Clannad ~After Story~ (Second season) - General Discussion Thread

[Leo_Otaku]

I really don't care about those scenes thy leave out I care if the don't show our side character stories >.< That is my beef!

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Proto

Yeah, they just toned down the Kyou groping scene, but it was really minor compared to what they left.

They cut all of Akio's remarks about how he was bigger than Tomoya as well...

And there was a couple other things, I think, but I can't think of them right now.

It's just that... this is KyoAni, they made Haruhi of all things. Why tone down the Kyou groping at all?

Originally Posted by Leo_Otaku

I really don't care about those scenes thy leave out I care if the don't show our side character stories >.< That is my beef!

I'm scared we'll lose Ryou's epic epic lines from the end of Kappei's route, myself...

[Proto]

It's just that... this is KyoAni, they made Haruhi of all things. Why tone down the Kyou groping at all?

I guess it had to do with the broadcast stations. Possibly some of them had harder guidelines for those kind of scenes than the ones they used for Haruhi.

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Proto

I guess it had to do with the broadcast stations. Possibly some of them had harder guidelines for those kind of scenes than the ones they used for Haruhi.

And that's exactly why I don't like that we're getting the 4:3 version again.

[Littm]

Wait a sec, censored things ? Any screens ?

As for 4:3 - it doesn't matter what monitor you have - ws or not - standart broadcasting 640x480 is awfull at the big monitor.

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Littm

Wait a sec, censored things ? Any screens ?

If you play the game, you tend to notice there was some things they did cut out.

Amusingly, Kyou's storage scene was the least explicit of the three you can get in the game (disregarding Akio's). Wonder if that had something to do with their decision on who's to do...

[Littm]

I played all Key games except Little Busters. But where was this scene in storage room with Kyou ? And one more thing - we are talking about TV censored edition and DVD edition or not ?

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Littm

I played all Key games except Little Busters. But where was this scene in storage room with Kyou ? And one more thing - we are talking about TV censored edition and DVD edition or not ?

Nothing was changed for the DVD version...

You don't remember the scene from the anime? It was the result of one of Yukine's spell games.

The gym storage scenes are optional events in Yukine's route. If you're able to have enough contact with either Nagisa, Tomoyo, or Kyou for their option to appear, you get a rather ecchi scene in the gym storage room with them, though there are no visuals, sadly.

(It's worth noting that the counter-charm in the game was Tomoya dropping his pants, not taking his shirt off. In Nagisa's scene, she actually has to take off his pants for him, as Tomoya can't move his arms.)

Although Misae and Fuuko can appear as an option, you can't select them. (Tomoya decides that Fuuko is too loli for his tastes.)

In addition, if you pick Nagisa but have never met her father, you'll get Akio in the storage room instead.

If you don't pick anyone, you get Sunohara.

[drmr]

Originally Posted by Littm

But where was this scene in storage room with Kyou ?

Spoiler for Kyou, Tomoya in storage room:

That happened after Tomoya made a certain wish with Yukine's encouragement in the the old library using two coins placed one on top of another.

Additionally you guys keep blowing a lot of hot air regarding censorship;

Censorship: Images or Voices are masked or cut from the original film.
Scenes Purposly Left Out: Cost cutting or Director's decision.

I have yet to see any censorship in Clannad SI. Actually I'd prefer censorship over skipping routes.

Feel free to show me were censorship was used.


Edit: You beat me to it Kaisos Erranon, I took too long write my post as usual :P

[kimchipride]

I'm waiting for the op and ed everyday...

[Littm]

Well, this scene where you can choose variants ? If so - then I haven't seen all of them. Then I'll try them all soon.

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by drmr

Censorship: Images or Voices are masked or cut from the original film.
Scenes Purposly Left Out: Cost cutting or Director's decision.

I have yet to see any censorship in Clannad SI. Actually I'd prefer censorship over skipping routes.

Feel free to show me were censorship was used.

I'd define censorship as "the removal of 'offensive' content from an original work for an adaptation" as well.

[drmr]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

I'd define censorship as "the removal of 'offensive' content from an original work for an adaptation" as well.

I thought I already covered that base?

Censorship: Images or Voices are masked or cut from the original film.

If you still misunderstand, countries with strict laws will mask or cut offensive material (images or voices) subject to their laws.

mask = cover over!
cut = remove!


EDIT: Sorry (I was in the middle of something else and completely missed the word adaptation). Don’t know maybe this could be classified as a gray area depending which perspective you take. But ultimately a film director has the last say with what’s kept on film or what’s left out, so whether it's an adaptation or not it's still an original in their eye’s and censorship would only come into play depending on the country destined to be shown in, just as the censorship for a written novel will be taken care by a different committee.

[Leo_Otaku]

some thing btw were taken from the PS2 version that were in the orginal like a few perverted scenes like sunohara over imagination with kappei XD

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by drmr

I thought I already covered that base?

If you still misunderstand, countries with strict laws will mask or cut offensive material (images or voices) subject to their laws.

mask = cover over!
cut = remove!


EDIT: Sorry (I was in the middle of something else and completely missed the word adaptation). Don’t know maybe this could be classified as a gray area depending which perspective you take. But ultimately a film director has the last say with what’s kept on film or what’s left out, so whether it's an adaptation or not it's still an original in their eye’s and censorship would only come into play depending on the country destined to be shown in, just as the censorship for a written novel will be taken care by a different committee.

What you're arguing here is semantics...

In any case, they cut content that was offensive to TBS... it didn't really matter for the first season, but After Story has several epic jokes based around Tomoya doing rather dirty things, and Kappei's route also has similar epic jokes, like this:

Originally Posted by Leo_Otaku

some thing btw were taken from the PS2 version that were in the orginal like a few perverted scenes like sunohara over imagination with kappei XD

God, I love Tomoya's dirty imagination.

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[Kristen]

Originally Posted by kimchipride

I'm waiting for the op and ed everyday...

I think that we're not going to get it until the first episode.If it's been about a month since they came out, people will probably not have them recorded, still, if they were recorded at all. We'll have to wait 2 weeks.

Also... OMG! Exactly 13 days to go!

[boggart]

Originally Posted by Kristen

Also... OMG! Exactly 13 days to go!

You remind me of me at the same time last year...

[Bathory Area]

Can not wait until next mounth.

http://myanimelist.net/anime/4181/Clannad_~After_Story~

[drmr]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

What you're arguing here is semantics...

No not arguing, just stating the fact that there was never any censorship to begin with and the only one with semantic issues is yourself.

Originally Posted by Bathory Area

Can not wait until next mounth.

http://myanimelist.net/anime/4181/Clannad_~After_Story~

I thought the consensus here was for 23-24 AS episodes, why has that site only stated 13, or are they just playing it safe? I suppose it doesn't really matter with less than a fortnight left.