2012-04-09, 09:01 | Link #201 | |
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2012-04-09, 09:07 | Link #202 | |
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^ EDIT: Yeah, I guess neither of us can see Yuuko smiling...right?
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Wait wait wait, you mentioned the PV? Does that mean you actually saw it? So I assume you saw Okonogi acting like an energetic comedy fall-back, Teiichi acting the way you mentioned around Yuuko, and ofcourse Yuuko not acting like a damn terrifying ghost. So now, you say what happened in the first episode was unexpected? Assuming you indeed watched all the PVs, ah but if you watched them--that means you also saw the creepy image I posted which was taken from the first PV, no? Now, how can you see something like that in the PV then when you actually watch the series and don't see it things suddenly become "hurr durr I guess the ghost is just annoying and moe the PV lied to me hurr durr". All that only assuming you watched all the PVs, since you bothered to mention it. Now regarding your last statement, now you're going to pretend you didn't say you were expecting this to be like Shiki/Another? So you admit the promotional material would never say something like that? Well then where did your expectations come from? Tags on MAL and ANN instead of the actual promotional videos?
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2012-04-09, 09:11 | Link #203 | |
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2012-04-09, 09:14 | Link #204 |
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I might be mistaken but this first episode just introduces the character's personalities in a more light hearted fashion. From the looks of things the next episode "episode 2" will be the manga's chapter 1 which is basically the introduction to Teeichi and Yuuko's relationship and adds the actual darker feel of the series.
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2012-04-09, 09:28 | Link #205 | |
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Indeed, what exactly are other people reading? The fundamental character dynamic is a harem comedy! It's Yuuko, Kirie and Momoe fighting over the affections of Teiichi, with varying techniques and effectiveness. For me, the rest is just a scaffolding to enable the comedy that takes place as a result of those interactions. And thinking back on it, I guess the reason I like the manga is that Maybe has done an incredibly good job of keeping me uncertain how it's going to play out. My gut says the series is ultimately light-hearted, but I also think there's a large chance that I'm wrong. The skill there is that, either way I think I'll be content with it, and not feel like I just got horribly trolled by the author. It is an enjoyable series. |
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2012-04-09, 09:32 | Link #206 | |
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I understand where he is coming from as well. But the thing to remember for everyone is that advertisements lie. No, your penis or breasts won't get bigger from a pill, it's not really new and improved, the sale is only because they marked up the price initially, and little cartoon characters aren't what your cleaning/hygiene products look like under a microscope. Having strong expectations just from a synopsis or a preview that uses cherry picked images is just going to set you up for disappointment. Heck how many of us come into an anime excited because we liked the manga/novel/etc. and come away unhappy, even though we already knew what the story would be like going in?
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I wasn't alone either in what was to be expected either. See totoum's and Kanon's responses for example. Sure, Kanon may have tolerated it, but I for one don't tolerate it all and you can't expect everyone to just accept it. This is a forum and forums are for critiquing. Not everything has to have abundant amounts of silly comedy sheniengans because we got genres dedicated to that not to mention at least a good half of anime these days are of that kind. Sure, I enjoy the odd well made slice of life/comedy here and there but I don't want it in every frakken genre or series. Is it that selfish to not want those elements? |
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2012-04-09, 10:19 | Link #209 |
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This is why they shouldn't have deviated from the source material right away. Or at all, for that matter. One of the mysteries was supposed to have been introduced at the end of the first chapter, but because they instead chose to prioritize showing the mains together first (which shouldn't have happened this early), including a "with" and "without" segment that I thought took up too much time, valuable time for the more serious parts were lost for the first episode.
People will understandably be angry at what they perceive to be false advertising.
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2012-04-09, 10:21 | Link #210 | |
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2012-04-09, 10:27 | Link #211 | |
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Not in the manga I'm reading. Actually there is no fight at all, thanks to Kirie's tsundereish part of herself. And anyway it's not the main theme there.
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2012-04-09, 11:13 | Link #212 | |
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Crunchyroll will stream the series under the name "Dusk Maiden of Amnesia".
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2012-04-09, 11:17 | Link #213 | |
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Demi Soda seems to be arguing that with this show the exact opposite is going on - The image of darker and different was promoted, but instead we get conventional and standard. I think it's pretty clear which of these types of switches is more inherently disappointing than the other one. I'm not necessarily saying that Demi Soda is right (I don't know, I'm watching this mainly since Coldlight recommended it to me, and so I'm coming in pretty much entirely blind here), but if I was expecting dark/different and I got standard/conventional, I'd consider that quite a letdown. So I think people should cut Demi Soda some slack here, especially since I know for a fact that Demi Soda likes serious mystery/horror and has had to put up with some real disappointments there lately (such as the ending to Another). Now, that being said, I largely enjoyed this first episode. I agree with Coldlight that it did seem a tad bit wasteful to basically redo a full third or so of the episode. While that did increase the comedy value some, it also made everything seem a bit dragged out to me. However, I loved the visuals, I loved the seiyu work, and I really like the overall style of this show. I think the cast is pretty well-balanced, although I hope the dialogue is spread out a bit more evenly in the future. And yes, Coldlight, Kirie reminds me a bit of someone we're both big fans of, lol. Mind you, Kirie is a lot less genki girl than that character is, similarly serious-minded though. I do like parts of the premise of this show, especially this ghost girl being someone who can only be touched by the male lead. I have to admit, that's a pretty cool concept. The character designs, artwork, and animation are all really nice in this too. It comes together beautifully. That's especially true of that forest path walk against a brilliant sunset. Man, that was truly gorgeous visuals, honestly reminding me of a Thomas Kinkade painting. The tone I'm getting from this show is that it's very anime-esque, but also that it has a mix of mystery, horror, and comedy similar to the old Ghostbusters cartoon of the 1980s. If that continues, I'm happy with that overall balance. I'll give this episode a 8/10. It would be a 7/10 if not for those breathtaking visuals at the end, but those alone earn it an extra point. I am looking forward to the second episode.
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2012-04-09, 11:23 | Link #214 | |
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No harm done after all as I keep saying....are they going to dent the sales any?
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There's a lot of potentially good series you're going to miss out on if you approach everything with that sort of mindset, and that's really sad. Also, to regard Shiki, Another, or Ghost Hunt as though they are the epitome of the perfect "dark mystery/horror anime series" means that you don't know much about the genre. Comparing it to those shows is NOT a compliment (ESPECIALLY Shiki).
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2012-04-09, 12:03 | Link #216 |
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For those who never read the manga, this series does have horror/mystery elements, but it's also very much a romantic comedy as well. Those expecting some pure horror story are probably better off looking elsewhere.
That being said, I enjoyed the first episode. The repeat segment was cool to watch thanks to Yuuko's antics, though I was surprised that they jumped liked 20 chapters in on the first episode. I'm assuming they'll go back and explain the earlier chapters through flashbacks in later episodes, especially considering the first chapter had a LOT of important info about the mystery.
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2012-04-09, 12:41 | Link #219 |
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1. I liked the way they started, by giving us a situation from after things had developed. I expect they will do the build-up in flashbacks. Seems like a fairly smart way to proceed, to me.
2. I just want to say that although I agree that Shiki and Another are not especially wonderful as "dark mystery/horror" stories, I thought both of those were excellent anime. 3. I was not especially thrilled by the repeat section. Seemed a poor use of the time. Maybe it's just that it gave me bad memories of Endless Eight. 4. I loved the work of Fukuen Misato as Okonogi, the talkative investigatrix. The voice work was all good, in fact.
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2012-04-09, 12:47 | Link #220 | |
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Or you can get technical and say they skipped to chapter three since the prologue is split into two chapters. Spoiler for more chapter spoilers:
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