Tsuki ga Michibiku Isekai Douchuu (月が導く異世界道中) [WN]

[Hokoga]

Just read the new TL'ed chapter

“…I am happy about that, you know? But this and that are two different things, right? What part of me looks like a monster that makes people faint-desu ka?” (Mio)

This is the question from the damn near immortal truck sized black spider monster that went around crazily devouring everything in sight and who has been described as a calamity.

The me who has arachnophobia is just sitting here wondering: Is she serious?

[m4rc0s]

Originally Posted by Somethindarker

They're getting even more residents? That's awesome what races and how many, also what's the current number of resident, wasn't it a little under 400?

close to 16 races!
before this migration we are at close to 2k if i'm not mistaken , there is one month i have not read, since my last msg, i have been very busy so i'm not so sure about the numbers but let's answer the question!; after this migration the number goes up a lot, like double or triple the original number, they are building a new city at the shore; like Sea-side City; with villas/harbor and so on, the new races will take care of it.

Spoiler for spoiler:

Since makoto receives the sea from the gods, he asked tomoe to bring races who could explore/live in the sea, so they called 16 races, the most notable is :
the fish king race: upper body fish/lower body human, yes the same as the fish head meme and so on!
second: the mermaids, is a mermaids, there is no need to explain!.
third: a devils-sub race; as you have seen the devil lands are very rash, so some tribes have migrated to the sea to try to live, and after centuries this race was born by being adapted to the sea; the arrival and tests of this race was the first task that makoto have given to the devil princes, (the one who have forced a contract with him, and so on, i have forgot her name) and is also because of this race that she have firmed her "will" to serve makoto with everything she got; before she was still willing to serve him, but was decision made by her logical side so even if she gave her everything was because of her logical side said she will, not her emotional side, , this have changed because she understand that with her original plan, she would not be able to obtain 100% approval and the best end result; this seems strange for English speaker but at least makes sense for me when i'm reading ;

Spoiler for original plan:

(her original plan as you can read in the novel, was to put a colar in makoto, in the form of emotional link with her, so he could spare/help the devil in time of needs by his connection with her , now the plan changed to obtain a upper echelon rank in asora,because she is in fact smart and since she was mixed in the selection process she could understand that the ones who select in the end is not "makoto" but the entire upper echelon of asora; makoto have the final say of things(something that they forced him to do! because even this he does not want, he is very lazy),so normally he just go with the flow!, so if she can become one of the upper ranks, she could be part of the decision making, and in the end make her way to obtain refugee for the devils!. )

special case: that have received a little more screen time than the rest:
two races that there is only "one " person moving!
one is a very old entity, i do not remember the entire details of his race, but he seems to have liven for centuries already, and was tired of the old sea or something like that, so he choice to come because he could "explore" a complete new sea and also, it seems that he is fact "unique", because there is no more of his race anymore.
other one is a young water serpent/dragon girl !, i do not remember exactly her race but is something like yamata no orochi race, like multiple heads and so on, but she can turn human , she choice to come to asora because her race is a fighting race, mostly one of the strongest race on the sea and since she is a prodigy there is not many people who can fight against her, so she choice to come to asora to fight in the "asora's fighting club",
My personal comment: she already fucked up, because "asora's fighting club", is a "team fight event" to determine the hierarchy in asora; there is race leaderboard; and a individual mix race; both is acceptable, but the race one is most important because it determines the rank of the entire race in asora. and since she is alone, she is a very bad spot.
and of course: the author never made a arc focused on the entire event: we just have one or two glimpse of it in descriptions in the novel like the one before , i bet that i'm not the only one here waiting for a tournament arc in the novel for asora of course!, would be epic, and could bring us a lot information about the current events of asora, since asora is in very second plane from recent arcs.

and since i took the time to write this reply, i will write something more: after reading the previous msg about your discussion about the charm, it seems that you are having some misunderstand about how it work:
the charm itself, in good way to describe it is: the charm work as infection that have multiple effects but i will focus in the one we like to call "love" since it seems to be the focal point of the discussion, : you know that when a person fall in love, there is some type of chemical reaction in the brain, that release multiple substances and this is what we call love!; and the charm does exactly that; the charm makes the brain release those substances so they "think" they are in love; but in reality is more similar as drug-like state, where they can not go against him!,really anything; killing himself; walk naked; killing their father; their husband /lover/child and so on.
So going back to the entire love/rape thing: by the current definition of the law: if you drug someone to slept with them even if those drugs "only" make them produce some feelings of acceptance to you like for example:BEER: i mean even giving them enough beer so they can not resist, and so on is classified as rape, ; and because of that he is fact a rapist; is just that his drug is far more advanced than something we have so far in our world.
and this is not the only thing tomoki have done: he have in many other things: kidnapped/stolen woman; used charm in them;so is nothing different like kidnapping someone and using some type of drug so they can not resist!
the only woman who slept with him, and was not rape; was lily, and she was a V as well.

[Somethindarker]

Originally Posted by m4rc0s

close to 16 races!
before this migration we are at close to 2k if i'm not mistaken , there is one month i have not read, since my last msg, i have been very busy so i'm not so sure about the numbers but let's answer the question!; after this migration the number goes up a lot, like double or triple the original number, they are building a new city at the shore; like Sea-side City; with villas/harbor and so on, the new races will take care of it.

Spoiler for spoiler:

Since makoto receives the sea from the gods, he asked tomoe to bring races who could explore/live in the sea, so they called 16 races, the most notable is :
the fish king race: upper body fish/lower body human, yes the same as the fish head meme and so on!
second: the mermaids, is a mermaids, there is no need to explain!.
third: a devils-sub race; as you have seen the devil lands are very rash, so some tribes have migrated to the sea to try to live, and after centuries this race was born by being adapted to the sea; the arrival and tests of this race was the first task that makoto have given to the devil princes, (the one who have forced a contract with him, and so on, i have forgot her name) and is also because of this race that she have firmed her "will" to serve makoto with everything she got; before she was still willing to serve him, but was decision made by her logical side so even if she gave her everything was because of her logical side said she will, not her emotional side, , this have changed because she understand that with her original plan, she would not be able to obtain 100% approval and the best end result; this seems strange for English speaker but at least makes sense for me when i'm reading ;

Spoiler for original plan:

(her original plan as you can read in the novel, was to put a colar in makoto, in the form of emotional link with her, so he could spare/help the devil in time of needs by his connection with her , now the plan changed to obtain a upper echelon rank in asora,because she is in fact smart and since she was mixed in the selection process she could understand that the ones who select in the end is not "makoto" but the entire upper echelon of asora; makoto have the final say of things(something that they forced him to do! because even this he does not want, he is very lazy),so normally he just go with the flow!, so if she can become one of the upper ranks, she could be part of the decision making, and in the end make her way to obtain refugee for the devils!. )

special case: that have received a little more screen time than the rest:
two races that there is only "one " person moving!
one is a very old entity, i do not remember the entire details of his race, but he seems to have liven for centuries already, and was tired of the old sea or something like that, so he choice to come because he could "explore" a complete new sea and also, it seems that he is fact "unique", because there is no more of his race anymore.
other one is a young water serpent/dragon girl !, i do not remember exactly her race but is something like yamata no orochi race, like multiple heads and so on, but she can turn human , she choice to come to asora because her race is a fighting race, mostly one of the strongest race on the sea and since she is a prodigy there is not many people who can fight against her, so she choice to come to asora to fight in the "asora's fighting club",
My personal comment: she already fucked up, because "asora's fighting club", is a "team fight event" to determine the hierarchy in asora; there is race leaderboard; and a individual mix race; both is acceptable, but the race one is most important because it determines the rank of the entire race in asora. and since she is alone, she is a very bad spot.
and of course: the author never made a arc focused on the entire event: we just have one or two glimpse of it in descriptions in the novel like the one before , i bet that i'm not the only one here waiting for a tournament arc in the novel for asora of course!, would be epic, and could bring us a lot information about the current events of asora, since asora is in very second plane from recent arcs.

and since i took the time to write this reply, i will write something more: after reading the previous msg about your discussion about the charm, it seems that you are having some misunderstand about how it work:
the charm itself, in good way to describe it is: the charm work as infection that have multiple effects but i will focus in the one we like to call "love" since it seems to be the focal point of the discussion, : you know that when a person fall in love, there is some type of chemical reaction in the brain, that release multiple substances and this is what we call love!; and the charm does exactly that; the charm makes the brain release those substances so they "think" they are in love; but in reality is more similar as drug-like state, where they can not go against him!,really anything; killing himself; walk naked; killing their father; their husband /lover/child and so on.
So going back to the entire love/rape thing: by the current definition of the law: if you drug someone to slept with them even if those drugs "only" make them produce some feelings of acceptance to you like for example:BEER: i mean even giving them enough beer so they can not resist, and so on is classified as rape, ; and because of that he is fact a rapist; is just that his drug is far more advanced than something we have so far in our world.
and this is not the only thing tomoki have done: he have in many other things: kidnapped/stolen woman; used charm in them;so is nothing different like kidnapping someone and using some type of drug so they can not resist!
the only woman who slept with him, and was not rape; was lily, and she was a V as well.

Thanks for the info M4rc0s, I really appreciate you taking the time to type all this down.

As for the new chapter... I dunno I'm not liking Hibiki that much anymore nor her teammate Chiya. She's loyal and brave sure but come on it's come one it's common sense to leave one alive, she's also threatened by a company who really doesn't give a shit about politics or race. Lime is a total badass now if a little too... cool, the way he kept up with her and was calmly analyzing the scenario was awesome good to see he's progressed. Wish he would've acted a little more self serving by digging for more info on Hibiki and Chiya, liked that little flag he raised with her though. Go get her you dog.

[Hiro Hayase]

187 is out! Just a gossip chapter tho.

Lime Latte. Never noticed it before from the machine translation. It's just like Pino Co Lada and her knights being named after drinks from Gate. Btw that Lime and Hibiki ship is short-lived, you have been warned.

…A large tree that raises up a forest. Also…a dragon and welcoming rain.” (Chiya)

Chiya suddenly mutters this with distant eyes as she looks at Lime.

“…Ah?” (Lime)

“Chiya-chan?” (Hibiki)

“A person that gives a lot of peace of mind…” (Chiya)

And this is where the theory where Lime is on the verge of acquiring Tomoe's dragon blessing comes from or he already acquired it and that it has yet to manifest. Unlike Root and Grount, Tomoe seems to prefer nurturing talents herself by testing Lime in various ways along the way.

About that new power... she probably saw the demons true forms by coincidence and the demon spies panicked into attacking her.

Spoiler for What Chiya sees when looking at Makoto with mind's eye:

It has already been said in the forums, but she sees a somewhat of a sinister looking suit of armor with one hand holding an imposing bow and another hand holding three chains (one connected to Mio, etc). After looking closer she sees cracks in the suit of armor and countless monsters trying to get out. It's a really impressionable scene and it also shows how Mio is capable of schemes leading up to the event.

@Somethindarker I agree that she should have kept someone alive to get information. It just goes to show that Hibiki can get emotional when her important people are endangered like that. Well from her perspective, that company is ominous and she still has not connected Makoto = Devil in her head at that point. Hibiki and Makoto's friendly spar is something to look forward to. Sometimes when Makoto tries to be humble, he just indirectly insults the other party or vexes them completely ahaha.

[Sparteh]

Originally Posted by Hiro Hayase

Spoiler for What Chiya sees when looking at Makoto with mind's eye:

It has already been said in the forums, but she sees a somewhat of a sinister looking suit of armor with one hand holding an imposing bow and another hand holding three chains (one connected to Mio, etc). After looking closer she sees cracks in the suit of armor and countless monsters trying to get out. It's a really impressionable scene and it also shows how Mio is capable of schemes leading up to the event.

@Somethindarker I agree that she should have kept someone alive to get information. It just goes to show that Hibiki can get emotional when her important people are endangered like that. Well from her perspective, that company is ominous and she still has not connected Makoto = Devil in her head at that point. Hibiki and Makoto's friendly spar is something to look forward to. Sometimes when Makoto tries to be humble, he just indirectly insults the other party or vexes them completely ahaha.

I really wish to see that armor crumbling and whatever is inside becoming free...


Anyway, how many chapters till that spar?

[m4rc0s]

Originally Posted by Hiro Hayase

About that new power... she probably saw the demons true forms by coincidence and the demon spies panicked into attacking her.

for me the entire attack seems to be a truly assassinate plot not a accident, not even close, for multiple reasons!
1:the guards who was/is a devil is not chiya guards nor anything like that; it could have more without doubt, but there is no reason to put them as temple guards, when chiya was in fact fighting in the war; and if they tried to infiltrate/replace the old guards when chiya came to visit, would be too forced for spies, and not something that Rona as chief of that department would do, she does a very nice job!
2:, chiya is very powerful and a risk for the devils, and since the entire war started she was always with Hibiki; that is even worse treat to them; that time in the temple when she was learning the new ability was the only time she was "alone" for enough time since the war started; so it makes the perfect place to assassinate her; or at least try!
3:the entire situation seems too elaborate for the attack to be a accident , like any other devil attacks, something that if it was "accident" is was just too forced, the devils are doing a very fine job with their attacks and for me is impossible for them to fail at something so crude as forgetting that chiya is going to learn this spell, since the guards who transformed in devil is already at very upper echelons of the entire alliance, after all they are guarding the emissary itself in his visit to other state;so they are in par with inside information like that and other; like the time required for the spell; that Hibiki would be visiting the city in the mean time; and that it needs multiple hours for her to learn the spell , giving enough time to prepare everything!

at least for me: the entire situation screams; plan to assassinate Chiya; not accident!; the entire accident that i can grasp in their plot is Lime, he just made a perfect duo with hibiki after a random encounter in the city , that allowed her to become even stronger and reach them faster and stop the plan!

Originally Posted by Hiro Hayase

Spoiler for What Chiya sees when looking at Makoto with mind's eye:

It has already been said in the forums, but she sees a somewhat of a sinister looking suit of armor with one hand holding an imposing bow and another hand holding three chains (one connected to Mio, etc). After looking closer she sees cracks in the suit of armor and countless monsters trying to get out. It's a really impressionable scene and it also shows how Mio is capable of schemes leading up to the event.

Like i have wrote before; kudos for Mio, the entire limia arc was planned from day 0 by Mio, events; visits; and so on, this is why i have wrote some praising words for her before; she really have grown since the start of novel.
where tomoe; since day one was very responsible; and now the author is giving screen time to her being silly, like the one time when she could not become "japanese", and so on.

i like this contrast; that the author is doing; showing us a new side from Mio; a smart; manipulative side and with tomoe: showing the silly girl side who just want to be pampered as well!

[evilgenius]

does lime become a traitor?

[kazzuya]

I wonder what the strongest race in Asora is?
Even the eldwas are a contender with their numerous weapons and gundams.

[Hiro Hayase]

Originally Posted by Sparteh

I really wish to see that armor crumbling and whatever is inside becoming free...

Anyway, how many chapters till that spar?

It happens during the Limia visit around the early 200s. A lot of events happen during that time.

@m4rc0s

Ah right that training period is a splendid opportunity to kill her when she is separated from the party members. Then that also brings into question if Hibiki's other two party members were intentionally taken out early to make the plan a success. Thus, leaving only Hibiki who could be obstructed by monsters. Although, wildcard Lime interfered with their plans.

If Hibiki can overcome her prejudices and does join Asora theoretically speaking, she would probably be like Sari and aim for a higher position so she could migrate the hyumans.

[VooXoo]

The attack on the priestess was planned, too well organized, but from Lime says it seems like the demon spies used it before the planned time, they had most things ready and after the priestess awakened the mind eye were forced to speed things up and it was insufficent to kill her.
She doesn't see the subject without possible illusionary spells but the "soul" of it, Lime is a normal hyuman after all, he is close to getting a dragon blessing but still "clean", is possible after she described how a spy looked in her eyes they had the time to decide if escape or kill her and gone with the second, as she doesn't see the true form but the soul it takes time to "translate" it.
After all if they knew she would get that skill they would have hid themselves, killer her before or slow/stop the whole thing, is even possible they knew but were sure it wouldn't pass through their magic, even Rona, after Makoto unmasked her, acted the part until his complete description of her.

[m4rc0s]

Originally Posted by Hiro Hayase

It happens during the Limia visit around the early 200s. A lot of events happen during that time.

@m4rc0s

Ah right that training period is a splendid opportunity to kill her when she is separated from the party members. Then that also brings into question if Hibiki's other two party members were intentionally taken out early to make the plan a success. Thus, leaving only Hibiki who could be obstructed by monsters. Although, wildcard Lime interfered with their plans.
.

Yeah; about both of them, my memory is really fuzzy and i do not seem to recall where they are, but i think they are simple at the city as well, with hibiki as i recall because the conversation between hibiki x lime where they are talking about the prince and lime impressions of it implies that they have encounter each other at that time before parting ways with Hibiki! but once hibiki have found lime, they parted away as request by hibiki, so at the time that the shit was down, there was only lime with Hibiki.

Originally Posted by Hiro Hayase

If Hibiki can overcome her prejudices and does join Asora theoretically speaking, she would probably be like Sari and aim for a higher position so she could migrate the hyumans.

about Hibiki; she is already dead set on joining makoto , of course only after she got her revenge; i gave a very complete summary about her situation in some of my previous msg but if you already read the Limia arc you already know about it!
but if anyone want to read; just check my previous msg :about a few weeks ago when reigokai came back, i'm just so busy that i have not read more than 2 chapter since that time, but still the spoiler is complete i believe, anyone can check it out!.
Tlr on hibiki situation is: Io; she can not forgive him anymore so once he is down, she is all set to join makoto; the only problem she have after that is that she already recognize the fact that once she kills IO she may be just so deep in the revenge path, that she joining him would cause more problems than solution; so she is afraid to go with it!, but at least the resolution to accept him is already there.

Originally Posted by VooXoo

The attack on the priestess was planned, too well organized, but from Lime says it seems like the demon spies used it before the planned time, they had most things ready and after the priestess awakened the mind eye were forced to speed things up and it was insufficent to kill her.

Yeah; like i have wrote, the entire situation could be seen as rushed because finally Chiya became alone for enough time for them to act because since the war started she was with Hibiki 24/7, so once they got the surprise opportunity, they had to act!
also let's all remember, she is only there at loreal for one reason: Shiki: Shiki was the one who told them to go back to loreal as per makoto request, so even her visit was surprise for everyone.
Since makoto was afraid of encountering HIbiki and have his cover blow up; but everything back fired since she choice to pay a visit to the firm anyway before moving to loreal, haha!
But in the end, they are loreal because of Shiki, and this gave the opportunity for them to act on her!

[Darius Drake]

Originally Posted by Hiro Hayase

Spoiler for What Chiya sees when looking at Makoto with mind's eye:

It has already been said in the forums, but she sees a somewhat of a sinister looking suit of armor with one hand holding an imposing bow and another hand holding three chains (one connected to Mio, etc). After looking closer she sees cracks in the suit of armor and countless monsters trying to get out. It's a really impressionable scene and it also shows how Mio is capable of schemes leading up to the event.

Spoiler for I thought previous spoilers said...:

I thought that previous spoilers said it was elegant, shining armor which was cracked and had an army of monsters trying to get out.

[Hiro Hayase]

Originally Posted by Darius Drake

Spoiler for I thought previous spoilers said...:

I thought that previous spoilers said it was elegant, shining armor which was cracked and had an army of monsters trying to get out.

I really didn't get an elegant impression from reading the raws, but more of a menacing and foreboding presence. I also imagined it looking similar to Makoto's magic armor. Well it could also be elegant to the extent that it was menacing with its grand appearance and I misinterpreted that.

@m4rc0s

Hibiki might do a 180 after seeing Asora, but knowing IO's personality he might just end up fighting her in a final showdown when at the end of his life. At the moment he is training soldiers instead of being on the front-lines due to taking that suicide power drug. He's the type that would rather go down fighting than just wait for his death naturally. A hardcore battle maniac that likes fighting everything, except Makoto.

What I am anticipating in the future is if Makoto can impart a blessing of some sort to his followers and if that way some recipients can take more human like forms.

[Darius Drake]

Originally Posted by Hiro Hayase

I really didn't get an elegant impression from reading the raws, but more of a menacing and foreboding presence. I also imagined it looking similar to Makoto's magic armor. Well it could also be elegant to the extent that it was menacing with its grand appearance and I misinterpreted that.

The way I remember what a previous spoiler said (note, I haven't read the raws for this), I was under the impression that the armor represented the "Knight In Shining Armour" stereotype as Makoto's normal or outward personality, but the cracks showed both what he could or would become should Makoto have an emotional breakdown, and the fact that he is in danger of having that emotional breakdown.

But that's just my interpretation of someone else's reading.

[m4rc0s]

Originally Posted by Darius Drake

The way I remember what a previous spoiler said (note, I haven't read the raws for this), I was under the impression that the armor represented the "Knight In Shining Armour" stereotype as Makoto's normal or outward personality, but the cracks showed both what he could or would become should Makoto have an emotional breakdown, and the fact that he is in danger of having that emotional breakdown.

But that's just my interpretation of someone else's reading.

As someone who have read the raw, and probably the one who posted the spoiler that you are talking about, i could not offer better words than the one you have use!
the entire metaphor and explanation that you have write, fits perfect about my impression and pos analyze of the armor image!

As side note my two cents about the other interpretation : a armor so well made and elegant like that, could be seen as sinister in the eyes of chiya without doubt, since we are talking here about something that really shows how powerful he is , and power alone , even more in the hands of a possible enemy like makoto is to chiya because this is the image that Hibiki have been passing at that time in the history; is sinister enough in the eyes of a little girl, after all chiya does not even have 15 as i recall, but something can be sinister and beautiful after all, because if i had to cite the entire process of Chiya vision when she started to look at makoto at first : she lost herself admiring of how beautiful and elegant the armor is ,after that she remembered what Hibiki asked from her, and so she focused on the details and found the crack so it went from :
so beautiful and elegant ; that she lost herself seeing the armor-bow >>>> !Hey; i can not be admiring the armor-bow(vision), i need to do what was asked from me>>> See the crack>>>> start screaming and faint.


So for me, both version is correct; the armor is elegant without doubt; this have been given by the description of the armor if we analyze the dialogue in a neutral form since the armor resembles a lot his magic armor but with a lot more details and as someone who have the LN images now,we can agree that his magical armor is something elegant without doubt and not at all "sinister" , but once we take chiya perspective in the history and her personal emotions to the scene, the same armor is a proof of fear for her and by that sinister enough, even more after she have seen what is inside the cracks! and this is why she have fainted and this is also her final saying about his image as i recall, when talking to hibiki!

[The One Above God]

^Well, somebody's gonna be having mental breakdowns once the Magic Armor's stealth mode is removed .

[testeottilio]

Do any of you know where I can find them as pictures of the volumes?

[Corvo269]

Originally Posted by testeottilio

Do any of you know where I can find them as pictures of the volumes?

Prtty sure the social groups under community page here usually have albums dedicated to the LN images. In most cases. I can't be sure since I only joined shield hero's group

[Morilinde]

I get the feeling the last two chapters were meant to showcase just how important Shiki is for Makoto (in contrast to his third dream) If Makoto would only have Mio by his side during his visit in the demon's teritory it would have been a dplomatic disaster since Mio seems to have polished her 'trolling' ability and Lucia seems to be really easy to provoke.

[J4n1]

Pheonix.
The bird that cooks itself...
Mio is definitely the best girl.