Death Note Episode 30 Discussion / Poll

[karumofin]

could someone elaborate more on what was changed form the manga?

generally im really glad that death note has picked up so much momentum again, im liking this new mella/near dynamic a lot more then the disapointing snorefest that was the first arc after light lost his memories.
its very fun to see that the world is starting to side with kira now and that everyone is starting to finally distrust light.

[Shiori-chan]

love this serie so much, cant wait what's gonna happen with near in the next episode

[Mueti]

After all the talk from manga readers about Death Note going downhill after L's death, I am really surprised at just how awesome the series still is.
This episode absolutely rocked, it's as gripping as the the ones in the beginning were.

[medigo]

Originally Posted by Zek

So, about the name misspelling rule... Why didn't Light die when he wrote down the guy's name in like 10 different ways in Episode 1?

he didnt do it intentionally, and from the looks of it he got the name right after all, since ya know..he died

[Jaden]

Haha Light has gone nuts! Does he really think he can kill N like this? He could just wear a mask or something. And Light flourishes straight on N's face before he even has the name written down.

Ryuk is weird, why does he lie about the rules? He says he isn't on anyone's side but it seems he's a little on Light's side.

[xXionx]

Originally Posted by Jaden

Haha Light has gone nuts! Does he really think he can kill N like this? He could just wear a mask or something. And Light flourishes straight on N's face before he even has the name written down.

Ryuk is weird, why does he lie about the rules? He says he isn't on anyone's side but it seems he's a little on Light's side.

yeah thats really weird. I think for a lie he got enough apples ^^

[Dagger]

Ryuk does/says whatever he thinks will make/keep the situation interesting.

[mycen]

Originally Posted by Magus IX

Ryuk does/says whatever he thinks will make/keep the situation interesting.

I agree. Ryuk is 100% netural except when it comes to apples
Seems like Death Gods in general have an addiction in the human world:
Ryuk, apples
Sidoh, chocolate
Rem, love ???

[shakildwz]

Originally Posted by karumofin

could someone elaborate more on what was changed form the manga?

generally im really glad that death note has picked up so much momentum again, im liking this new mella/near dynamic a lot more then the disapointing snorefest that was the first arc after light lost his memories.
its very fun to see that the world is starting to side with kira now and that everyone is starting to finally distrust light.

Sorry but i'm going to put this in a spoiler tag if anyone decides to go back and read the manga for themselves.

This is for things that happaned in past episodes that was changed from the Manga.

Spoiler for Changed Manga Plot In Prior Episodes:

Well..Deathnote doesn't really change anything rather they take out things from the story but still somehow makes it connect.

For one, Light talks to the Prez before as well. He convinced the President to allow him use of middle eastern operatives to raid Mello's hide out.

While they were raiding the first time, this is around the time Shidou first came and talked to Mello's team. Mello ordered Shidou to take off the Helmets of the raid team so he can kill them. Shidou did, and Light and the NPA saw it on Camera.

That's when Light deducted that another Shingami came down to the world. So he was scared that Shidou was going to do the eye deal with somebody on Mello's team. Thats why he gave up pocession of his own Deathnote to make sure Mello's team doesn't randomly see a picture of him or something so they won't figure out he has the Deathnote.


That's just one example of how they changed the Manga from the Anime Series.. there is alot more.

[Whitemoon648]

Originally Posted by Zek

So, about the name misspelling rule... Why didn't Light die when he wrote down the guy's name in like 10 different ways in Episode 1?

Base on the rule, If you misspell it 4 times Intentionally you will die. So that means if you know the spelling and just intentionally misspell it you will die. In episode 1 Light wasnt doing it intentionally. I hope that helps .

[karumofin]

Originally Posted by shakildwz

Sorry but i'm going to put this in a spoiler tag if anyone decides to go back and read the manga for themselves.

This is for things that happaned in past episodes that was changed from the Manga.

Spoiler for Changed Manga Plot In Prior Episodes:

Well..Deathnote doesn't really change anything rather they take out things from the story but still somehow makes it connect.

For one, Light talks to the Prez before as well. He convinced the President to allow him use of middle eastern operatives to raid Mello's hide out.

While they were raiding the first time, this is around the time Shidou first came and talked to Mello's team. Mello ordered Shidou to take off the Helmets of the raid team so he can kill them. Shidou did, and Light and the NPA saw it on Camera.

That's when Light deducted that another Shingami came down to the world. So he was scared that Shidou was going to do the eye deal with somebody on Mello's team. Thats why he gave up pocession of his own Deathnote to make sure Mello's team doesn't randomly see a picture of him or something so they won't figure out he has the Deathnote.


That's just one example of how they changed the Manga from the Anime Series.. there is alot more.

oh sorry, i actually just meant this episode, as people are complaining about how it changed. the change you jsut described was great though, leaving it out works perfectly.
the only thing that was a little disapointing though, was the fact that the new shinigami was only there for one episode, i kind of liked him...

[EphemeralDream]

Originally Posted by karumofin

oh sorry, i actually just meant this episode, as people are complaining about how it changed. the change you jsut described was great though, leaving it out works perfectly.
the only thing that was a little disapointing though, was the fact that the new shinigami was only there for one episode, i kind of liked him...

What was supposed to happen was (in spoilers cause I fear for my life):

Spoiler for Episode Changes:

Kira has the President give him the names and location of the remaining members of the SPK under the threat that he'll have the president launch nukes and then kill himself (which we know can't happen as you can't have the Death Note'd person kill other people). After this next incedent (with the riot) Kira would have the President shoot himself and the Vice-President (the weak one from the episode) would give the bow-down speech he made in this episode.

in the end, they've worked it perfectly w/o presidential suicide

[karumofin]

Originally Posted by EphemeralDream

What was supposed to happen was (in spoilers cause I fear for my life):

Spoiler for Episode Changes:

Kira has the President give him the names and location of the remaining members of the SPK under the threat that he'll have the president launch nukes and then kill himself (which we know can't happen as you can't have the Death Note'd person kill other people). After this next incedent (with the riot) Kira would have the President shoot himself and the Vice-President (the weak one from the episode) would give the bow-down speech he made in this episode.

in the end, they've worked it perfectly w/o presidential suicide

Spoiler for death... scary...:

i think i like it better this way. i was thinking about it during the episode, that it wouldnt be very wise for kira to kill off their president. after all, hes jsut gaining a lot of followers and it wouldnt be too wise to shake them up with such a questionable act. the more i hear about them the more i like these changes

[EphemeralDream]

Originally Posted by karumofin

Spoiler for death... scary...:

i think i like it better this way. i was thinking about it during the episode, that it wouldnt be very wise for kira to kill off their president. after all, hes jsut gaining a lot of followers and it wouldnt be too wise to shake them up with such a questionable act. the more i hear about them the more i like these changes

Actually, it is beneficial for Kira in that it shows the public that not even the President is above Kira's justice. If anything, the people will become more devout

[akoftroy]

Well, the President died from suicide in the manga so the public can't be sure that it's Kira. Public doesn't know Kira can kill with non-heart attacks.

[poolfan]

Originally Posted by Ryuk

I hope they make a dual ending for this show, so that all fans(kira/mello&near) will be happy

MANGA SPOILERS
EDIT by Mod: Spoiler removed

P.S I'm so glad they made Light say "That's it! NEAR has to die..." That was said (in the manga) in their first conversation when Near belittled the 2nd L and it didn't feel good to have that left out.

[poolfan]

Originally Posted by Whitemoon648

Base on the rule, If you misspell it 4 times Intentionally you will die. So that means if you know the spelling and just intentionally misspell it you will die. In episode 1 Light wasnt doing it intentionally. I hope that helps .

According to the fanbook, Light actually got the name right the very first time.

[chikkychappy]

Originally Posted by Mueti

After all the talk from manga readers about Death Note going downhill after L's death, I am really surprised at just how awesome the series still is.
This episode absolutely rocked, it's as gripping as the the ones in the beginning were.

Many of those who said the 2nd arc sucked did not even bother reading.

[Blackage]

Errr lotta, people missed what was different between this episode and the manga actually =o In the manga it was about chapter 75-79. Vol 9

Spoiler for Episode Difference:

The whole thing about the president getting killed was almost completely removed from the anime, in episode 27 the President is the same guy who's in this episode, so they did away with that entire part of Kira and the original President working together and the president commiting suicide. Also Kira never asked the the president to force the FBI/CIA and such to hunt down the SPK, he just wanted to know if members of such organizations had gone missing so he could find them and use them to get to Near.

They took out the part where Hal and Mello were talking to each other for an extended period, showing that Hal knows Mello and is somewhat of a double agent who just wants to see Kira caught.

The conversation about the fake rule was accurate, but Near's original intent and he made it even clearer in the manga with his attitude was that he wanted to create mistrust amoung the Japanese Police force, he hung up immediately after they said "We can't let you test the notebook Near"

The MAJOR change which pretty much confirms for Near that L is Kira, is that after they discuss with Near about the fake rule, Mello calls the Japanese Police and asks to speak with Mogi. He invites Mogi to New York, and leads him down to the SPK's little hideout, and the SPK starts asking Mogi a bunch of questions, which leads Light into sending Demegawa there to drag all of them out and killing them with Misa's eyes. In Near's opinion, since the only ones who knew of their location were the current SPK and the Japanese Police Force, L must be Kira. In this anime however, the Japanese Police Force doesn't know, L just had the CIA/FBI and whatever find the hideout and now he's sending Demegawa in like that. I wonder how they're gonna spin it. >_>

[enerp8]

I have doubt in this episode. How does N knoes the rules of the death note? I don't remember anyone tell him the rules...