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Lancel · 2011-03-16, 11:33

Nah, I seem to recall Macross Plus actually predates the Su-47. The Su-47's first flight was three years after Macross Plus was released, and Russia generally doesn't make public their new stuff until they're testing the prototype. There's a story that says Kawamori once joked that the Russians saw Macross Plus and stole his plane.

Tak · 2011-03-16, 11:37

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Originally Posted by Lancel

There's a story that says Kawamori once joked that the Russians saw Macross Plus and stole his plane.

Actually, I was tempted to say this too in my previous post, but I decided to give the Russians the benefit of the doubt.

But nonetheless, I BELIEVE IT!!

- Tak

Darthtabby · 2011-03-16, 19:40

I think the Su-47 was Sukhoi's revenge on Kawamori for basing the VF-11 on the Su-27M/Su-35. :P (Kawamori claims the VF-11 was based on the Su-37, but I think he's getting the Su-35 and Su-37 mixed up, the 37s were 35s equipped with thrust vectoring and flew after Plus, while the 35s flew before it -assuming you're talking the old Su-35, since Sukhoi recently recycled the Su-35 designation for newer Flankers that are not the same as the old Su-35s. Note too that Sukhoi actually referred to the Su-37s as Su-35s as well, the Su-37 designation was something someone else applied to the plane.)

Magnus, Delta wings are the ones which are triangular: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:RA...age_III_1.JPEG

As for the YF-29... I'm warming up to it a bit. Some of the newer pictures are more attractive then the early ones. I still don't like it supplanting the VF-25 though for the reasons I stated a while back. I really like the VF-25s modular design philosophy as well as its looks. I don't think it's actually got such a problem in atmosphere -the design has plenty of power and if necessary I imagine someone could come up with some aerodynamic booster units. As for armament in atmosphere -it can supposedly use up to six underwing hardpoints. I figure you can hang a fair number of micro missile pods off those. And in clean configuration the swing wings allow it to take on a quite compact profile for Battroid mode (it seems to me that the YF-29 has an awful lot hanging of the back of it in battroid, though I haven't gotten a good view of the rear battroid mode yet).

Actually I'm not even overly fond of the Tornado Pack VF-25 in some respects, let alone anything that's supposedly even more capable. It seems kind of overpowered. One of the things I like about VFs is that they're generally mass production machines rather than super robots. The VF-25 is a cutting edge next generation system but it's still one that's intended for general deployment.

SAKURA2002001 · 2011-04-05, 22:49

Hello everyone.

I am Sakura, Japanese woman like itasha, the car decorated with anime stickers. And I have a question from Japanese itasha sticker shop about design of Macross mecha for customers out of Japan.

Then, could you give me your favorite Macross mecha? I listed some of them but your recommendation is also welcome.

Itasha is car decorated with anime sticker like this.

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Thank you for your idea in advanse!

Father Hentai · 2011-04-06, 05:24

I'd prefer No. 4

SAKURA2002001 · 2011-04-06, 22:53

Thanks
I will up more later

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SAKURA2002001 · 2011-04-07, 23:01

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Se7en Sabers · 2011-04-10, 03:51

for me, I think that my favorite one is the N° 12 :

VF-27 Lucifer Valkyrie Brera Sterne Custom

Otherwise, where is the YF-29 Durandal Valkyrie Alto Custom ?

What a bad ass

Lancel · 2011-04-10, 07:32

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Originally Posted by Se7en Sabers

What a bad ass

Isn't it though? If I could draw and color competently I'd definitely draw some bad ass YF-29 art. It's safe to say it's my favorite.

SAKURA2002001 · 2011-04-13, 08:51

Maybe same with you already have

nettodaiva · 2011-04-17, 18:44

Is it just me or the red color is a lot darker compare to earlier picture few months ago?

Thanks for the pic, i think i'm beginning to like this yf-29, the battroid mode looks intimidating.

Darthtabby · 2011-05-08, 00:35

More proof the Russians are copying Shoji Kawamori's designs:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_sH3C0PhDKR...600-h/pakv.jpg

:lol:

Actually, I was hoping to find some pics showing similarities between the current Sukhoi T-50 PAK FA prototypes and the YF-21 so I could claim that now they were copying the YF-21, but the YF-21 and T-50 don't actually look that similar. I think I was mislead by memories of the T-50 looking vaguely like the Nothrop YF-23 (one of Kawamori's inspirations for the YF-21) from the front even though the two planes look very different from above.

Funny thing is I think I was actually looking for a normal T-50 pic when I found that photoshop -I don't think I had any macross search terms in there!

Ithekro · 2011-10-24, 03:39

Anything new tech or mecha wise in the new movies?

Yot-chan · 2011-10-24, 09:52

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Originally Posted by ithekro

anything new tech or mecha wise in the new movies?

Hell yes!!!

Tak · 2011-10-24, 10:33

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Originally Posted by Ithekro

Anything new tech or mecha wise in the new movies?

As Yotty said.

A lot of new shit.

- Tak

ReddyRedWolf · 2011-10-26, 02:27

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Originally Posted by Ithekro

Anything new tech or mecha wise in the new movies?

-YF-25 in one scene

Spoiler:

-YF-29 with a pack

Spoiler:

-VF-27 with a pack

Spoiler:

-SMS VF-19 with VF-25 Super Pack

Spoiler:

Spoiler for The real treat:

Ithekro · 2011-10-27, 02:33

Who's been building more Quarters?

sa547 · 2011-10-27, 03:27

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Originally Posted by Ithekro

Who's been building more Quarters?

http://macross.anime.net/wiki/Macross_Quarter_class

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Frontier fleet's Yaesu Heavy Industries and the L.A.I. Corporation took charge of design and completed construction in a dock inside Frontier of the "relatively small and excellent maneuverability (variable attack space aircraft carrier)"-concept.

ReddyRedWolf · 2011-10-27, 04:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ithekro

Who's been building more Quarters?

Spoiler for Who:

Tak · 2011-10-27, 10:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

Basically NUNS supported by SMS Macross Quarters and fighters to stop Galaxy's plot. NUNS probably can't spare Battle classes or Macross classes but are fine hiring mercenaries with the right equipment.

But they did. In the novel, the Battle 7 was present during the fight. I would not be surprised if there were others in the background.

Anyway, when the reinforcements came, Jeffry remarked that it was the SMS Quarters in addition to the combined NUNS fleet.

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Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

SMS brought along Isamu Dyson.

Or he came along with the NUNS, who knows. Minor technicalities.

- Tak

2011-04-06, 05:24	Link #1445
Father Hentai Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Munich, Germany	I'd prefer No. 4 __________________ Born the same day as Satoshi Urushihara... Ill fated?

2011-04-07, 23:01	Link #1447
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2011-10-24, 03:39	Link #1453
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	Anything new tech or mecha wise in the new movies? __________________

2011-10-27, 02:33	Link #1457
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	Who's been building more Quarters? __________________

2011-03-16, 11:33	Link #1441
Lancel Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010	Nah, I seem to recall Macross Plus actually predates the Su-47. The Su-47's first flight was three years after Macross Plus was released, and Russia generally doesn't make public their new stuff until they're testing the prototype. There's a story that says Kawamori once joked that the Russians saw Macross Plus and stole his plane.

2011-03-16, 19:40	Link #1443
Darthtabby Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009	I think the Su-47 was Sukhoi's revenge on Kawamori for basing the VF-11 on the Su-27M/Su-35. :P (Kawamori claims the VF-11 was based on the Su-37, but I think he's getting the Su-35 and Su-37 mixed up, the 37s were 35s equipped with thrust vectoring and flew after Plus, while the 35s flew before it -assuming you're talking the old Su-35, since Sukhoi recently recycled the Su-35 designation for newer Flankers that are not the same as the old Su-35s. Note too that Sukhoi actually referred to the Su-37s as Su-35s as well, the Su-37 designation was something someone else applied to the plane.) Magnus, Delta wings are the ones which are triangular: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:RA...age_III_1.JPEG As for the YF-29... I'm warming up to it a bit. Some of the newer pictures are more attractive then the early ones. I still don't like it supplanting the VF-25 though for the reasons I stated a while back. I really like the VF-25s modular design philosophy as well as its looks. I don't think it's actually got such a problem in atmosphere -the design has plenty of power and if necessary I imagine someone could come up with some aerodynamic booster units. As for armament in atmosphere -it can supposedly use up to six underwing hardpoints. I figure you can hang a fair number of micro missile pods off those. And in clean configuration the swing wings allow it to take on a quite compact profile for Battroid mode (it seems to me that the YF-29 has an awful lot hanging of the back of it in battroid, though I haven't gotten a good view of the rear battroid mode yet). Actually I'm not even overly fond of the Tornado Pack VF-25 in some respects, let alone anything that's supposedly even more capable. It seems kind of overpowered. One of the things I like about VFs is that they're generally mass production machines rather than super robots. The VF-25 is a cutting edge next generation system but it's still one that's intended for general deployment.

2011-04-05, 22:49	Link #1444
SAKURA2002001 Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Osaka Japan Age: 41	Hello everyone. I am Sakura, Japanese woman like itasha, the car decorated with anime stickers. And I have a question from Japanese itasha sticker shop about design of Macross mecha for customers out of Japan. Then, could you give me your favorite Macross mecha? I listed some of them but your recommendation is also welcome. Itasha is car decorated with anime sticker like this. No.1 No.2 No.3 No.4 No.5 No.6 No.7 No.8 No.9 No.10 No.11 No.12 No.13 No.14 Thank you for your idea in advanse!

2011-04-06, 22:53	Link #1446
SAKURA2002001 Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Osaka Japan Age: 41	Thanks I will up more later No.15 No.16 No.17 No.18 No.19 No.20 No.21 No.22 No.23 No.24 No.25 No.26 No.27 No.28 No.29 No.30 No.31 No.32 No.33 No.34 No.35 No.36

2011-04-10, 03:51	Link #1448
Se7en Sabers Member Join Date: Jan 2011	for me, I think that my favorite one is the N° 12 : VF-27 Lucifer Valkyrie Brera Sterne Custom Otherwise, where is the YF-29 Durandal Valkyrie Alto Custom ? What a bad ass

2011-04-13, 08:51	Link #1450
SAKURA2002001 Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Osaka Japan Age: 41	Maybe same with you already have

2011-04-17, 18:44	Link #1451
nettodaiva pilot wannabe Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: somewhere	Is it just me or the red color is a lot darker compare to earlier picture few months ago? Thanks for the pic, i think i'm beginning to like this yf-29, the battroid mode looks intimidating.

2011-05-08, 00:35	Link #1452
Darthtabby Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009	More proof the Russians are copying Shoji Kawamori's designs: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_sH3C0PhDKR...600-h/pakv.jpg :lol: Actually, I was hoping to find some pics showing similarities between the current Sukhoi T-50 PAK FA prototypes and the YF-21 so I could claim that now they were copying the YF-21, but the YF-21 and T-50 don't actually look that similar. I think I was mislead by memories of the T-50 looking vaguely like the Nothrop YF-23 (one of Kawamori's inspirations for the YF-21) from the front even though the two planes look very different from above. Funny thing is I think I was actually looking for a normal T-50 pic when I found that photoshop -I don't think I had any macross search terms in there!