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View Poll Results: Umineko no Naku Koro ni - Episode 5 Rating
Perfect 10 123 45.72%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 84 31.23%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 29 10.78%
7 out of 10 : Good 17 6.32%
6 out of 10 : Average 5 1.86%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 7 2.60%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 1 0.37%
1 out of 10 : Painful 3 1.12%
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Old 2009-08-04, 13:51   Link #441
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^Oi, that article about Schrödinger's cat you linked to explained superposition better for me than the VN did.
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Old 2009-08-04, 15:35   Link #442
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Um...I don't know if this is exactly the right thread.... ^^"

I'm too lazy to read the whole way through, so...I'm probably wrong. I don't know. D=

The only thing I have to say is...
Spoiler for for end scene of ep5?:
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Old 2009-08-04, 18:24   Link #443
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I think we had some even more rocky discussions in the past between VN readers regarding interpretations and theories
Don't make me remember that I lost my time sense many times when I was reading them....
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Old 2009-08-04, 21:41   Link #444
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Im really confused. I had no idea what Beatrice and the other witch lady were talking about? Anyone care to explain?
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Old 2009-08-04, 22:11   Link #445
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Im really confused. I had no idea what Beatrice and the other witch lady were talking about? Anyone care to explain?
You aren't really supposed to understand yet. Wait for the later episodes, and it should start to make sense.
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Old 2009-08-05, 01:24   Link #446
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Having not read the VN, lemme guess:

Spoiler for theory:
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Old 2009-08-05, 08:32   Link #447
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Perhaps yes. Perhaps not. Don't tempt VN players ;p
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Old 2009-08-05, 10:27   Link #448
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going by the strict meaning of the word plausible, it is a plausible theory, like saying that kanon is a girl is also a plausible theory.
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Old 2009-08-05, 11:00   Link #449
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going by the strict meaning of the word plausible, it is a plausible theory, like saying that kanon is a girl is also a plausible theory.
i Know righttt. Kanon has to be a girl >.<! IT would all make sense. He could dress up like beatricee! And then say "wot wot, i thought you were all with maria".

He could also fake his/her death by getting the doctor in on everything too.


I'm telling you...it's the butlers!!
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Old 2009-08-05, 11:24   Link #450
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if I learned somethign from detective novels is that doctors can easily become accomplices, even if unwillingly.
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Old 2009-08-05, 11:25   Link #451
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He could also fake his/her death by getting the doctor in on everything too.


I'm telling you...it's the butlers!!
And whats with Jessica? She was with kanon until he/she died
And of course it's always the butler but which one, we have three
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Old 2009-08-05, 11:37   Link #452
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Jessica could have been either misled by the doctor , or part of the conspiracy.
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Old 2009-08-05, 11:52   Link #453
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'm telling you...it's the butlers!!
I was wondering when someone would say that it must be Genji because the culprit is always the butler. However in this case you could say that the culprit is always the Battler XD
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Old 2009-08-05, 16:59   Link #454
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I like the way that Battler implied that Beatrice was just like Shrodinger's cat. She can only exist if people believe in her. Thru out episode 1 we have been assaulted with events that "have to be done by a witch", seals that appear after events that had to be done by the witch and gold that came from the witch to make us believe in Beatrice's existence.

The events do not have to be caused by Beatrice. It's only the "belief" that Beatrice caused the events that solidifes her existence.


There's no mystery in saying that it's done by a witch. No fun for me. So I choose to believe in a human cause.
Isn't that like Freddy Kreuger? And speaking of slasher flicks, I feel that this has kind of felt like one up until now. I like the tea party idea and the massive exposition that it provides. It gives the characters and the viewer a chance to reflect on what has happened and what is possibly yet to come.

Spoiler for Beatrice and Higurashi:
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Old 2009-08-06, 19:35   Link #455
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And whats with Jessica? She was with kanon until he/she died
And of course it's always the butler but which one, we have three
Easy, she, without much medical background, can only sit back and watch and pray/cry. Then, having had the doctor in on the whole conspiracy, he can just "pretend to try", and then look down and shake his head, and she'll just breakout in tears, and all he has to do is hold her back and just be like "oh poor sweetheart, i'm sorry there's nothing i can do".



Though i was more or so joking when i said it was "the butlers". As someone pointed out, it's "always the butlers" ;P.


And lol @ the "it's the battler" haha...would be a very weird twist
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Old 2009-08-07, 12:28   Link #456
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This was the episode that finally grabbed my attention. Through the first 4 epidsodes I kept thinking this show wasnt as good as Higurashi and it seemed to fall from my expectations, (paticularly in the character department) Finally Beatrice has shown up and Battler has a reason for existance other then rambling like an idiot. Im now really looking forward to the next ark. Hopefully we will get more Berkensteel
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Old 2009-08-07, 12:40   Link #457
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Not only her boobs were stolen but her name was raped as well. Poor Bern-chan. Just joking no offense. But glad to hear that the 5th episode is starting to convience the anime watchers that this show is awesome^^
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Old 2009-08-08, 02:04   Link #458
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Not only her boobs were stolen but her name was raped as well. Poor Bern-chan. Just joking no offense. But glad to hear that the 5th episode is starting to convience the anime watchers that this show is awesome^^
Huh. I almost thought he was talking about Birkenstock
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Old 2009-08-08, 04:03   Link #459
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Not only her boobs were stolen but her name was raped as well. Poor Bern-chan. Just joking no offense. But glad to hear that the 5th episode is starting to convience the anime watchers that this show is awesome^^
At least Yukari Tamura is the seiyu for grownup rik..er... bern
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Old 2009-08-08, 11:55   Link #460
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This was the episode that finally grabbed my attention. Through the first 4 epidsodes I kept thinking this show wasnt as good as Higurashi and it seemed to fall from my expectations, (paticularly in the character department) Finally Beatrice has shown up and Battler has a reason for existance other then rambling like an idiot. Im now really looking forward to the next ark. Hopefully we will get more Berkensteel
haha way to butcher the name ;P, maybe bern will give you a few more chances to get her name right...as therei s that slight possibility that one day you will get it right.
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