World Of Warcraft Discussion Thread

[Ithekro]

Humans are slighting more forgiving.

Plus there is an order to things in these conflicts. "We have to be alive if we want to fight each other to the death, (one on one)...and this creature is kicking both our asses".

Judging by the looks on their faces at the end, the human and the orc had probably heard of Panderans before, and finally getting a good look at one, plus the green beauty of the place they were in, awed them.

(To the human, it might remind them of Northshire or Lorderon before the wars, and to the orc it might remind them of Nagrand.)

[Xacual]

Originally Posted by Balzac

Edit: Also, there should be no truce! Dwarves have long memories... and the Horde's atrocities will not go unpunished... [/end role play]

The Horde never really did anything to the dwarves though, the got ignored in the first two wars, except for the wildhammer clans.

[Balzac]

Well we all be hearin' what those green-skinned galoots did t' our allies 'n Ashenvale, an' I be hearin' disturbin' things from up north, where I hear th' Banshee Queen an' her band of livin' dead are up to no good fer all th' livin'..

If it weren't fer our own troubles wit' the Council, I'd half a mind to callin' for a counter-attack instead o' diggin' fer Titan artifacts or getting hoity-toity wit' them Darkirons. [/end roleplay]

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by Ithekro

In game terms, that looks like two warriors ungeared verses a geared monk.

Does make me wonder who's voicing the Pandaran narrator.

Not just a geared monk. They are 2 undergeared warriors fighting against a VERY skilled monk by the name of Chen Stormstout.

[Skane]

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

Not just a geared monk. They are 2 undergeared warriors fighting against a VERY skilled monk by the name of Chen Stormstout.

Who, for those who didn't play Warcraft 3, was one of the Heroes who helped shape the current Horde into existence.

Cheers.

[Last Sinner]

Originally Posted by Skane

Who, for those who didn't play Warcraft 3, was one of the Heroes who helped shape the current Horde into existence.

Cheers.

He doesn't pick sides these days, though. He tagged along in WC3 days more because of Rexxar. And Rexxar isn't exactly a favourite of Garrosh. Chen is about balance and booze. Something both the Horde and Alliance aren't good at.

[Kyouka]

does anyone here arena?

[Westlo]

Originally Posted by Kyouka

does anyone here arena?

Not since season 3 aka the season where nearly every gladiator transferred to Bloodlust and more precisely Blackrock horde.

[Mr Hat and Clogs]

Originally Posted by Last Sinner

He doesn't pick sides these days, though. He tagged along in WC3 days more because of Rexxar. And Rexxar isn't exactly a favourite of Garrosh. Chen is about balance and booze. Something both the Horde and Alliance aren't good at.

I'd have figured the Alliance would have the booze down pat, what with the Dwarves and all.

Also, would you guys say that Pandaria is worth coming back for? I lost interest in early-mid Cata with the raids (srsly, had been doing that non-stop since the game launched). Dunno if I'd raid, but I'd be curious to try some things.

Also, that cinematic was pretty amusing, particularly when the panda turned up.

[Mahou]

Objectively the changes sound good and fancy, but for my personal "experience"?
- WoW feats Farmville and friends? Been there done that, though fun for those who needs a change from dailys and raid so more power to them
- Quicker instances? I can see the incoming flamewar of "leet and hardcore skillz" versus the rest. Personally, I have never been interested into instances in any form

Should I decide to get the expansion (even though I won't play it on my laptop due to my VNs eating hdd space like crazy; so it takes some time automatically until I would be able to play), then it will be like Cata mostly to reach the max. level, to see the new zones and - maybe - test out the monk (depending on how the more active combat with them feels like).
Anyway, let's wait and see how the first impressions for the release version will turn out .

[Last Sinner]

Originally Posted by Mr Hat and Clogs

I'd have figured the Alliance would have the booze down pat, what with the Dwarves and all.

Also, would you guys say that Pandaria is worth coming back for? I lost interest in early-mid Cata with the raids (srsly, had been doing that non-stop since the game launched). Dunno if I'd raid, but I'd be curious to try some things.

Also, that cinematic was pretty amusing, particularly when the panda turned up.

- Every player has a chance to get a Legendary and has an equal chance at getting the mount from Alani.
- LFR is better and Good Fortune Charms will improve your chances of getting loot.
- Dailies are better, more creative, faster and there are plenty of them to do.
- The zones are very story and lore rich. The questing in Pandaria is easily the best experience of all versions. LK was definitely my fave until now but Pandaria has beaten it.
- Levelling Professions is easier.
- Challenge Modes offer good rewards and chances at prestigious mounts.
- The new instances/heroics are a lot more fun than Cata's.
- Black Market AH has some interesting things on offer.
- The zones are damn beautiful.
- A lot of annoying problems from previous expansions have been fixed.
- Pandas are kewl.

Look, if you're expecting a ground-breaking version, it's not it. There's only so many things you can do to an MMO. Is it superior to Cata? Definitely. Is it superior to LK? Perhaps.


Edit: For any mount collectors, confirmation the Black Market stocks the hard to get ones. Drake of the North Wind aka the 1% chance one from Vortex Pinnacle is currently on the Lost Isles BMAH. Was swiftly bidded to the 1 million cap.

[Balzac]

Originally Posted by Mahou

- WoW feats Farmville and friends? Been there done that, though fun for those who needs a change from dailys and raid so more power to them

My guild-mate assured the rest of his folks who're high-leveled in guild chat about a week ago that it wasn't so much Farmville as Harvest Moon/Rune Factory.

Which to me sounds awesome (having played one of them Rune Factory ones on my niece's DS) and me getting hooked on juggling schedule and crops and fighting monsters and winning the hand of the girl of my dreams. Now if only I could also do the same for the sake of a sprightly dwarven lass in-game...

[Destined_Fate]

Originally Posted by Xacual

The Horde never really did anything to the dwarves though, the got ignored in the first two wars, except for the wildhammer clans.

Actually the Orcs laid siege to Ironforge multiple times, however they never could dislodge the Dwarves. I'm surprised that Blizzard never continued on that since the Dwarves are one of the few races that the old Horde almost never won against because the Dwarves were masters of siege and defense. Of course defending only doesn't win wars, so the Dwarves just left it to the humans to lead the offense.

[Ithekro]

There is even a wrecked Horde catapult in the museum at Ironforge as a reminder of just how close the orcs got to taking the place.

The Wildhammers on the otherhand have been fighting the Horde or pieces of the Horde since the Second War. Particularlly against the Dragonmaw Clan, both on Azeroth and in Outland.

[Last Sinner]

Okay, I guess people weren't aware Theramore is cactus come Pandaria.

[Destined_Fate]

Really? That place is a big part of the Novel/Theramore Event and apparently for MoP...

Spoiler:

Jaina and Kalec will be a couple due to the Novel Events. That's an issue because Kalec already has a woman dragon... Who's being stalked by a human named Jorad Mace. Awkward.

They also seem to be hosting the Theramore event before MoP. Good thing I already did all the quests there. Will miss the place, real shame since that place is the most fortified Alliance City.

Well, was... Also, anyone catch Jaina's new model? Have they released it yet?

[Last Sinner]

Spoiler for The relations:

Tyragosa had already yielded Kalecgos to Anveena. Once Anveena did her sacrifice at Sunwell Plateau, that left Kalecgos open on the market since Jorad had saved Tryagosa's skin several times. Frankly, Jaina was only ever able to associate with magic users or Thrall. For obvious reasons, that leaves magic users that aren't crackpots or ready to doom the world. Hell, maybe Jaina figures if Thrall can became an aspect and get hitched, maybe she should get hitched with an aspect. And since Blue aspect is the magic using one, it seems the most suitable union for Jaina.

[Mr Hat and Clogs]

So, she's marrying for money/power? Such a gold digger!

[Destined_Fate]

Originally Posted by Last Sinner

Spoiler for The relations:

Tyragosa had already yielded Kalecgos to Anveena. Once Anveena did her sacrifice at Sunwell Plateau, that left Kalecgos open on the market since Jorad had saved Tryagosa's skin several times. Frankly, Jaina was only ever able to associate with magic users or Thrall. For obvious reasons, that leaves magic users that aren't crackpots or ready to doom the world. Hell, maybe Jaina figures if Thrall can became an aspect and get hitched, maybe she should get hitched with an aspect. And since Blue aspect is the magic using one, it seems the most suitable union for Jaina.

Spoiler:

Still doesn't change how messed up it is. Thought Jaina had far better standards than being that extra girl on the side for Mac'daddy Blue Dragon dude. I also don't approve of Jorad trying his hardest to get in Tyragosa's pants despite the fact that she's with Kalec(Though not anymore apparantly since he's all for Jaina now). How many private adventures he has already gotten set up with just them and no Kalec in sight. Whatever the case I consider this a huge cope out that cheapens Jaina and makes me hate that blue dragon for adding her to his harem. Can see it now, Kalec telling Jaina to hush as she takes to the sidelines and differs to her mac'daddy blue dragon to make decisions for you. In fact he already did! Jaina wanted to take out Orgrimmar, Kalec tells her no so she doesn't. They later make out. Ugh.

I also hate that before this Kalec and Jaina never even talked to each other all that much or at all. Than suddenly Jaina wants to mount the Blue Dragon after he fails to save her city and than orders her to stop what she's doing and be a good girl for him. Sounds like a bad fanfic.

[Tokkan]

All I have to say to the spoiler stuff, remember the only lore-crafting guy Blizzard still has is Chris Metzen, and as good as he is at crafting a rich universe, he's absolutely horrible when it comes to direction of story. Just look at what happened to SC2 without James Phinney's help.