Heavy Object - Old Anime Discussion Thread

[Haak]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Speaking from an overview, they're probably doing what any superpower would be doing- which is extending their influence and acquiring resources by gaining territories.

What separates the four of them from one another is how each of them runs their show. This is something that is as obvious as their namesake.

Our protagonists are with the Legitimacy Kingdom.

I get your point but for all I know, the other countries could be called Arsehole Kingdom and Douchebag Kingdom so that's not gonna mean a whole lot to me. Maybe I just wasn't paying but I seriously don't recall any names for any of the sides so it must have been a real "blink and you'll miss it" moment.

In any case, I hail from a country called the United Kingdom, so you'll have to excuse me for missing the relevancy of a country's name to its actual state of affairs. Last time I checked, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea wasn't exactly holding up to its namesake either. XP

[thundrakkon]

The first episode was ok for exposition purposes. The only part that felt jarring for me was the end, when they went from the BBQ to some sort of battle. That was a bit confusing, so, hopefully, they might explain it in the second episode.

This looks like it will fill the season that Gate left. If this is truly 24 episodes, then it's most likely split cour, since Gate will return in January. For now, I only see 12 episodes listed, with the last showing on December 18 as scheduled.

There will be no 3-5 episodes rule for me on this one. I'm definitely watching until the end.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Well if we ever get a sub forum we can go into the nitty gritty of Object technology.

The world could use another "uncomplicated" real mecha series.

Originally Posted by Haak

I get your point but for all I know, the other countries could be called Arsehole Kingdom and Douchebag Kingdom so that's not gonna mean a whole lot to me. Maybe I just wasn't paying but I seriously don't recall any names for any of the sides so it must have been a real "blink and you'll miss it" moment.

In any case, I hail from a country called the United Kingdom, so you'll have to excuse me for missing the relevancy of a country's name to its actual state of affairs. Last time I checked, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea wasn't exactly holding up to its namesake either. XP

I'm trying to say that my hands are tied atm because this is technically spoiler talks lol

[Haak]

Well for what's it's worth, I did understand that their country was based on some sort of aristocracy based on the deer hunting dingus' background talk.

[FlareKnight]

Originally Posted by bakato

The whole setting with the different superpowers requires quite a bit of chewing. But if say an Object was created and demonstrated its dominance against a coalition of 14 nations and a nuke, is it such a big hurdle to think the world would have followed in its footsteps?

Yeah, I think in that case it'd make sense that every country that could rush to assemble those things would. That was one of the first models made and it just crushed that army without much trouble. Planes? Bye. Ships? Sunk. Nukes? Not effective enough.

Military arms race is nothing unusual. A new piece of tech makes a big enough impression and everyone will want one.

[HighGuard]

This is everything I wanted from a heavy object anime. Leaving off at the loss of the baby magnum was an awsome stop point. I was squealing at the prologue as it was just so complete from what I recall in the light novel

Originally Posted by Haak

I get your point but for all I know, the other countries could be called Arsehole Kingdom and Douchebag Kingdom so that's not gonna mean a whole lot to me. Maybe I just wasn't paying but I seriously don't recall any names for any of the sides so it must have been a real "blink and you'll miss it" moment.

The other countries names are nothing like the Legitimacy Kingdom. Each one is different and unique in their own way from each other, they each have their own, lets say specialty/ideology/position of ruling from. They stick in your mind

[Shlugo]

I love how much though seemingly went into creating the setting and considering what would be the repercussions of having such an overwhelmingly powerful weapon that renders all other forms of military obsolete.

I really like the main characters. The hero has really great dynamic with his buddy, with whom they are this kind of base troublemakers -, the Princess - who seems a nice, and well adjusted mecha pilot, that actually gets along with the hero - and even with their commanding officer - who is this type that seems strict at first sight, but actually has a soft spot for them and looks through the fingers at their escapades.

The episode did a good job building up their life at the base and realities of both the war at large and their daily life, only to at a wham note with the devastating attack of enemy OBJECT.

I have to say, I'm instantly charmed by this series, and I can't wait for the next episode.

[Arze]

it was entertaining, especially the setting, it reminds me a lot of Mortal Engines by Philip Reeve.

As for the episode, had too much exposition for my taste, I´m fine when it's the narrator, but it was a bit sloppy in using the characters to continue delivering even more exposition.
I won't mind not knowing a lot about the Object in the first episode if I could get a bit more characterization instead.

[bakato]

Originally Posted by Arze

it was entertaining, especially the setting, it reminds me a lot of Mortal Engines by Philip Reeve.

As for the episode, had too much exposition for my taste, I´m fine when it's the narrator, but it was a bit sloppy in using the characters to continue delivering even more exposition.
I won't mind not knowing a lot about the Object in the first episode if I could get a bit more characterization instead.

You're gonna have to get used to that. That's actually what Quenser's (I am not gonna call him Quenther) thinking. He's a bit of a nerd.

[Arze]

Originally Posted by bakato

You're ganna have to get used to that. That's actually what Quenser's (I am not gonna call him Quenther) thinking. He's a bit of a nerd.

What I said is mostly a nitpick, while I felt it could have been done better it doesn't stop me from enjoying the show.

[dmaxzero]

Liked it. Loved the Opening.
This one I have no idea about anything. Hope I will be surprised in a good way.

[ACertainStark]

Really enjoyed that first episode. They more or less had the most important info presented in an interesting way. The prologue was done nicely. The characters were portrayed as expected, too.

That hangar scene was even more hilarious in the anime. Quenser is great. Looking forward to seeing the next episode for quite a few things.

[dniv]

Originally Posted by Haak

Episode 1

All throughout the episode I kept thinking that it had that very "Light Novel feel" of always trying hard to be different and sure enough I look it up afterwards and it's another Light Novel adaptation. XP

It wasn't a bad episode mind you but I'm hesitant to say it was good. The episode spent a considerable amount of time world building and it was definitely interesting but somehow managed to miss a rather important piece: what side the protagonists are on, who they're fighting against and why. And focus on the world building meant there wasn't much time to establish the characters seriously. Instead they left it up to some very stale comedy in a vain attempt to give them some charm but if anything it had the opposite effect: the belt scene made me want to punch the MC in the face.

Verdict: Three episode rule.

Yeah, it's a LN lol.

It was slow on purpose.

Pretty sure all of your questions will be answered soon.

If you're doing the three episode rule, then you should probably be satisfied by the end of the third episode (given the perceived pacing based on the episode titles).

That aside.

That was a very solid first episode adaptation of one of Kamachi's works. That felt rather gratifying.

If I had one complaint it would have been that completely gratuitous shower scene. Lol, but I guess it wasn't that bad, since the staff probably had to compromise to put that in, in order to decide that it was okay to give so much exposition in the episode.

I feel like Quenser was correctly shown as a bit of doofus (or maybe rather as inexperienced) when it comes to handling life/death matters with that emergency parachute scene.

Either way, fanservice or lack therefore aside, the plot is there, and the pacing is good, and the adaptation seems strong in this one. So since I actually don't mind fanservice except for when I am watching something in front of others or for when I try to show other people something, this is probably going to be amazing (just like the novels).

[FlareKnight]

Originally Posted by dniv

Yeah, it's a LN lol.

It was slow on purpose.

Pretty sure all of your questions will be answered soon.

If you're doing the three episode rule, then you should probably be satisfied by the end of the third episode (given the perceived pacing based on the episode titles).

That aside.

That was a very solid first episode adaptation of one of Kamachi's works. That felt rather gratifying.

If I had one complaint it would have been that completely gratuitous shower scene. Lol, but I guess it wasn't that bad, since the staff probably had to compromise to put that in, in order to decide that it was okay to give so much exposition in the episode.

I feel like Quenser was correctly shown as a bit of doofus (or maybe rather as inexperienced) when it comes to handling life/death matters with that emergency parachute scene.

Either way, fanservice or lack therefore aside, the plot is there, and the pacing is good, and the adaptation seems strong in this one. So since I actually don't mind fanservice except for when I am watching something in front of others or for when I try to show other people something, this is probably going to be amazing (just like the novels).

I would say it definitely showed the guy to be a doofus on that note. "Look you may die while I'm having my own crisis here, but know you will die without me invading your personal space and touching your breasts..." Thank god she has better reactions than he does and got herself out of that mess. Guy would have been doubly responsible for both causing the accident and failing to actually help her.

The plot side of the episode was good. Got a good understanding of the world situation and how the Objects have really changed things.

[Blueknight78]

Man that series really look promissor I will give a good try into it

[OH&S]

I finally watched the episode and all I can say is: I totally get why the first episode got a mixed reception. Its difficult to say that anything remarkable happened. Quite literally it was an introduction episode.

The gist is pretty simple:
*These are Objects and they've totally changed how wars have operated; i.e. the Object is quite literally the only thing that matters.
*Here's our protagonists and their reasons for being on base.
*Here's the rest of the characters.
*Here's some fanservice to stop you from getting bored.
*Life's pretty calm and uneventful when someone else is doing the fighting.
*'Oh Shit' moment right at the end.

Its because the Oh shit moment only happened at the end that the reception of the characters and episode has been mixed. It can't be helped. Nothing else happened.

Hopefully, Episode 2 can change things up as Quenser/Qwenthur and Heivia/Havia start adapting to the battlefield that they are left in. And the eventual David vs Goliath moment where they work together to take down the enemy Object.

Animation and colours are a bit flat but JC Staff is JC Staff.

Also, I quite enjoyed the OP song. At least there's confirmation that we're adapting til the end of Volume 2. The question is: Are we doing it in one cour? Is it going to be split cour?

[Marcus H.]

I get your point but for all I know, the other countries could be called Arsehole Kingdom and Douchebag Kingdom so that's not gonna mean a whole lot to me. Maybe I just wasn't paying but I seriously don't recall any names for any of the sides so it must have been a real "blink and you'll miss it" moment.

There's a reason why it's called "Legitimacy Kingdom", keyword legitimacy.
You have to show your legitimacy as part of the kingdom. For Quenser, it's working hard to earn money. For Heivia, it's earning military recognition to get his inheritance.
Basically, the Legitimacy Kingdom is "work hard, earn hard".

So first nuke melted half of the body, why not launch a second one? nuke is far far far more cost effective than building those huge ass Object, also if normal missile is useless why not just build those laser cannon onto of tank or ships?

A navy launched the first nuke. They are in the ocean. Guess what happens next.

THe first thing I saw with those Objects, I was thinking it's SO IMPRACTICAL.

And no one bats an eye when they released the designs for Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans. I mean Christ, look at that waist.

[bakato]

Originally Posted by Marcus H.

There's a reason why it's called "Legitimacy Kingdom", keyword legitimacy.
You have to show your legitimacy as part of the kingdom. For Quenser, it's working hard to earn money. For Heivia, it's earning military recognition to get his inheritance.
Basically, the Legitimacy Kingdom is "work hard, earn hard".

Uhhhhhh. No.

[madmanthan21]

Legitimacy kingdom is hardly legitimate.....

[FlareKnight]

Suppose I'm curious how conflicts will be handled. A lot of talk about David vs Goliath, but does that mean that Milinda will be less involved in things? From the OP I got an impression it would be that they need Qwenthur and Havia to even the playing field because the first generation can't measure up in a fight where the specialist type can fight in its element. Was kind of guessing the key would be the main duo finding ways to limit and weaken the other Object.

But then of course their Object blew up before the OP so....who knows.