2013-04-26, 01:23 | Link #6762 | |
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Cagalli is royalty and the people needed a familiar face after what happened to ORB. Thus it makes sense to put the daughter of the Lion on the "throne". I'm also sure that Cagalli does feel some self-guilt over what happened and that it's her responsibility to rebuild ORB and shape it in the way her Father would have wanted.
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2013-04-26, 01:30 | Link #6763 |
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if she feels like she needs to rebuild orb to its former glory why bother coming to the Plants? She would be overwhelmed with Public relations and political backlashing to care what Planets are up to in their Military. makes me wonder why she even had to butt in, in the first place
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2013-04-26, 01:33 | Link #6764 |
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She went to plants because she doesn't approve of ORB Refugees giving ORB secrets to ZAFT even though it's far too late to stop that as the damage is long since done. ZAFT isn't going to throw away everything they gained since the end of SEED because some of it may be because of ORB secrets from ORB Refugees.
Besides, she did it in secret so no one was supposed to know she was there and the visit was SUPPOSED to be short. |
2013-04-26, 01:33 | Link #6765 | |
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2013-04-26, 01:40 | Link #6767 |
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Because Cagalli wants to see things first hand? She was an Action Girl in SEED and considering that not going to stuff personally ended up biting her father in the rear in the end with those Gundams....
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2013-04-26, 01:41 | Link #6768 |
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I don't know if this is a place to enter it but Shin could have become a good character. In my mind, what he was supposed to represent well he is the result of the old saying "the road to hell is paid with good intentions". The main protagonists had good intentions but it resulted in them doing hellish things and now they would have to pay the price and Shin and other survivors of the last war would make sure that they paid up for their actions. Tragically it is not the case.
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2013-04-26, 01:47 | Link #6769 |
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oh shinn could have been a great character in many ways i mean he was a great change of pace from the other Protagonists just look at all the main characters before him usually a happy go lucky, friendly personalities while shinn just wasn't that at all, and like you said "the road to hell is paid with good intentions" that kinda what he was doing through the entire series but because Kira came in and stole the Main character slot and he couldn't fully develop and understand his bloody road that he made trying to remove war
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2013-04-26, 01:50 | Link #6770 |
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There's no doubt that Shinn was set up for greatness but because of outside factors it didn't end up that way. It's why Banpresto is praised so highly for their version of Shinn as he really is a great character who grows up naturally as he's given the time he needs and is told the things that will help him... Instead of Athrun's "Good job Shinn... NOW PWANCH in the face~!!!" that TV Destiny had going on.
Banpresto also handled Shinn x Lunamaria far better. |
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but due to plot armor or maybe his Anti-ship sword had a teleporter device to the Archangel making that they didn't die =/
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2013-04-26, 02:14 | Link #6774 |
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Do you want the meta reason or the pulling stuff out of my rear end reason? Well because I'm nice I'll give you both.
Meta reason: They needed to establish Shinn's character and why he's the way he is. And the perfect way to do so is by having him play off of Cagalli and to a lesser extent Athrun. And for that to happen both of them needed to go to the PLANTS. The pulling stuff out of my arse reason: Because there wouldn't have been anywhere near enough drama if Yuna or his father had went. Because lets face it, early Yuna likely would've verbally destroyed Shinn like he did Cagalli. |
2013-04-26, 02:20 | Link #6775 |
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The problem is Shinn's anger is totally misguided and he doesn't even remotely understand the stakes of the last war. Nevermind yelling at him. Simply pointing out that the alternative was surrender and letting Blue Cosmos have their way with the Coordinators in Orb and that it was only because of Uzumi's actions that the TSA was formed who were the only ones that stopped Plant from becoming a pile of nuked out space debris and the Earth from becoming a Genesis induced waste land would probably take the wind of his sails, or at least establish him as an unreasonable jackass if he doesn't understand or care.
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2013-04-26, 02:26 | Link #6776 | |
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2013-04-26, 02:37 | Link #6778 | |
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Honestly, the first half of DESTINY was not bad at all, then the director/writers had to botch it up and throw Kira into the spotlight by listening to public demand (which is not a good thing in the case of directing) And SEED was good, not the best, but good enough (and even better than all the AUs at the time of release) As for your earlier post about Shin: He clearly does not have the authority or the brains to be the "Judge, Jury, and Executioner". Concerning punishing the old characters, by contrast their actions are MINOR compared to the AF nuking Junius 7 and starting an all out genocidal war in which both sides committed more crimes than the TSA ever did. By your logic every single participant in the war should then be punished. And if you keep putting all the focus on Lacus and Co, then you are clearly biased and are not looking at the full picture |
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2013-04-26, 02:40 | Link #6779 |
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No, it's much better. However it's fair to point out that Banpresto's SRW games are very dialogue heavy and have many Chapters/stages in it. So it's no wonder they had a very easier, cheaper, time to push in a ton of Shinn and Lunamaria development as much of that stuff happens through the talking scenes which is very cheap to throw in a ton of dialogue in that would never have fit in an episode time slot.
- Shinn commits no heinous crimes in Destiny and is heralded as a War Hero and the image of the future of ZAFT. Especially with how well Durandal sells Shinn to the public and the fact that Shinn's abilities had saved lives(His actions with the Junius 7 colony drop and when fleeing from ORB were also well documented). Not to mention that much of humanity had sided with Durandal up to his death as many people agreed with him. |
2013-04-26, 02:52 | Link #6780 |
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http://gundamguy.blogspot.com/2013/0...iny-hd_25.html
GG post for EP 5 Read the comments if you have the time, its highly enjoyable |
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