2012-01-12, 02:29 | Link #19001 | |
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2012-01-12, 03:27 | Link #19002 | |
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I'd say, if there is a vote, it will probably be a choice of basically 3 options: 1. Status Quo 2. Further Devolution within the UK 3. Complete independence (with variants for remaining in the commonwealth, monarchy or becoming a republic). I could see Scottish voters choosing 2, there aren't really many downsides to it. Still, a lot will depend on how media campaign pans out. Everything is to play for. It is somewhat notable that Scotland has a fairly different political profile to England, it has almost no Conservative MPs. It's kind of ironic that if Scotland did leave the Union, Conservative hold in England would be much more solid, and yet the conservatives are fairly bound to oppose such a move due to the nature of their platform. As for Labour, if Scotland left the UK they'd have much lower chances of gaining control in the future, Scotland is a major base of support. |
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2012-01-12, 05:33 | Link #19003 |
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Spain doubles target in debt auction, yields down
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...80B0GQ20120112
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2012-01-12, 05:41 | Link #19004 | |
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Taiwan's other crucial election
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2012-01-12, 09:00 | Link #19005 | |
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US controlled post Cold War trade through their currency, so China is probably attempting to secure major production centres and trade routes to wrest economic power from US. Given the corruption and how messy their government structure is, I would prefer US being the "tyrant". Uncle Sam is a bad guy we know better.
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2012-01-12, 11:46 | Link #19007 |
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Universal Blasts Megaupload in Video Takedown Flap
"Universal Music ripped into Megaupload in a new court filing, declaring it a pirate
site in the label’s legal defense of a suit accusing it of abusing copyright law by forcing YouTube to take down a video of famous musicians and celebrities praising the notorious file-sharing service." See: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...ts-megaupload/ |
2012-01-12, 12:35 | Link #19008 |
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Taliban say Marine abuse tape won't hurt Afghanistan talks
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...80A2D720120112 Is it me or it has to be one other marine than filmed thoses idiots ?
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2012-01-12, 15:18 | Link #19009 | |
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I know a lot of people who voted SNP during the last election because they wanted to push for a referendum, not independence btw, so they can have the whole Scotland independent issue get done with. About independence, I cannot see it happening considering that a lot of voters are not scots. We do have a lot of people from england, northern ireland, wales, the EU and the rest of the world living here, so the outcome it is more a reflection of people living in scotland rather than scottish people. I am pretty sure a lot of people living outside of the urban area would vote for a complete independence, if they don't forget to vote. |
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2012-01-12, 15:39 | Link #19010 | |
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2012-01-13, 00:04 | Link #19011 | ||
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US sends top Iran leader warning on Hormuz threat
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2012-01-13, 00:34 | Link #19013 |
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As far as I know they have not, but those are rather few in number on each ship. Something like 1 or 2 5", 2 x 25mm and maybe 2-4 .50" machine guns. Plus the ones that still have the 20mm Phalanx defense systems.
But that is nowhere near the amount of lead and explosives one would have from even a World War II destroyer for close in work, much less something like a Pre-Dreadnought battleship that was worried about torpedo boats back in 1900. Those things had guns everywhere. It would be sunk by one torpedo or missile today though. One of those old World War II era "Light" Cruisers would be nice. Even the Anti-Air models since they were covered with 5"/38 cal turrets.
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2012-01-13, 00:36 | Link #19014 |
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How would machine guns help? Machine guns were mainly anti-air guns in WWII, when scoring hit often meant downing the plane. The speedboats are small, fast boats, but machine guns are not that effective. Making 50 tiny holes on a speedboat does not necessarily sink it.
We don't know how US navy will respond to the threat. But since they identified the threat 10 years ago, they must have come up with some tactics or technologies to counter it. |
2012-01-13, 00:44 | Link #19015 |
Gamilas Falls
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I'm thinking more about what the US use to use to take down Japanese aircraft. Machine guns are about useless for that, too. 20mm was the practical minimum. 40mm was the general standard that worked and they covered ships with those things when they could. (post war they wanted to replace those with 3" cannon) The gun that worked the best for taking down Kamakaze was the 5"/38 cal cannons, as while the 20mm and 40mm would shoot a plane down, the 5" with proximity shells would explode a plane, stopping it from continuing along its path (which was generally at the ship).
Similar logic works with speedboats. I assume the 25mm cannons and the long 5" cannons are what they use for that now (since the machine guns are mostly to stop things like what happened to USS Cole from happening again, or spraying the decks of pirate ships). The 20mm Phalanx I don't think is designed for that sort of work sicne they have such a high rate of fire...and small magazines. They are to intecept missiles as a last defense. The general idea would to not to fill them with holes, but to make them explode. I have heard reports of the use of lasers to set fuel tanks of fire and the like, but I don't know how effective that would be with multiple targets and a limited amount of time.
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2012-01-13, 00:46 | Link #19016 | |
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2012-01-13, 01:29 | Link #19017 | |
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2012-01-13, 01:40 | Link #19018 | |
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Put a series of those by the port and starboard, 1000 rounds each gun, and they should be able to dye the whole strait red.
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2012-01-13, 01:46 | Link #19019 |
Gamilas Falls
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You have to have them base someplace and in the air when attacked. They can, I assume, be shot down with anti-air missiles from Iran.
Options for basing? A country allied to the United States that is in range of the Strait (the most likely place for an attack). Or on either Aircraft Carriers (taking up space for the usual Air Wing) or the Assault Ships (that sometimes have some, but also utility copters and MV-22s for moving marines and equipment.) Thought he Assault Ships tend to carry Harriers for that duty, only carrying 4 Attack helicopters normally (Ironically, the SeaCobras are also used by Iran...since they still have a few operational that were sold to them in the early 1970s. They use modified AH-1Js as oppose the United States AH-1W and new AH-1Zs)
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