(CR) Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha S2 [Split-cour]

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor

The point is, Umehara's Anos is hardly a problem for a lot (if not most) of the audience. And honestly, I'm getting tired of people repeating the same complaint here ever since Suzuki got fired & Umehara replaced him. It's like those people who like to bring up Watsuki's porn case whenever Rurouni Kenshin is brought up.

Isn't there a rule in this forum about not repeating the same complaint again & again or something?

It's the first episode with Umehara, of course we're going to comment on it.

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

Well, I'd kinda forgotten what he sounded like in S1, so, yeah.

Originally Posted by Fimbulvetr

S1 was long ago, and it was bad, so of course I don't remember how Anos sounded. The only reason I know he has a new voice is because of how many people write about it. I thought it was good.
People here seem to have amazing memory (or mine is just really poor).

I guess it depends on people. You wouldn't fail to notice if the lead actor of a TV show was replaced, would you? Well, it's the same for me. Voice actors are just as important as actors. I do know that some people have a harder time recognizing voices though, my comment was too harsh. I think it's a bit of a shame though, since that means VA don't get as much recognition for their work because of it.

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by Kanon

I guess it depends on people. You wouldn't fail to notice if the lead actor of a TV show was replaced, would you? Well, it's the same for me.

You underestimate my power.

[shmaster]

This is worse than I thought...
Umehara was saying ge is giving husband best and all that in the interview,so I watched the episode with a benefit of doubt in mind.
The end result? I actually can't tell the difference from his acting as Minezawa or Charlios. This is some serious problem.

At least Koyama is doing fine so far, although I prefer Koyasu for his role. I'll wait and see on this.

But what really surprised me us Leno. Totally didn't expect her to be this shoujo.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Originally Posted by Kanon

It's the first episode with Umehara, of course we're going to comment on it.

I guess it depends on people. You wouldn't fail to notice if the lead actor of a TV show was replaced, would you? Well, it's the same for me. Voice actors are just as important as actors. I do know that some people have a harder time recognizing voices though, my comment was too harsh. I think it's a bit of a shame though, since that means VA don't get as much recognition for their work because of it.

Well, as you can see for yourself with the comments that you replied above, even in this very forum where longtime anime-enthusiasts gather, I'm not alone in being okay with Umehara's voice as Anos and not making a big deal out of it. And most casuals also have no problem with it. So Umehara is not really a universal problem or "obvious problem" as some people would like us to believe.

Were's still in episode 1 now and I believe most of us already expressed our opinions on Umehara. My hope is that people can stop ranting about it whenever a new episode comes out in the future because that will truly be repetitive and can derail the conversation from what actually happen in the show. If you want to keep praising Suzuki & bashing Umehara (or vice versa), we have a separate thread for seiyuus. We don't want another Rurouni Kenshin situation here.

[justinstrife]

The New VA isn't as bad as I worried about before the first episode aired. He definitely doesn't have the swagger of S1's Anos currently. I'm not going to let it ruin my enjoyment of the show. It is what it is, and the old VA is never coming back.

But there is definitely a difference.

[Cloudedmind]

Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor

Well, as you can see for yourself with the comments that you replied above, even in this very forum where longtime anime-enthusiasts gather, I'm not alone in being okay with Umehara's voice as Anos and not making a big deal out of it. And most casuals also have no problem with it. So Umehara is not really a universal problem or "obvious problem" as some people would like us to believe.

Were's still in episode 1 now and I believe most of us already expressed our opinions on Umehara. My hope is that people can stop ranting about it whenever a new episode comes out in the future because that will truly be repetitive and can derail the conversation from what actually happen in the show. If you want to keep praising Suzuki & bashing Umehara (or vice versa), we have a separate thread for seiyuus. We don't want another Rurouni Kenshin situation here.

Or you could just focus on the stuff you want to discuss and ignore the things you don't. There's literally nothing stopping you from talking about other things that have happened in the episode. You don't have to engage in every conversation point if it's not to your liking.

[frubam]

*peeks to see the latest posts
Oh boi... not surprised about the divide on the VAs, but I hope its short-lived .

[stray]

Originally Posted by frubam

Oh boi... not surprised about the divide on the VAs, but I hope its short-lived .

Depends on how good the season ends up being... if it goes over like Shield Hero S2 it won't do the new guy any favors.

[frubam]

Just watched the episode. It feels like things are moving at a fast pace; I couldn't keep up with all the new characters that popped up.

I enjoyed the short segment with Leno and Shin, even though they barely said anything to each other. Well you don't really need words to tell a story. I wish I could gleam if Leno's warming up to Shin actually affected him; guy is as readable as a brick . If last season's end didn't reveal Lay as being Kanon, I'd have thought that Leno and Shin were Misa's and Lay's reincarnations respectively. I would have liked to know how Anos got a hold of the other girl/spirit/demon, but I guess they are saving that story for another day?

edit: I just noticed the sword Shin uses is the same as belonging to Misa's father shown at the end. If she really is 50% spirit and 50% demon, wouldn't that mean she could be the child of those two?

Is the woman that is about to fight Misha/Sasha the same teacher that got converted into a hybrid in s1?

Nonetheless, as I said, the season is wasting no time getting into the story. Looks like a lot of fights coming right out the get-go. Since Anos is so OP, I like that his opponent is going for a game of "wits" versus the typical 'underestimating him, then getting demolished' scenario Anos is good for. And everyone seems like they're going to have their own battle. Will be looking forward to ep 2 =03.

As far as Umehara, even though I felt he was okay in the trailers, I still had a thought that he might stand out(in a negative way), given the difference in his tone compared to Suzuki. Somewhere in the ep he did his patented GS "Sokka?"(or however it's romanized), which made me chuckle, but aside from that, I barely noticed a difference in his performance among all the other characters and trying to pay attention to what's going on. So as far as his voice, I'll be fine in that regard.

Originally Posted by stray

Depends on how good the season ends up being... if it goes over like Shield Hero S2 it won't do the new guy any favors.

I wouldn't be surprised. SH s2 had some fundamental issues that went beyond voice acting and even char development(I won't get into that here as it might derail topic), so even if that happened here, I don't expect it to be solely blamed on a VA change.

[Strahan]

Ugh new character overload lol. The new guy seems to be fine as Anos, if a little lacking in range. I'd notice more if Melheis is recast. Certain VAs just really stand out to me like Ootsuka Houchuu, Kugimiya Rie, Nakao Ryuusei, Hisakawa Aya, Inoue Kikuko, Koyasu Takehito etc. Several times I pause something to hop on AniDB to look up a char and be like "ahhh it IS him/her!" lol

Given how shady the messenger was for what's-her-face's dad, no way would I not have been in a vanguard position instead of casually letting her get stabbed. Dude practically screams bad guy heh

[Frontier]

It's always awesome to see Anos be OP and beat somebody up, but having him test his mettle in a game of wits is pretty entertaining as well !

The new Opening by Lenny Code Fiction is pretty rockin' and action-packed! We've got Best Parents, NousGalia in both his bodies, Avos Dilhevia, Leno and Shin, everybody getting in on the action, Smol!Anos, and plenty to be execited about this season !

These four arrogant enemies act like Anos' group owe all that they have to the Gods, but they'd rather choose Anos than a bunch of manipulative and jerk Gods! Not that it makes it easier to take these four on .

So confirmation that Leno and Shin are Misa's parents. It's kind of funny to think that her boyfriend actually knew her parents before she did .

Huh, so Sasha and Misha's fused form might have a true name? I wonder what it could be .

Ah, so the game was rigged from the beginning because Ziek had false memories, he was never going to acknowledge if Anos had the right answer for who the Child of God was. Well, that makes sense, but of course nobody really thought Anos would be in danger just from losing his magic. Guy can throw hands with the best of them. And he was tricking Ziek the whole time too. And now he's an owl, so...take that as a grain of wisdom, never challenge Anos .

And the rest of the flunkies learn why you don't pick on Anos' subordinates...you don't mess with Misha's sister, you can't kill the Hero, and Eleonore is very fiercely protective over others and Zeshia. But Misha seemed to really unleash here with that ice Delsgarde !

Anos just casually admitting to building an underground city for the Zeshia's is so Anos .

So Shin is around and has been leading the Unitarian's the whole time, but why not show himself to his loyal master? Will Misa get to finally meet her parents after they visit Althern? Will we finally get some answers as to what's going on ?

The ED is pretty nice and soothing to listen too! Surprisingly focused on Shin and Leno's romance, which is cute, and I guess denotes how plot relevant their relationship (and conception of Misa) was .

[Lex79]

I'm looking forward to see Shin, I just hope they won't do the while "turned antagonist then brought back to his senses after being soundly beaten by Anos" with him too. Especially since if it's true that the child if God is one of Anos' companions he might have to fight one of his allies regardless.

[Random14]

Nice to see Anos is still expanding his knowledge, not that challenging Anos is ever a good idea.

Too bad Sasha lost like that, especially compared to everyone else's fights (where they won on their own). There sure are plenty of plots coming to light, with all the names mentioned. I can't even tell if there is one big plan (with how everyone was split up) or all those other demons are just opportunistic.

Then there's the various mysteries surrounding the main characters. I think Lay might be the only one who is definitely in the clear. Not that any of them seem to be lying to Anos but sounds like a lot of divine intervention has been going on since before his reincarnation.

Well, onto a field trip then, it'll fun to see how Anos will investigate further, between his brute force and foresight. I was wondering what happened to the other 10,000 Zeshias, Anos always looks after his followers.

[Kanon]

Anos and Ziek's little game ultimately felt like a waste of time since it was rigged from the start so Anos would not learn a thing and would lose. Of course, even though he lost, he didn't actually lose and planned ahead. I find it pretty nice that despite already being absurdly OP, he still goes out of his way to learn new tricks. Most would rest on their laurels.

Misa is the child of Shin and Leno. That means she has even more potential than we thought.

So Misha is the child of God? That's what that chick seemed imply. Although I think it's more likely Sasha will also awaken and their fused awakened form will be the child of God. Anos already strongly suspects this is the case. I wonder if the villains are actually aware Anos messed with time to fix them, their intel seemed to be pretty lacking considering the sword guy had no idea Lay was Kanon's reincarnation.

[Frontier]

Originally Posted by Kanon

Anos and Ziek's little game ultimately felt like a waste of time since it was rigged from the start so Anos would not learn a thing and would lose. Of course, even though he lost, he didn't actually lose and planned ahead. I find it pretty nice that despite already being absurdly OP, he still goes out of his way to learn new tricks. Most would rest on their laurels.

Misa is the child of Shin and Leno. That means she has even more potential than we thought.

So Misha is the child of God? That's what that chick seemed imply. Although I think it's more likely Sasha will also awaken and their fused awakened form will be the child of God. Anos already strongly suspects this is the case. I wonder if the villains are actually aware Anos messed with time to fix them, their intel seemed to be pretty lacking considering the sword guy had no idea Lay was Kanon's reincarnation.

I feel like there's a lot to unpack about Misha and Sasha's fused form.

[shmaster]

Good thing they just cut away the confusing part in Zeik's game and move ahead. Smart move. Compress the intro section of the story short to move into the real meat of the story arc quicker.

[Lex79]

If the show is going for maximum drama Misha (and eventually Sasha) being the child of God would be more effective than Zeshia, who is a secondary character, and Misa who is more involved with Lay at this point. Although given the mention about Misa's lineage and Zeshia being a vessel, there is the chance all the girls might be involved in some way.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Nice setup episode. But, like Kanon, I'm also disappointed that the game was a total farce. If you've read my impression of eps 1, the "battle of wits"-game was actually the one I was mostly excited about to see in eps 2. It was fun watching Anos guessing & deducing in the game for a couple minutes but unfortunately, it was all a trick. I would've liked it more if the game was legit and we saw Anos won with his ingenuity and got the irrefutable answer on who the god's child is and get on with the plot. But I guess they still want to keep the mystery.

Also, the guy who baited Misa was really unlucky. He challenged the one person in Anos club who is a natural enemy for his trap: Kanon, who has 7 sources that he can use as spares .

[Wandering Soul]

I do like how Anos doesn't just seem content with his current power and still takes the time to learn more.

[Frontier]

Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor

Nice setup episode. But, like Kanon, I'm also disappointed that the game was a total farce. If you've read my impression of eps 1, the "battle of wits"-game was actually the one I was mostly excited about to see in eps 2. It was fun watching Anos guessing & deducing in the game for a couple minutes but unfortunately, it was all a trick. I would've liked it more if the game was legit and we saw Anos won with his ingenuity and got the irrefutable answer on who the god's child is and get on with the plot. But I guess they still want to keep the mystery.

Also, the guy who baited Misa was really unlucky. He challenged the one person in Anos club who is a natural enemy for his trap: Kanon, who has 7 sources that he can use as spares .

I had honestly forgotten Lay being Kanon wasn't well-known beyond Anos' group .