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Perfect 10 | 791 | 63.74% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 163 | 13.13% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 95 | 7.66% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 67 | 5.40% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 17 | 1.37% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 18 | 1.45% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 7 | 0.56% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 7 | 0.56% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 4 | 0.32% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 72 | 5.80% | |
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2013-11-12, 17:31 | Link #5841 | |
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2013-11-13, 08:45 | Link #5844 | |
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Uh, seems like I kicked off more than I intended to, sorry.
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Worse, the show's sense of morality is incredibly selective, where many characters get away with what they did. |
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2013-11-13, 15:59 | Link #5847 |
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And Suzaku or Euphemia would consider the rebellion to be a bad thing, far worse than their more peaceful alternatives.
Morality is a complex topic, a fully subjective issue and one which will never be rationalized or interpreted in the same way. But you know what Lelouch's morality includes? Destruction as a prelude to creation. S1, episode 23: At Least with Sorrow Lelouch: Perhaps this is what I've longed for ever since that day: the destruction and loss of everything. That's right -- destruction always comes before creation, and for that goal, even my own conscience must be cast aside. The only path left to me is straight ahead. Now then... R2, episode 1: The Day the Demon Awakens: Lelouch: I am Zero. The one who will destroy the world and the one who'll recreate the world anew. R2 episode 22: Emperor Lelouch Lelouch: What trait is most important for governing the world? Kaguya: It's pride. The pride of self-governance. Lelouch: Good answer. You speak with wisdom, Lady Kaguya. However, I would submit a different answer. Kaguya: Oh, and what would that answer be? Lelouch: The will to destroy. Kaguya: Destroy? Lelouch: Destroy the world...and even oneself! R2, episode 25: Re; Lelouch: Yes. I... I destroy...the world...and create it....anew. |
2013-11-13, 22:12 | Link #5848 | |
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Not to mention, more importantly, that Suzaku finally admitted he was a killer in Turn 20 after he let loose FLEIJA. There were no purely peaceful methods, especially given that Suzaku was a lackey to the Britannian Empire, whose oppressive nature practically necessitated extremities to be taken up against, else the hapless natives of its assimilated Number nations would suffer. Lelouch, meanwhile, was in the process of freeing other nations and forming the UFN in season two, forming a legitimate resistance against Britannia. This was the more preferable alternative: save Nunnally, beat Charles and Schneizel, and sponsor a more just nation in its place. Lelouch alluded to this in Picture drama 9.xx. |
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Up to this point, I still don't know how Nunnally was somehow able to know exactly what Lelouch was doing just by touching him. It's like the writers were like, " Nunnally found out kthxbai".
Was Lelouch able to somehow condense his memories so that it could be transferred by touch right before his death? and if so, how? That's like introducing something completely new in the last few minutes there. The only thing we saw that was remotely similar to that was Suzaku and C.C. in season 1 when by touching C.C., Suzaku was able to see into the mind of C.C. That would imply Lelouch MAY have a code. If it weren't for this issue, I would be more convinced of his death. That being said, this discussion has gone on for too long; if Sunrise wants to bring him back for a sequel, then they will do it. I mean, if Mu-La-Flaga came back, I don't see why Lelouch can't. |
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^Your wish has a chance at coming true. There's a Code Geass movie planned. If it features an original script (Possible) or a condensation of season 1 & 2, (Unlikely) then the Lelouch is alive theory is scrapped. But if it features a script that continues where R2 left off, then the chances of seeing an alive Lulu is high.
The "possible" above is because most movies for anime or manga usually feature an original script that isn't canon to the actual plot. So this can also apply to the Lelouch of the Rebellion movie. The "unlikely" above is because there are already two OVAs that condense the R1 & R2 series into movie format. Not really a movie, but more like a recap with just a little extra material. Still, since Akito is canon & ties in with both seasons, its possible that the movie can follow the same approach. For now, we'll just have to wait & see. Source: ANN. As you can see, that article is now two years old & there's still no word, so I'm thinking the reason why they are keeping it hush hush is because the chances of Lulu reappearing is possible. But don't get your hopes too high, the movie can just focus on Suzaku or any other member of the original cast. Not only that, but the movie doesn't even need to take place after R2, it can be another interquel like Akito or even a prequel from Charles' PoV. The possibilities are plenty.
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2014-01-10, 14:51 | Link #5855 | |
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2014-01-12, 17:20 | Link #5856 |
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what made the last few episodes of Code Geass so freaking good was the fact that lelouch pretty much had made an enemy of everyone without everyone knowing why or how except for him and even the people watching probably couldn't make heads or tails out of it but watched anyway.
His plan was essentially the same as his brother (cant spell his name to save my life Schneizel or something like that) Kallen figured out his plan. Literally as he's dying during my first time watching this i'm just going nuts. You wonder almost what was going through his head. What made Lelouch so good was he was seemingly 3 steps ahead of everybody the entire series and at the end you feel weird watching a great character die. |
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2014-03-04, 21:36 | Link #5858 |
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I think lelouch lives. First, the last words of C.C "Right, Lelouch?" while you could think she isn't really speaking to him, you must consider what she said before "The power of Kings, known as Geass, brings one solitude. Not quite accurate, is it?" she is saying the geass doesn't bring her solitude...why? because Lelouch passed the final stage of geass and became immortal.
You will also notice the smile on her face when she says that. Why is she smiling, Lelouch, her accomplice, is dead, and she as still all eternity to live alone. It was Lelouch's promise to make her smile, and how else can he do that than by living all eternity with her? Another argument in favor of this theory is the presence of the Crane made in origami (made by Sayoko Shinozaki in the episode 3 of the first season, for Nunally) near C.C. at the end. First, why would she take something that belonged to Nunally? Plus I serched if there was any symbolism related to the crane, and there is. In japanese culture it is often used as a symbol for peace, but a more ancient use is to represent longevity, or immortality. And for me that is the final proff that lelouch became immortal and is escaping with C.C. |
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2014-03-04, 22:19 | Link #5860 |
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Yes, yes and yes. Although I think it's more probable that it is the same Crane, we will never know for sure, and it's two theories proving the same thing, Lelouch lives. It's when I discover symbolism like that, that I want to jsut re-watch the entire anime just to see if there is any other symols to analyse
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