What makes a good anime

[Blueberri]

I came up with this idea now and decided to throw it out there. What do YOU think makes anime good or popular? Is it the action, the story development, or character interaction? Obviously, it's all three, but I don't want to be one sided. So I decided to find out what you guys think about quality anime.

[Ryonea]

IMO, it's pretty much the same as what makes a good film or movie, except that this is animation, so the visual style and voice-acting needs to be taken into account too. Good character development, decent plot, good voice-acting, and good animation.

Hmm, I think I've seen an opinion somewhere that anime-watchers tend to be divided into 2 types:he ones who focus on the flow of the story, and the ones who focus on characters. and of course there are people who focuses on both.

^ I think that assumption is made based on a common problem with an anime consisting of 2 seasons, where the 1st season has more story, and the 2nd one has more drama and characterization. (ex: Code Geass, Gundam 00, K-ON!)

[ddwkc]

Popular: sell-able premise, half-decent marketing, and somewhat decent direction.

Good: Consistence and excellent direction probably will produce good animation, respect to character and setting, good plot flow, and so on.

[Sister Princess]

I would say:

-Know how to make "topic"
-Keep people intrigued
-Good scripts
-Have a direction from beginning and maintain it
-If you're not going to be serious, DON'T EVER TRY TO BE SERIOUS

[roriconfan]

We have similar topics about this here
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...ght=what+makes
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...ght=what+makes

[Tsuyukusa]

How to Create an Anime Tsuyukusa will Love

Avoid pointless fanservice: Fanservice is fine, I understand many people love it. However, a character should contribute more than a pair of massive breasts.

Don't allow your characters to become stagnant: I guess this one speaks for itself. Characters should grow through out the series. It becomes very boring watching a character lame everything up over and over again.

Pay attention to the scenery and character design: I suppose this one isn't as important as the plot or character development, but it's a big one for me. Brilliant artwork can really draw me in. Some anime look so crisp you can almost feel the sunlight on your shoulders. It isn't necessary, but I appreciate it all the same.

Don't depend on cliches to be humorous: If I see one more "BOOBINTHEFACE OMFG!!!" scene I'm going to beat myself in the face with a hammer.

[Blueberri]

Originally Posted by roriconfan

We have similar topics about this here
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...ght=what+makes
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...ght=what+makes

In the forums I've been in, posting in old threads is a taboo. And I believe there should be a balanced amount of everything in a anime. From romance to action to serious matters. Too much just might kill it for most viewers.

[Vexx]

Necromancy is a-ok here if it keeps the information/discussion in one place.

After noting I've never found 'good' and 'popular' to overlap 100%, Tsuyukusa's guide lines are an excellent start.

[NhocCuteGirl]

IMO, it's pretty much the same as what makes a good film or movie, except that this is animation, so the visual style and voice-acting needs to be taken into account too. Good character development, decent plot, good voice-acting, and good animation.



Hmm, I think I've seen an opinion somewhere that anime-watchers tend to be divided into 2 types:he ones who focus on the flow of the story, and the ones who focus on characters. and of course there are people who focuses on both.



^ I think that assumption is made based on a common problem with an anime consisting of 2 seasons, where the 1st season has more story, and the 2nd one has more drama and characterization. (ex: Code Geass, Gundam 00, K-ON!)

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[roriconfan]

Originally Posted by Ryonea

^ I think that assumption is made based on a common problem with an anime consisting of 2 seasons, where the 1st season has more story, and the 2nd one has more drama and characterization. (ex: Code Geass, Gundam 00, K-ON!)

You are mostly wrong as sequels are mostly cashcows with far less context and far more fanservice. All three shows you mention have that.

Originally Posted by ddwkc

Popular: sell-able premise, half-decent marketing, and somewhat decent direction.

My version is Popular = easily digested, full of fluff and extremely simplistic and polarized characters doing the most obvious and expected thing in the end.

Originally Posted by ddwkc

Good: Consistence and excellent direction probably will produce good animation, respect to character and setting, good plot flow, and so on.

Don't forget the plot holes and the absense of obvious pretense.

Originally Posted by Sister Princess

-Know how to make "topic"

???

Originally Posted by Sister Princess

-Keep people intrigued

A good looking trailer is enough for that.

Originally Posted by Sister Princess

-Good scripts

Quite minor detail (see Twilight, Avatar)

Originally Posted by Sister Princess

-Have a direction from beginning and maintain it

That is important for sequels.

Originally Posted by Sister Princess

-If you're not going to be serious, DON'T EVER TRY TO BE SERIOUS

Not too obvious pretense I presume?

Originally Posted by Tsuyukusa

Avoid pointless fanservice: Fanservice is fine, I understand many people love it. However, a character should contribute more than a pair of massive breasts.

Correct if fan service contributes and doesn't overlap everything else. Total absense is a minus as well.

Originally Posted by Tsuyukusa

Don't allow your characters to become stagnant: I guess this one speaks for itself. Characters should grow through out the series. It becomes very boring watching a character lame everything up over and over again.

True but most shounen fans (Gintama, Reborn) don't mind (I agree shonens are very average to the most part).

Originally Posted by Tsuyukusa

Pay attention to the scenery and character design: I suppose this one isn't as important as the plot or character development, but it's a big one for me. Brilliant artwork can really draw me in. Some anime look so crisp you can almost feel the sunlight on your shoulders. It isn't necessary, but I appreciate it all the same.

Same as fan service above.

Originally Posted by Tsuyukusa

Don't depend on cliches to be humorous: If I see one more "BOOBINTHEFACE OMFG!!!" scene I'm going to beat myself in the face with a hammer.

Not quite wrong but parodies are fine as long as we don't have too many, too close to one another (currently we do and it is annoying)

Originally Posted by Blueberri

And I believe there should be a balanced amount of everything in a anime. From romance to action to serious matters. Too much just might kill it for most viewers.

I disagree. A show can be good without being 10% comedy, 10% drama, ect 8 more categories of just 10% each.

[Ichuki]

Good plot
Not to many fillers
Character development
No gag that gets old easily
Not relying on too much fanservice

[Ryonea]

Originally Posted by roriconfan

You are mostly wrong as sequels are mostly cashcows with far less context and far more fanservice. All three shows you mention have that.

I'm only stating my view, bro coz that's what I see in many forums with fans arguing about those two aspects.

[RandySyler]

Two words:
Quality and
Opinon

[Zotis]

Content and polish usually have more sway in making something popular. But for something to be good it needs realism, attention to detail, and passion.

[RandySyler]

Remember, realism isn't always in the visual aspect though. Lucky*Star and claanad werent perfectly drawn (especially L*S), but the realism comes from the characters and situations.

[TooPurePureBoy]

Like any good story it should have a bit of originality, consistency, and good dialogue. Start from there and you really can't go wrong unless you try to.

[0utf0xZer0]

Originally Posted by roriconfan

You are mostly wrong as sequels are mostly cashcows with far less context and far more fanservice. All three shows you mention have that.

And just how does K-On's second season have more fanservice than the first?

What fanservice season one had came largely from the girls playing to particular moe archetypes, season two significantly reduces this kind of service in favour of developing the girls into more rounded characters. It's the most noticeable change between the seasons aside from the impact the girl's impending graduation has on the show's mood, and one of the reasons season two is easily the better of the two seasons.

[Zotis]

Originally Posted by RandySyler

Remember, realism isn't always in the visual aspect though. Lucky*Star and claanad werent perfectly drawn (especially L*S), but the realism comes from the characters and situations.

Exactly, it's ridiculous when the dialog in an anime is nothing like any two people would ever talk to each other. Or the characters can go around in these important roles, but if they were thrown into the real world they wouldn't survive a day as a ship captain or a military general. There's nothing wrong with unrealistic anime when that's the intention in a caricaturistic way. There just isn't any adult content or intelectual depth to an anime that's primary characteristic is that unrealistic caricaturism and fun light hearted childishness. Let alone dialog that makes sense and interesting character goals, ambisions, or growth. Even in a cartoon like Peanuts, or Transformers, there's a lot more depth to the dialog and plot of each episode. Even simple things can be very good or very bad.

[Master_Yoma]

Fanservice and Lolicons that all you need for a good anime

[roriconfan]

^ Not for long if that Youth Bill comes out.