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KLGChaos · 2012-06-13, 04:04

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Tenchi Hou Take · 2012-06-13, 04:11

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Originally Posted by Kurusu-Shirudo

Will you guys chill out a bit?

Spoiler for spoiler:

Tyabann · 2012-06-13, 04:18

Even if he can't die he can still be beaten, you realize. There are ways to defeat someone without outright killing them.

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Originally Posted by KLGChaos

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I agree, but like you said, we'll see. He's not the hardest of them to challenge, honestly.

Tenchi Hou Take · 2012-06-13, 04:45

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Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Even if he can't die he can still be beaten, you realize. There are ways to defeat someone without outright killing them.

I agree, but like you said, we'll see. He's not the hardest of them to challenge, honestly.

In a straight death match there isn't. And unless the dudes make things into nothing is completely gone they can't contain him so unless they now have permanent bfr (there's been no stated real time limit in savig Medaka), his lose conditions are small and unlikely. Which is pretty terrible starting point in a match.

Qilin · 2012-06-13, 04:47

So it's going to be screws vs. screwdrivers next, right?

Sounds like a no-brainer to me.

Whatever the case, I'm really not feeling all that upset about this little twist, knowing that Nisio has done worse trolls in the past. People just seem to be really attached to Emukae's character here.

DawnEmperor · 2012-06-13, 05:32

Knew Sol was gonna say that...

Well, I guess it would be boring to go along the route of every student council member winning(if I recall from the Flask Plan, Akune defeated Koga, Naze and Koga still escaped). Perhaps this will lead to other developments for Emukae.

Clarste · 2012-06-13, 05:50

Well, if anyone's gonna lose, it should probably be Emukae, as the token Minus on the team. I'd like to question the notion of "tension" though. Ever since the Minus arc started way back when (chapter 50?), I think the only fights that have had any sort of tension have been Naze's fights. Because her gimmick is "suffer before creating something awesome". Everything else has been a curbstomp of one form or another, just due to the way the story works.

Sol Falling · 2012-06-13, 06:47

What are you guys imagining as "win" or "lose" conditions? I'm betting something like "disassembly" Suitor escapes. Even if Kumagawa/the rest of the Student Council (if he acts as a healer) can't be killed it's not like that alone is enough to achieve anything. But I'm doubting whether any further Suitors will actually join because the party is getting too large already anyway. It'd be a "loss" or a setback if the new Suitor managed to just even delay them, right?

Iby · 2012-06-13, 07:04

Spoiler for 150:

Spoiler for :heh::

17Sevens · 2012-06-13, 07:20

Spoiler for 150:

Homura7 · 2012-06-13, 07:22

Jumping the bandwagon is easy.

Spoiler for spoiler:

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Originally Posted by 17Sevens

Spoiler for 150:

And he didn't win that one as well due to erasing everything that had happened there after he left.

Wolfenstein · 2012-06-13, 07:47

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Originally Posted by Qilin

So it's going to be screws vs. screwdrivers next, right?

Sounds like a no-brainer to me.

Whatever the case, I'm really not feeling all that upset about this little twist, knowing that Nisio has done worse trolls in the past. People just seem to be really attached to Emukae's character here.

The troll wasn't as bad as we thought it would be to Emukae herself(even though it still was pretty harsh), but now It's more like the entire Student Council getting trolled(and us) by Nishio.

j0x · 2012-06-13, 07:51

Kumagawa will screw them all!!!

Soji · 2012-06-13, 07:52

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Originally Posted by Wolfenstein

The troll wasn't as bad as we thought it would be to Emukae herself(even though it still was pretty harsh), but now It's more like the entire Student Council getting trolled(and us) by Nishio.

Yeah. This just show how much Nishio love his fan

Tenchi Hou Take · 2012-06-13, 07:55

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Originally Posted by Wolfenstein

The troll wasn't as bad as we thought it would be to Emukae herself(even though it still was pretty harsh), but now It's more like the entire Student Council getting trolled(and us) by Nishio.

TBF it's more like the rest of student council got trolled. Zenkichi and Naze had already fought and weren't exactly in the best condition (hell Zen got knocked out due to being in such bad condition) it was the new girl, and the middle school girl that got trolled, since they had done jack shit and still got off panelled.

Really i wouldn't have minded them losing but Emukae really should have at least a decent spot light chapter before getting saved.

Inarius · 2012-06-13, 08:11

Gawd damn, DAT char development!

Kumagawa showed up...somebody is getting trolled

I just hope Ajimu won't go into 'development' mode and cut her delicious hair QAQ

Homura7 · 2012-06-13, 08:13

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Originally Posted by Tenchi Hou Take

TBF it's more like the rest of student council got trolled. Zenkichi and Naze had already fought and weren't exactly in the best condition (hell Zen got knocked out due to being in such bad condition) it was the new girl, and the middle school girl that got trolled, since they had done jack shit and still got off panelled.

There're still 2 more suitors and you can bet they're gonna fight them.

All in all, this chapter just has shown why the screwdriver woman is the strongest suitor.

Last Carpet · 2012-06-13, 08:39

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Originally Posted by Kurusu-Shirudo

There're still 2 more suitors and you can bet they're gonna fight them.

All in all, this chapter just has shown why the screwdriver woman is the strongest suitor.

2 more?

There are seven suuitors so there should be 4 more

Qilin · 2012-06-13, 08:43

I've been doing some thinking about this whole thing.

At first, I was afraid that Kumagawa showing up to save the day was a bit off if you take "Devil Style" into account. It's a genre convention in battle manga that should have been nullified the ability. But after reflecting on it a bit more, it could have been possible for Kumagawa to nullify the effects of "Devil Style" on himself through the application of "All Fiction".

If this were true, it would have some interesting implications. I have already mentioned in a previous post that "Devil Style" is possibly an excuse that Nisio came up with to justify deviations from established genre conventions. This becomes even more significant when "All Fiction" enters the picture since it could potentially act as an off button to "Devil Style". With the two powers combined, Nisio would basically be able to ignore as many conventions as he likes and then just follow them again whenever convenient, through Kumagawa's interference.

Of course, I realize that I may be over-thinking here, and this might all end up being nonsense. I could maybe just pin this down on my overactive imagination, but if everything does turn out to be true, it would take this story's meta-awareness to whole new levels (if that was still possible).

Homura7 · 2012-06-13, 08:48

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Originally Posted by Last Carpet

2 more?

There are seven suuitors so there should be 4 more

Actually, there are 3 more, unless you're counting the bunny girl too.

2012-06-13, 04:04	Link #9341
KLGChaos The Shermain Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NY Age: 44	Spoiler: We'll see where it goes, but honestly, the appearance of Haxxugawa really does undermine the new student council. Of course, I'm one of the few people that isn't a huge fan of Kumagawa in the first place (though he has his moments). Just looks like another Nisio troll. Moving on and not really caring anymore. The action scenes don't do much for me anyway. __________________

2012-06-13, 04:47	Link #9345
Qilin Romanticist Join Date: Aug 2009 Age: 33	So it's going to be screws vs. screwdrivers next, right? Sounds like a no-brainer to me. Whatever the case, I'm really not feeling all that upset about this little twist, knowing that Nisio has done worse trolls in the past. People just seem to be really attached to Emukae's character here. __________________ "There’s an up higher than up, but at the very top, down is all there is."

2012-06-13, 07:04	Link #9349
Iby minority spirit(?) Fansubber Join Date: May 2011 Location: Hyakka Ryoran Age: 33	Spoiler for 150: Spoiler for :heh:: Unlimited Screwdriver Works! Last edited by Iby; 2012-06-13 at 07:15.

2012-06-13, 07:20	Link #9350
17Sevens Member Join Date: Feb 2012	Spoiler for 150: I like how everyone is saying that they can't lose now that Kumagawa has shown up, when Kumagawa hasn't won a single fight since the Plus 6!!

2012-06-13, 08:11	Link #9356
Inarius ★★★★★ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Heaven Age: 35	Gawd damn, DAT char development! Kumagawa showed up...somebody is getting trolled I just hope Ajimu won't go into 'development' mode and cut her delicious hair QAQ __________________

2012-06-13, 05:32	Link #9346
DawnEmperor Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Somewhere	Knew Sol was gonna say that... Well, I guess it would be boring to go along the route of every student council member winning(if I recall from the Flask Plan, Akune defeated Koga, Naze and Koga still escaped). Perhaps this will lead to other developments for Emukae.

2012-06-13, 05:50	Link #9347
Clarste Human Join Date: Aug 2004 Age: 37	Well, if anyone's gonna lose, it should probably be Emukae, as the token Minus on the team. I'd like to question the notion of "tension" though. Ever since the Minus arc started way back when (chapter 50?), I think the only fights that have had any sort of tension have been Naze's fights. Because her gimmick is "suffer before creating something awesome". Everything else has been a curbstomp of one form or another, just due to the way the story works.

2012-06-13, 06:47	Link #9348
Sol Falling Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Age: 35	What are you guys imagining as "win" or "lose" conditions? I'm betting something like "disassembly" Suitor escapes. Even if Kumagawa/the rest of the Student Council (if he acts as a healer) can't be killed it's not like that alone is enough to achieve anything. But I'm doubting whether any further Suitors will actually join because the party is getting too large already anyway. It'd be a "loss" or a setback if the new Suitor managed to just even delay them, right?

2012-06-13, 07:51	Link #9353
j0x Giga Drill Breaker Join Date: Jan 2009	Kumagawa will screw them all!!!

2012-06-13, 08:43	Link #9359
Qilin Romanticist Join Date: Aug 2009 Age: 33	I've been doing some thinking about this whole thing. At first, I was afraid that Kumagawa showing up to save the day was a bit off if you take "Devil Style" into account. It's a genre convention in battle manga that should have been nullified the ability. But after reflecting on it a bit more, it could have been possible for Kumagawa to nullify the effects of "Devil Style" on himself through the application of "All Fiction". If this were true, it would have some interesting implications. I have already mentioned in a previous post that "Devil Style" is possibly an excuse that Nisio came up with to justify deviations from established genre conventions. This becomes even more significant when "All Fiction" enters the picture since it could potentially act as an off button to "Devil Style". With the two powers combined, Nisio would basically be able to ignore as many conventions as he likes and then just follow them again whenever convenient, through Kumagawa's interference. Of course, I realize that I may be over-thinking here, and this might all end up being nonsense. I could maybe just pin this down on my overactive imagination, but if everything does turn out to be true, it would take this story's meta-awareness to whole new levels (if that was still possible). __________________ "There’s an up higher than up, but at the very top, down is all there is."