsoft is, though not outright saying it, abandoning everyone that isn't what they consider "core" and focusing on trying to keep and entice more people that fit their definition of "core". Those with constant internet fit "core" as they are more inclined to have more disposable income than those that don't. That and they're more successful with that crowd anyway. Globally Sony has done far better so it makes sense that Sony doesn't want to alienate anyone if they can, Microsoft is fine alienating everyone that isn't "core" as long as enough "core" buy into them instead of Sony or Nintendo or Apple or the such. The only thing they missed was the Military and Microsoft seems to already be working on a solution/exception for them. Course it will only take one of those in the military to hand the unlocked XBox One to a group of hackers for all hell to break loose rather quickly. If you're well off compared to the average person, have amazing 24/7 internet, and/or have a ton of disposable income than the XBox One's "restrictions" don't effect you all that much and you'll get your all in one system. |
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2013-05-31, 00:26 | Link #910 | |
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2013-05-31, 00:41 | Link #911 | |
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2013-05-31, 01:12 | Link #912 | |
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Sorry, but I don't find your position here all that compelling. I definitely don't think the 24 hour check-in is as benign as you are making it out to be.
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2013-05-31, 01:19 | Link #913 | |
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The requirement allows MS to access and control the Console daily. This is a big deal as it means no matter what you do with the console on your end, MS can reverse it. The only way you could stop it is by hacking it and render it offline forever. This in combination with the always-on mandatory camera and microphone, and you get the means for MS to get footage of your living room EVERY DAY. The only way to stop this is by unplugging the console from the power point.
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2013-05-31, 01:26 | Link #914 | |
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I'm really not sure what other purpose Microsoft would have for such a check in. (Edit: For those who suggest it's so the console can be used as a spy camera... Microsoft has said they won't be using Kinect for that purpose. Do I believe them? For the moment, yes - it would make a mockery of the "Google doesn't respect your privacy" message in some of their recent marketing if they didn't. If they change their minds, it'll be like Sony removing the ability to install Linux on your PS3 - they'll do it later once the console is established. And to be honest I don't think they have the guts to try it. It's not like the customer is never going to find out, given that the primary reason to get that data would be to sell it to marketters.)
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I mean, come on, does anybody here really think that the tech guys at Microsoft can't come up with more than just one way of ensuring this? I'm very confident that they could have come up with a way that would have met with less of a backlash than this 24 hour check-in thing. So, imo, the real reason for this 24 hour check-in is... Quote:
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And if Microsoft was so concerned about customer backlash they wouldn't be pulling half of what they're pulling anyway.
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2013-05-31, 02:49 | Link #918 | ||
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Furthermore, as I've point out earlier in this thread, it's well within Microsoft's technical ability to track every single thing you do on your computer. They don't. They collect certain data that's useful for product development, such as debugging info. What you're suggesting goes against company's track record on privacy. Annoying licensing practices, on the other hand, are completely consistent with Microsoft's track record.
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