Angel Beats! - Episode 13 (END) Discussion / Poll

[Raiza Sunozaki]

Originally Posted by roankun

Feels like an RPG. :P

BTW, what happened to all the other NPC's? Don't you find it weird that no teacher got mad at them for using the gym without permission?

I was under the impression that The Architect turned them all into shadows, which then got destroyed when the source of the NPC existence, that computer room, was Rambo'd by Yuri. So after all the remaining SSS members ascended, there was no one left in the world except those last five.
Which however, contradicts Kanade's farewell scene, where there some assumed NPCs doing club activities on the field.
So I don't know. Either the five of them somehow restored the entire NPC matrix, or someone in the development department of Angel Beats! (I'm not blaming Maeda this time, as it doesn't really have anything to do with the written plot) had a temporary lapse in common sense.

[kk2extreme]

Ideas for remake:

more details on back stories on all important charaters, especially TK

more band performances, and no more broken story lines.

more GDM!!! <<< this is the most important

[Knightrunner]

Originally Posted by bladeofdarkness

its all about WILL
if they are WILLING to move on, they will be able to move on.
so long as they REFUSE to move on, they will stay in place, even if they have no regrets left.

edit:
just fucking figure out the full implication of it.
Otonashi was sent there for the sole purpose of allowing Kanade to move on.
because if he never showed up, she would forever be stuck there regretting that she never had a chance to thank him.
she even asks him to help her believe what he's always believed
"that living is wonderful"
he's there to set her free.

sniff...
thats so fucking bittersweet

Or maybe Otonashi was their because in the back of his mind he didn't realize the full impact what his organs did for people. Since he was able to realize how thankful the donor was when she recieved his heart his mission was complete. Also your right aout it was Otanashi purpose for Kanade to move on Plus, he stayed because he had a crush on her.

[bladeofdarkness]

Originally Posted by Knightrunner

Or maybe Otonashi was their because in the back of his mind he didn't realize the full impact what his organs did for people. Since he was able to realize how thankful the donor was when she recieved his heart his mission was complete. Also your right aout it was Otanashi purpose for Kanade to move on Plus, he stayed because he had a crush on her.

who wouldn't ?

[Eisdrache]

Finally got around to watch the last few episodes and what the hell was that? Aside from Iwasawa/Yui NONE of the GDM members had their past explained. Sure all of them were side characters (though you could say that about Iwasawa and less about Yui as well) but they were shown quite frequently though they had like less than 10 lines in total FOR THIRTEEN EPISODES. Yes, I call this a huge failure. Yusa ;_;

Anyway not in the mood to rant right now so I'll just say that girly Yurippe is cute :3

[dark998]

Someone seriously believed that the background of +15 characters was going to be explained in 13 episodes? Having unrealistic expectations is a problem of the viewer, not of the show.

I like Yusa and Irie a lot, but their past had no place in the story. Same with TK, Shiina, Takamatsu, Noda and the others.

[HeadlessPony]

Oh my gooood. This ending was hhhhhooorriiiible.

Yuri: Oh hai guyz. I'm going to act completely different from how I normally act because of bad script!

Otonashi: That's fine. :3

Yuri: By the way....Where in the world are all of our friends?

Otonashi: Oh. They disappeared! ^____^

Yuri: That's wonderful!! They sucked! ^______^

Kanade: You sure said it, Yuri! I'm going to act different too! Lets be friendz!! ^_____^

Yuri: You're a sister to me. :: disappears ::

Hinata: Oh you guyz! It was so good, the time spent with all of you! ^______^
::disappears ::

Naoi: YUPPERS. Otonashi-kun, I love y--::disappears ::

Otonashi: Whhhhatever. Now it's just you and me, Kanade! I love you.

Kanade: Wha....Where did that come from?

Otonashi: Bad scripting. But never mind that, lets be together.

[Eisdrache]

Originally Posted by dark998

Someone seriously believed that the background of +15 characters was going to be explained in 13 episodes? Having unrealistic expectations is a problem of the viewer, not of the show.

I like Yusa and Irie a lot, but their past had no place in the story. Same with TK, Shiina, Takamatsu, Noda and the others.

Oh wow. Did you even read the thread? Are you telling me that is was my mistake as well that the content was crammed inside of 13 episode instead of 26 which would easily been possible? If you are answering to posts make sure you are hitting the point, which is not the complaint about 15+ characters being explained in 13 episodes but the complaint that the story was crammed into way too few episodes which left several holes in the story that were never explained.

[Marcus H.]

@HeadlessPony

If you think Yuri never had this attitude, you've never read Track Zero.

Well, it's a nice addition. Chaa being melancholy was justified if you add the info from the novels about him.

[HeadlessPony]

Originally Posted by Marcus H.

@HeadlessPony

If you think Yuri never had this attitude, you've never read Track Zero.

Well, it's a nice addition. Chaa being melancholy was justified if you add the info from the novels about him.

Track Zero is from the light novels? I have never read them before.

But that is why I found it odd that she was acting that way. She went from acting one way throughout the whole series to completely different after making peace with her former life. It is hard for me to think that someone can change their attitude and personality at the drop of a hat. Maybe it was there hidden all along?

[Marcus H.]

I'll give you a clue. Yuri frequently hits Hinata in Track Zero.

[Knightrunner]

Originally Posted by HeadlessPony

Track Zero is from the light novels? I have never read them before.

But that is why I found it odd that she was acting that way. She went from acting one way throughout the whole series to completely different after making peace with her former life. It is hard for me to think that someone can change their attitude and personality at the drop of a hat. Maybe it was there hidden all along?

Well, even without track zero you can assume after turning to an NPC for a while er personality and outlook might change. Her personality different when she was living the NPC life. Then after she completed her mission, resolved her regrets, finding out how life could have been different if she was chasing GOD, and not having to act like they leader anymore would diffinately change a persons personality.

But if you do read the NOVELS they help too. Her personality was definately different in the Novels. Plus the interactions between Hinata and Yurippe were lost in the anime.

Spoiler for Yurripe weapons in the novel:

Double swords

Everybody has to remember the SSS group is what helped people stayed then move on.

[SwiftStrike]

I'd laugh so hard if they had an afterstory
(although what happens after an afterlife?)

it was overall pretty good on a 13ep scale. they should have just developed the 5 people more.

[Xellos-_^]

Originally Posted by Knightrunner

Spoiler for Yurripe weapons in the novel:

Double swords

Spoiler:

didn't she also have a crossbow or was that a regular bow she use to shoot chaa in the head with?

[Marcus H.]

She "borrowed" it from the Archery Club.

[NeoDragon]

Originally Posted by dark998

Someone seriously believed that the background of +15 characters was going to be explained in 13 episodes? Having unrealistic expectations is a problem of the viewer, not of the show.

I like Yusa and Irie a lot, but their past had no place in the story. Same with TK, Shiina, Takamatsu, Noda and the others.

The problem isn't that 15+ characters didn't get explained, its that none of the characters, save yuri, Hinata, Yui, and Iwasawa had their characters explained.

Originally Posted by HeadlessPony

Oh my gooood. This ending was hhhhhooorriiiible.

Yuri: Oh hai guyz. I'm going to act completely different from how I normally act because of bad script!

Otonashi: That's fine. :3

Yuri: By the way....Where in the world are all of our friends?

Otonashi: Oh. They disappeared! ^____^

Yuri: That's wonderful!! They sucked! ^______^

Kanade: You sure said it, Yuri! I'm going to act different too! Lets be friendz!! ^_____^

Yuri: You're a sister to me. :: disappears ::

Hinata: Oh you guyz! It was so good, the time spent with all of you! ^______^
::disappears ::

Naoi: YUPPERS. Otonashi-kun, I love y--::disappears ::

Otonashi: Whhhhatever. Now it's just you and me, Kanade! I love you.

Kanade: Wha....Where did that come from?

Otonashi: Bad scripting. But never mind that, lets be together.

I think its more of a return to a relaxed state, now that she isn't fighting she isn't so uptight.

Besides, the Yui x Hinata was also rushed, and in a 13 episode series, this is to be expected.

[Knightrunner]

Originally Posted by Xellos-_^

Spoiler:

didn't she also have a crossbow or was that a regular she use to shoot chaa in the head with?

Spoiler for spoiler:

I think she used a regular but that is cool how she aimed at Chaa between the eyes to declare a challene stuff they should have put

yurippe sure look cute in the bed scene and it is funny how she said to kanade why are you always bullying me

[Liddo-kun]

I like how it all turned out.
It's a happy ending after all.

*nearly cried while watching the scene where Otonashi hugs Kanade

[dark998]

Originally Posted by Eisdrache

Oh wow. Did you even read the thread? Are you telling me that is was my mistake as well that the content was crammed inside of 13 episode instead of 26 which would easily been possible? If you are answering to posts make sure you are hitting the point, which is not the complaint about 15+ characters being explained in 13 episodes but the complaint that the story was crammed into way too few episodes which left several holes in the story that were never explained.

My post was directed only towards those complaining that "X" side character didn't get his/her own episode or not enough screentime. There are a lot of similar comments across the thread.

Wanting 26 episodes instead of 13 to flesh out better the arcs (Naoi, Hinata and Yui, Programmer), that's ok.

[newbie461]

Originally Posted by Eisdrache

Oh wow. Did you even read the thread? Are you telling me that is was my mistake as well that the content was crammed inside of 13 episode instead of 26 which would easily been possible? If you are answering to posts make sure you are hitting the point, which is not the complaint about 15+ characters being explained in 13 episodes but the complaint that the story was crammed into way too few episodes which left several holes in the story that were never explained.

Well I guess my wall of text on page 18 was ignored ;^;

It's not your mistake that the characters were not explained, but it is your mistake to think that they could have done 26 episodes. If they could have done 26 episodes, I'm pretty sure they would have. Look at Kanon and Clannad. They even did remakes. If they could have done more episodes, they most likely would have. Be it financial problems or lack of story (this is based off a one volume light novel mind you, little room to work with), there are reasons why they did not do more. Luckily they explained the main characters and a few side characters. Main: Otanashi, Kanade (somewhat), Yurippe. Sides: Hinata, Yui, Iwasawa. Did I miss any? >_>