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View Poll Results: Aquarion EVOL - Episode 22 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 6 | 16.22% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 7 | 18.92% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 8 | 21.62% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 4 | 10.81% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 4 | 10.81% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 2.70% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 2 | 5.41% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 5 | 13.51% | |
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2012-05-28, 11:03 | Link #121 | ||
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[1.] Their first meeting is to the movie, and the line of 12,000 years. [2.] Their date (with the rings) has Amata claiming that it was fate for them to meet. [3.] Their date for the movie is... to the movie, and they are even floating up with the characters in the background in an identical scene. When Zessica tells Amata the story, he won't accept it, even if, now in retrospect, its entirely ironic that he's been following said fate even if for reasons other than *because the past said so*. Fighting fate, later? Equally silly. GoldenLad touched on this before but a lot of the message is lost by making Amata=Kagura with no specific distinction between Amata and Kagura aside from fake memories introduces by Mykage. In a completely ironic twist, the one who's actually fighting fate (while blindly following it), is Kagura. He's not meant to exist, he's not meant to have memories of Sylvia, he's not meant to be a person who gets a happy end, yet he tries for it with everything he has because he (as was stated in this episode) refuses to let fate take thing from him. Claiming that Amata is fighting fate with that sort of imagery right behind you is either a misdirection (which has yet to come up if this follow a deconstruction) or expecting your audience to, as Triple_R said, not be taking a lot this very seriously and not really paying much mind to whatever the story supposedly claims. If they actually wanted fighting fate then make Amata and Kagura brothers, make it like Sousei but make Amata normal. Same conflict, but you don't lose the majority of the weight in your supposed message message. Otherwise, this is just silly. Quote:
Aside from Touma, who else can she be at this point? I'd prefer no one to give her love, even if futile, meaning. (Next episode, its revealed she's lolsylviapart2, and I find a desk and plant my face onto it in disappointment.)
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2012-05-28, 11:08 | Link #122 | ||||||
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I do see one wild way out of this though, that at least might be palatable to Zessica fans. More on that in a sec. Quote:
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Zessica was more than that, which is why her handling bothers me a lot more than Kagura's. Quote:
I'm calling quits now on any chance on Amata/Zessica. Like I said, Amata is Mikono-sexual. Those who are shipping Amata/Zessica might as well accept it. But... awhile ago I half-jokingly suggested that maybe Aquarion EVOL will go all Star Wars on us: Izumo is Darth Vader, Amata is Luke Skywalker, and Zessica is Princess Leia (hence why her personal history has been so shrouded; that's the big shocking reveal). This would mean Izumo gets to say "Amata, I am your father!", but it would also mean that Amata and Zessica are brother and sister. Then at least Zessica might be able to somewhat comfortably slide into loving Amata "as her brother". It would also make for a cool, shocking reveal, imo (I'd love to see Zessica's expression at hearing that she passionately kissed her long-lost brother ). Barring something wild like this, it's hard to see how this ends well for Zessica...
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2012-05-28, 11:14 | Link #123 |
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Aside from Touma, who else can she be at this point? I'd prefer no one to give her love, even if futile, meaning. (Next episode, its revealed she's lolsylviapart2, and I find a desk and plant my face onto it in disappointment.)[/QUOTE]
Are you being serious about her being Sylvia part 2? LOL I'll do more than just plant my face on top of my desk (I'll run through my whole neighborhood x 2) just so I can calm down |
2012-05-28, 11:15 | Link #124 | |
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That's what I've been trying to say, you've conveyed it much better than I have. This episode was extreely facepalm worthy because Amata kepy going on and on about wanting to resist fate and destiny against Kagura and Mikono getting together. Which makes no sense because if fate and destiny are to be taken seruously than she's literally destined for Amata and not Kagura who's a fake. So again, why did they even try to shove this down our throats? Is it that hard to admit that yeah, they messed up and Amata and Mikono getting together had nothing to do with fighting fate or destiny and are just meant for each other no matter who gets in the way.
Which doesn't explain why they spent so much time developing Zessica who embodies the whole fighting fate and destiny thing if they planned from the start for her to lose. Seriously, what are they thinking? Writers block? Panic over realizing that they've been contradicting their theme and made Amata into a hypocrite? And why did they degress Mikono and turned her into a glorified trophy? The journey was supposed to be about her actually doing something and becoming useful but this episode she was completely useless and has done nothing but get kidnapped again. Quote:
It seems like Characters in that situation just aren't allowed to pick or settle with just one without dire consequences. They may just merge Amata and Kagura than Mikono and Zessica so they don't have to deal with the mess they've gotten themselves in. Which would only do MORE harm to the characters and negate the whole reason Zessica has been suffering since if she's part 2 than she's destined for Amata anyway. |
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2012-05-28, 11:19 | Link #125 | |
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Plus, the "all-fusion" ending (Amagura ends up with Zessikono) is way too easy an out for Okada, imo. She's not that merciful.
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2012-05-28, 11:24 | Link #127 | |
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WOW...we all have really lost faith in the writers...I'm sure there are reasons why they have written the characters like this and I'm pretty sure the writing would have been done before the animation and have been reviewed over and over again. I have a lot of respect in Kawamori's directing so I'm sure they intended this from the very beginning with good and plausible reasoning. |
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2012-05-28, 11:25 | Link #128 |
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I feel bad for Zessica, even after hearing Amata's confession(Was hard to find since it was buried by all the crude he was spewing about defying fate/destiny when fate/destiny are on his side thus making him look like a moron and a hypocrite) she still wants him to see her love that she has for him in the off chance that he will return her feelings. Unless they salvage things Zessica may very well end up dying after all and worst of all is that Mikono may get both Amata and Kagura anyway through fusion/connection. So really... What the heck writers?
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2012-05-28, 11:30 | Link #131 | |
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2012-05-28, 11:31 | Link #132 |
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I have a feeling that Mykage will put Kagura, Mikono, and Zessica(against her will) on the Legendary Aqauarion. Than from there they may do the lulz "fusion" thing on Amata and Kagura than put Amagura in there. I really hope that isn't the case, it would be too predictable and terrible writing on their part.
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2012-05-28, 11:32 | Link #133 | |
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2012-05-28, 11:33 | Link #134 | |
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2012-05-28, 11:34 | Link #135 | |
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It still makes it horrible since Amata's reaction was pretty terrible, may just be bad writing. The girl nearly died for him and was his first kiss, yet it's just like "Oh you're fine! Cool! Thanks for Unioning and helping me try and get Mikono who I'm totally destined for!".
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That will only work if they fuse Zessica and Mikono together, that way they can say "See, everyones happy!". Than for good measure fuse Andy and Mixy together for the lulz. Than reveal that Andy and Mixy love each other because they're actually destined for each other and were both part of the same person 12,000 years ago and that Mix was always a man in soul! And somehow that would make total sense. |
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2012-05-28, 11:41 | Link #137 |
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Re: Amata's reaction to Zessica's survival.
I don't think he is being cold, it's just a matter of circumstances. They are piloting the vectors and getting ready to Union to fight a Cherubim. It's not exactly the best time to throw a welcome home party. Still, I felt the joy in Amata's voice when he said "Zessica! You're alive!". Haters gonna hate. Re: Mikono being useless again. And what could she do? She was delivered on top of a frickin' tower. She has neither Kagura's agility nor Amata's flying power. The only thing she could do was yell at the both of them to stop fighting. And guess what? That's exactly what she did. Again, haters gonna hate.
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2012-05-28, 11:45 | Link #138 |
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They may try and make him offer a better reaction when they aren't fighting but considering how the writers have been dragging Zessica through the mud I don't think they'll even bring it up again and we'll just have to settle with that as his only reaction.
She could have struggled or even said "No!". Anything, I mean she's been in far more dire circumstances and still struggled than. What makes this any different? Doesn't help that she didn't seem all that worried being in Kagura's arms considering that he just said he wanted to have sex with her over and over again even if it's against her will. |
2012-05-28, 11:46 | Link #139 | |
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True that. Zen could've helped Mikono. He's everywhere, right ? He did carry Crea around couple times
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2012-05-28, 11:46 | Link #140 | |
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