Monogatari Series - Q & A

[risingstar3110]

More question: is there a major change between the air version and the blue-ray version? Any site or link plot those changes out?

Found 1, it mentioned about how ep 9 has different animation: http://www.animevice.com/news/bakemo...roadcast/3614/

[Marion]

Originally Posted by risingstar3110

More question: is there a major change between the air version and the blue-ray version? Any site or link plot those changes out?

Found 1, it mentioned about how ep 9 has different animation: http://www.animevice.com/news/bakemo...roadcast/3614/

The difference is in the animation and production values. Fewer black cuts, redrawn images, modified images and whatnot.

[zato_1one]

Originally Posted by risingstar3110

More question: is there a major change between the air version and the blue-ray version? Any site or link plot those changes out?

Found 1, it mentioned about how ep 9 has different animation: http://www.animevice.com/news/bakemo...roadcast/3614/

There are many minor changes (light, shadow, coloring, fix-animation, background etc.) but there are major changes in Nadeko arc (episode 10)

[risingstar3110]

Originally Posted by zato_1one

There are many minor changes (light, shadow, coloring, fix-animation, background etc.) but there are major changes in Nadeko arc (episode 10)

Yeah i can guess that, because ep 10 back then was not really finished.

Btw, is there a reason for the animator to take away Nadeko's hat (in the 4th OP, DVD version) ?

[Kudryavka]

Originally Posted by risingstar3110

Yeah i can guess that, because ep 10 back then was not really finished.

Btw, is there a reason for the animator to take away Nadeko's hat (in the 4th OP, DVD version) ?

The BD had a lot of changes; some were fixes, some just to change things up. Hatless Nadeko was probably done just to be different.

[mammothb]

are all the "unnumbered cuts" removed in the dvd release?

[zato_1one]

Originally Posted by mammothb

are all the "unnumbered cuts" removed in the dvd release?

No. But it has less.

[mastakilla88]

Originally Posted by risingstar3110

Btw, is there a reason for the animator to take away Nadeko's hat (in the 4th OP, DVD version) ?

yes because Hanekawa is using it.

They say it in the preview

[bloppyblue]

So... How can I find Deneb, Altair and Vega in the skies? xD

Any sort of star-searching/pin-pointing site?

I'm in Toronto, Ontario, Canada if that helps.

[zebra]

Originally Posted by bloppyblue

So... How can I find Deneb, Altair and Vega in the skies? xD

Wait till it's dark. Then go outside and look up. From the first star you spot - left, right, up, jump, X and O. It should flash up then.

... don't brick me, it COULD work!

Just wiki it

[peco365]

Originally Posted by bloppyblue

So... How can I find Deneb, Altair and Vega in the skies? xD

Any sort of star-searching/pin-pointing site?

I'm in Toronto, Ontario, Canada if that helps.

This picture is the anticipated figure for the west saw at 9:00 pm

the center of the triangle is called The Summer Triangle (natsu no daisankaku)

From left to right Altair, Deneb, Vega

[Rhythm]

Spoiler for Episode 2 @ around 7:55 or so, question.:

Araragi: You mentioned optimism just now, right?
Senjougahara: Isn't that how it goes?
Araragi: Maybe. But being optimistic isn't a bad thing, is it? It's not like you're doing anything bad.
Senjougahara: Not doing anything bad, huh?
Araragi: Isn't that true?
Senjougahara: That's true. But. It may be considered a form of cheating.
Araragi: Huh?
Senjougahara: Nothing.

What did she mean by a form of cheating? What was she referring to?

[Buddy Waters]

Originally Posted by Rhythm

Spoiler for Episode 2 @ around 7:55 or so, question.:

Araragi: You mentioned optimism just now, right?
Tenjougahara: Isn't that how it goes?
Araragi: Maybe. But being optimistic isn't a bad thing, is it? It's not like you're doing anything bad.
Tenjougahara: Not doing anything bad, huh?
Araragi: Isn't that true?
Tenjougahara: That's true. But. It may be considered a form of cheating.
Araragi: Huh?
Tenjougahara: Nothing.

What did she mean by a form of cheating? What was she referring to?

I'm guessing the translator didn't know either, which is why they translated that word as cheating. By way of comparison, here's how I translated that exchange when I translated the novel:

"Carefree...?"

"I'm not that."

"Maybe. But what if you were?" I said. "What if you were carefree?"

"................"

"It's not a bad thing to be. You've got nothing to hide, after all. Just be confident, like you are now."

"Like I am now?" Senjogahara said, baffled.

Apparently she was unaware just how amazing her performance here had been.

"It's not a bad thing...?"

"Is it?"

"Suppose not," she said. Then, "But I might be hiding something."

"Mm?"

"Never mind."

[Miyuki-ism]

^ That makes a bit more sense. Acting like you are all happy all the time when there is something bothering you.

[Buddy Waters]

Fundamentally Araragi is using a word that isn't quite the word he means, and Hitagi takes the word he uses to mean something else entirely, and says something cryptic that she refuses to refrain, so any translation is going to have to be based on whatever the translator's interpretation of the scene is. I don't actually remember what I thought was going on, but I definitely had a theory at the time.

[Rhythm]

Hmm I think I may understand it a bit more now, I do agree with Miyuki-ism...it makes more sense when you translate it. Thank you.

Also, another thing:

Spoiler for Ep. 11 @ around 10:26:

Nadeko: Koyomi-oniichan, you always follow up on my jokes perfectly! *Starts clapping/smiling*
Araragi: [Heartbeat sfx] *Reaches out towards here face and tries to grab it?*
Nadeko: *Avoids* W-What is it?
Araragi: Nothing... Really....[Heartbeat sfx] *Lifts up her skirt a little and holds it there for a few seconds* *Falls back to wall* I feel like my manhood is being measured when I'm around you.
Nadeko: Hmm?
Araragi: Don't worry about it.

Not sure what this is about exactly.

[Shikijin]

Originally Posted by Rhythm

Spoiler for Episode 2 @ around 7:55 or so, question.:

Araragi: You mentioned optimism just now, right?
Senjougahara: Isn't that how it goes?
Araragi: Maybe. But being optimistic isn't a bad thing, is it? It's not like you're doing anything bad.
Senjougahara: Not doing anything bad, huh?
Araragi: Isn't that true?
Senjougahara: That's true. But. It may be considered a form of cheating.
Araragi: Huh?
Senjougahara: Nothing.

What did she mean by a form of cheating? What was she referring to?

I checked, and the original text is this:

Spoiler for kanji:

「楽天的ねえ」
「そうじゃなくて？」
「かもしんね。でも、いいんじゃねえの？」
　僕は言った。
「別に、楽天的でも」
「…………」
「悪いことをしてるわけじゃないし、ズルしているわけでもないんだから、堂々としてりゃいいんだよ。今みた いに」
「今みたいに？」
　きょとんとする戦場ヶ原。
　自分の器《うつわ》のでかさに気付いていないご様子だ。
「悪いことを――しているわけじゃない、か」
「だろ？」
「まあ、そうね」
　戦場ヶ原は、しかし、そう言ったあとで、
「でも」
　と、続けた。
「でも――ズルはしているかも」
「え？」
「なんでもないわ」

The term in question doesn't mean "cheating", it means "conning", that is to swindle.

Araragi: "It's not like I'm doing something bad, and I'm not conning you[...]"
[...]
Senjougahara: "You are not doing something bad, huh [...] However, you might be conning me"

Senjougahara had met several swindlers before, so she was wary of supposed saviors.

[omimon]

Originally Posted by Rhythm

Hmm I think I may understand it a bit more now, I do agree with Miyuki-ism...it makes more sense when you translate it. Thank you.

Also, another thing:

Spoiler for Ep. 11 @ around 10:26:

Nadeko: Koyomi-oniichan, you always follow up on my jokes perfectly! *Starts clapping/smiling*
Araragi: [Heartbeat sfx] *Reaches out towards here face and tries to grab it?*
Nadeko: *Avoids* W-What is it?
Araragi: Nothing... Really....[Heartbeat sfx] *Lifts up her skirt a little and holds it there for a few seconds* *Falls back to wall* I feel like my manhood is being measured when I'm around you.
Nadeko: Hmm?
Araragi: Don't worry about it.

Not sure what this is about exactly.

She thinks that your forehead is something that you need to protect more than your panties.

[Shikijin]

Originally Posted by Rhythm

Spoiler for Ep. 11 @ around 10:26:

Nadeko: Koyomi-oniichan, you always follow up on my jokes perfectly! *Starts clapping/smiling*
Araragi: [Heartbeat sfx] *Reaches out towards here face and tries to grab it?*
Nadeko: *Avoids* W-What is it?
Araragi: Nothing... Really....[Heartbeat sfx] *Lifts up her skirt a little and holds it there for a few seconds* *Falls back to wall* I feel like my manhood is being measured when I'm around you.
Nadeko: Hmm?
Araragi: Don't worry about it.

Not sure what this is about exactly.

This is explained in the novel, but not in the anime. In the novel Sengoku has the hair covering her eyes, so much that Araragi even doubts she can actually see well. So he tries to touch her hair to test it, but for Sengoku the hair is the "place to guard", so she dodges Araragi's hand with surprisingly quick movements. Then Araragi tries the opposite side, and grabs her skirt. No reaction at all from Sengoku, because she only cares about her hair. Araragi though understands flipping up her skirt is not very manly, so he desists.

EDIT: to be exact, it's the forelocks that she cares the most.

[omimon]

Originally Posted by Shikijin

I checked, and the original text is this:

Spoiler for kanji:

「楽天的ねえ」
「そうじゃなくて？」
「かもしんね。でも、いいんじゃねえの？」
　僕は言った。
「別に、楽天的でも」
「…………」
「悪いことをしてるわけじゃないし、ズルしているわけでもないんだから、堂々としてりゃいいんだよ。今みた いに」
「今みたいに？」
　きょとんとする戦場ヶ原。
　自分の器《うつわ》のでかさに気付いていないご様子だ。
「悪いことを――しているわけじゃない、か」
「だろ？」
「まあ、そうね」
　戦場ヶ原は、しかし、そう言ったあとで、
「でも」
　と、続けた。
「でも――ズルはしているかも」
「え？」
「なんでもないわ」

The term in question doesn't mean "cheating", it means "conning", that is to swindle.

Araragi: "It's not like I'm doing something bad, and I'm not conning you[...]"
[...]
Senjougahara: "You are not doing something bad, huh [...] However, you might be conning me"

Senjougahara had met several swindlers before, so she was wary of supposed saviors.

I've thought about it but it is possible that it's:
Araragi: It's not anything bad, and you're not being conned, after all. Just be confident, like you are now."

Senjougahara: It's not anything bad, [...] However, I might be being conned."