[Game] Umineko - Spoilers, Theories, Interpretations

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Used Can

Spoiler:

What for? With Bern and Lambda gone, there's no need to play the game any more.

Pride, mostly.

Originally Posted by June 1983

Spoiler:

Ahhh ... but look: if anti-fantasy is correct and the culprit really is human, then that means even as master of the game board Battler won't be killing anyone. Right? Because even though Beato kept making herself out to be the culprit, if Battler is correct then in truth she didn't do any of that. Instead, either the pieces are moving on their own, or there is a hidden player.

Man, if the anime watchers can't grasp the idea that Battler can deny witches and still acknowledge Beatrice in Purgatorio, they're really going to love warlock!Battler.

True enough. It's the setup Beatrice creates, not the actual killings, from that perspective.

[Hareoic]

Originally Posted by Used Can

Spoiler:

What for? With Bern and Lambda gone, there's no need to play the game any more.

Not necessarily gone, just no longer able to interfere.

[Marion]

Originally Posted by June 1983

Spoiler:

Ahhh ... but look: if anti-fantasy is correct and the culprit really is human, then that means even as master of the game board Battler won't be killing anyone. Right? Because even though Beato kept making herself out to be the culprit, if Battler is correct then in truth she didn't do any of that. Instead, either the pieces are moving on their own, or there is a hidden player.

Man, if the anime watchers can't grasp the idea that Battler can deny witches and still acknowledge Beatrice in Purgatorio, they're really going to love warlock!Battler.

pfft forget that. I bet half of the anime watchers will drop this show by the time we get into EP 3 :|

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Marion

pfft forget that. I bet half of the anime watchers will drop this show by the time we get into EP 3 :|

Correction: By the time we finish Ep3.

[June 1983]

BTW, I've felt for awhile (and I'm sure I'm not the only one, Ep 4 certainly implied it heavily) that the ultimate goal of the chess game is to free Beatrice from being the culprit. In a way, defeating her is rescuing her, isn't it? If we anti-fantasy people agree that even though Beatrice isn't a witch, she exists in some form somehow (skirt!Beato), that means that in essence, she is either being framed or framing herself for some reason. It also means that once Battler denies her existence as a witch, it doesn't mean she really dies, because she's something other/more than a witch.

[Marion]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Correction: By the time we finish Ep3.

Hell no. EBeato will just make them all pissed...

...then again half of the anime viewers hate Maria, so maybe they'll love EBeato for killing her?

[Volcanic]

Oh, what is this:

Spoiler for EP5:

I'm sure it's shopped but lol.

[Marion]

It's not shopped. It's from the actual arc.nsa file in the game. Just an alternative sprite never used is all.

Still moe.

[Hareoic]

Originally Posted by Volcanic

Oh, what is this:

Spoiler for EP5:

I'm sure it's shopped but lol.

Nope, it shows up, you just have to click it constantly on the character screen until it does.

[Used Can]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Pride, mostly.

After checking the spoilers from this game, I do not think he'd do something for that kind of reason. All the same, I cannot deny that possibility.

Originally Posted by Hareoic

Not necessarily gone, just no longer able to interfere.

But why would they play a game in which they know they are nothing but tools? The whole idea behind this game was to amuse those two (Bern and Lamda). Continuing it would only further that.

Originally Posted by June 1983

If we anti-fantasy people agree that even though Beatrice isn't a witch, she exists in some form somehow (skirt!Beato), that means that in essence, she is either being framed or framing herself for some reason

Who knows? There's also the miracle Bern and Lambda were talking about, which they don't believe will happen.

[Volcanic]

Originally Posted by Marion

It's not shopped. It's from the actual arc.nsa file in the game. Just an alternative sprite never used is all.

Still moe.

FFFFFFT seriously?

Ryukishi, I hate you and love you at the same time

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Marion

Hell no. EBeato will just make them all pissed...

Oh come on, EBeato was awesome.

DROWN IN MY SEA OF GELATIN! HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Originally Posted by Volcanic

Oh, what is this:

Spoiler for EP5:

I'm sure it's shopped but lol.

Can't wait to see what they're like. I always loved the furniture.

[Volcanic]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Can't wait to see what they're like. I always loved the furniture.

It appears that Dlannor there is psycho, at least. Not sure about Gertrude and Cornelia though.

DROWN IN MY SEA OF GELATIN! HAHAHAHAHAHA!

I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE THAT ANIMATED.

Among other weird deaths...

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Volcanic

It appears that Dlannor there is psycho, at least. Not sure about Gertrude and Cornelia though.

Her surname appears to be "Knox".

...I hate Ryukishi sometimes...

Originally Posted by Volcanic

I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE THAT ANIMATED.

Among other weird deaths...

ME EITHER

DEEN had better be saving their budget for Ep3... it needs it what with all the magic-world-ness.

[Hareoic]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Her surname appears to be "Knox".

...I hate Ryukishi sometimes...

So I was right to assume that they're trying to end the game and are essentially bringing in the big guns to do so.

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Hareoic

So I was right to assume that they're trying to end the game and are essentially bringing in the big guns to do so.

If you bring in a furniture named after the guy who made up the rules of fair play for mysteries, yes, you're probably trying to end the game.

[Volcanic]

Originally Posted by Hareoic

So I was right to assume that they're trying to end the game and are essentially bringing in the big guns to do so.

Considering what the Siestas are named after, this might actually be LITERAL.

[Hareoic]

Originally Posted by Volcanic

Considering what the Siestas are named after, this might actually be LITERAL.

Spoiler for You have no idea:

Expect lots of explosions and budget breaking wars of red vs blue truth.

And an instance of yellow truth, I think. I don't know what that was.

[Tyabann]

...I think, regardless of Erika, I'm going to enjoy this game.

[Sterling01]

Originally Posted by Hareoic

Spoiler for You have no idea:

And an instance of yellow truth, I think. I don't know what that was.

Spoiler for Ep 5:

It's called golden truth and only GMs can use it