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Sleep beneath the flowers
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Though I remember some long, long thread about DRW being an awful 51-point talent since Gargoyle does more DPS then it. Quote:
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Rage of Rivendare is deeper into Unholy though. I can't get that far in with my Death Knight since she's deep enough into Blood to get "Veteran of Third War". Why? 1. It's cool. I mean. Look at that name! 2. RP gimmick
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2008-12-15, 11:35 | Link #1862 | ||
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Anub'Rhekan, you have to get in and out of range, watch for crypt guards, watch for scarab spawns, and of course... the Locust Swarm. Faerlina, control DPS on the adds, make sure AMF stays on the add-tank to help the healers, run after Fearlina. Maexxna, spider adds, people on the walls, don't stand in front of her. And that's just the spider wing. Ah. Well, if that's your choice, that's your choice. |
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2008-12-15, 11:44 | Link #1863 | ||
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Seven DRW beating you!? How could you even live that long? The thing has crit people for like 1,000's or more.
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2008-12-15, 11:48 | Link #1864 | |
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2008-12-15, 12:02 | Link #1865 | ||
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"I didn't hit it that hard!" Moment? Quote:
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2008-12-15, 12:29 | Link #1866 |
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More like an '...okay, what just happened?' moment.
The guy just finished a fight, had some runic power remaining, downed one of his DK potions, charged at me me with full health and near full Runic Power, summoned his Runic weapon... Then a whole row of Rune Weapons appeared, charged at him, and he fell to the ground. Dead. That kinda makes you go "uhh, okay...." |
2008-12-15, 12:30 | Link #1867 | |
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2008-12-15, 12:30 | Link #1868 | ||
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Blood Caked Blade is better than you give it credit for. In my last 25 man Naxx it was 2% of my total dps, about the same as Blood Boil, Plague Strike, and Pestilence. When just looking at boss dps, it's 3% of my dps. Concerning AMZ. I don't tank atm. Normal AMS does a good job of negating whatever magic damage I might run across. There's always IBF as well. Concerning Unholy Aura. Movement speed is great. Sure, it may not be necessary but having the raid move out of fires faster and move back within dps range faster is always a plus in my book. This allows them to enchant their boots with a pure dps enchant as well. Additionally, I'm in blood presence. Blood may be the only spec that could benefit from being in Unholy presence, but I don't think enough testing has been done to confirm that. Concerning Desecration. Nice enough talent when you're not moving. Which isn't enough to justify the points. That damn graphic is annoying as heck too. Concerning Subversion and DnD. Maybe. All I know is that I use DnD almost all the time lol. DnD is so good. Even with pug tanks, I usually don't have a problem. If I do, I'll adjust accordingly, but hey, there's always IBF (till they nerf it). I like Unholy and spreading Ebon Plague is great. My only beef atm is the survivability of the Ghoul and Garg. Would like to give Blood a go, but the other DK in my guild is currently DW spec, and it doesn't seem like he'll be switching to Unholy anytime soon.
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2008-12-15, 13:13 | Link #1869 |
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I don't tank either, but the Zone is very nifty in helping the healers keep tanks alive. In a situation where a tank suffers magic damage, but can remain stationary, like Faerlina, I usually run over to the tank holding off the adds, drop an AMF, rush back to beat on Fearlina again. It helps reduce the damage that tank receives, and allows the healers to focus more on the poor tank getting beat by the lady.
I know Blood Caked blade can give nice DPS, but between a choice of spending those three points in something which has a proc chance, or improving my Icy Touch, which I will inevitably spam throughout the raid, by 30%, I'll choose the skill I can rely on to work, rather then hope it works. on Unholy Aura... I'll have a look at my spec later to see if I can spare a point or two, you made a good point. And it's good to see I can go all out with DnD. :3 On Ghouls, well, like I said. Night of the Dead allows you to re-summon them as fast as they fall. With the next patch and 70% AoE avoidance, that might not even be that necessary anymore too. I've never had much trouble with my Gargoyle dieing before his timer was up though. |
2008-12-15, 13:23 | Link #1870 |
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I certainly don't discount the niche usefulness of AMZ, but atm there's nothing our healers can't handle without it. Also, I'll leave the mob slowing to Thunderclap lol. I'll definitely pickup Imp. IT in a tanking build though.
In pretty much any boss or situation where there is decent AoE damage, my garg is going down in flames. Whether it be Sartharion, 4 Horsemen, Sapphiron, or w/e. I suppose Gargoyle is pretty hax as it is being higher dps or at least on par with DRW, but a little more survivability would be nice.
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2008-12-15, 13:35 | Link #1871 |
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As a warlock speced Destruction (since level 11) I have lots of procs that I do rely on constantly. Before the expansion it was ISM proc on a crit for more shadow damage. Now it is Molten Core off DoTs to increase my Fire damage, Backlash from being hit and Nightfall from Corruption or Drain Life(from glyph only) for some added burst from time to time. And sometimes Nether Protection to reduce incoming damage. Plus now with an engineering trinket (Noise Machine) I get another shield that absords 1,100 damage if hit by melee first.
That is a lot of procs to depend on, but most are up like clockwork, (Nether Protection less so since I can only spec 2/3 into it), and those that aren't are simply a nice bonus when they do proc. I have found that unless I crit really big, my voidwalker is holding a lot more than he use to, and actually lives through several fighters before I need to heal him (one way or the other).
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2008-12-15, 13:46 | Link #1872 | |
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2008-12-15, 15:00 | Link #1873 | |
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And that's strange... I've seen my Gargoyle survive AoE many a time. Most because he just... well, didn't get hit for some reason. I wonder if the Night of the Dead bonus will apply to the Gargoyle as well? |
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2008-12-15, 15:55 | Link #1875 |
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That's the plan. Night of the Dead, a 2 point talent that at the moment reduces the cooldown of our Ghoul summoning abilities, will gain the additional effect of giving 35/70% AoE avoidance. I'm certainly looking forward to it. Re-summoning the Ghoul is a minor hassle, but not having to burn through corpse dusts is something I'm looking forward to.
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2008-12-15, 16:29 | Link #1877 | |
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2008-12-15, 16:36 | Link #1878 | |
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Incidentally, I've found that Blood DKs do more damage than Unholy, but have less utility (Ebon Plague alone is awesome, Unholy Aura is useful, etc). |
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2008-12-15, 16:53 | Link #1879 |
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'Appreciated' it's a little bit different from 'very useful.' And yes, I must admit I did have Naxx in mind when I typed that. It did, however, safe my life during more then one stress moment, Though the best time you notice it is when soloing the tougher elites, when there is no healer watching your back and you will find yourself hanging on to the last two digits of health before your cooldowns are over.
But then, Blood Presence takes care of the solo part. However when it comes to auras, frost and blood are generally preferred over Unholy. I've discussed the virtues of Unholy Aura with a Naxx vet today though, and he agreed that it would be useful to take, especially in battles where speed is essential. Which are plenty in Naxx. In terms of utility, Unholy have a definite advantage over Blood Knights. Ebon Plague and AMF can help more then just yourself. Blood is obviously more aimed at the solo playstyle, and it excels in that. |
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