2012-10-22, 10:13 | Link #3581 | ||
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Your forgetting that the Starchild is very old so logically speaking he has eons upon eons of evidence that points towards it. Plus, as the Levaithans who are pretty much the apex in organic species noted, whenever their subjects created synthetics, no matter what, the synthetics ended up destroying them. Then you add in Javik and his experiences. So yes regardless of what we see in Rannoch, Bioware has more or less established that there will always be conflict between organics and synthetics. It's a shame because Shepard could've used the quarian vs. geth thing to show otherwise but they didn't bother with it at all. To Bioware, it would only be a matter of time before conflict erupted between the two (I mean Tali notes how the Geth were uploading into their suits....doesn't that sound familiar to what happened in Javik's era?) Quote:
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2012-10-22, 18:33 | Link #3582 |
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There will always be conflict between synthetics and organics, for the same reason there will always be conflict between organics and other organics. Different ideology. Different interests. Expect conflict. So Starchild is right about that part.
The point is whether they can resolve it or not. And this is where Starchild shows he a crazy and defective. Starchild believes that the conflict can never be resolved, and organics will always lose. So his solution was essentially to kill all organics before they are killed by synthetics and archive them in Reaper form.... what? And during the process, Reapers go out of their way to be as horrific and traumatizing as possible. It's clear where his bias lies. Remember that he's more advanced than an AI. And once you get into that level of individuality, you develop prejudices and preconceived notions
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2012-11-07, 23:19 | Link #3588 |
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The Leviathan DLC basically states outright that the blue god kid (and the Reapers by extension) are functionally insane because they're trying to solve a problem within the scope of their programming, using methods that go against their programming, while attempting to stay within the limits of their programming.
It's a very Asimov-alike twist. Reminds me heavily of I, Robot, and the Cogito-infected AutoReivs from Ergo Proxy. So no, Bioware does NOT say that synthetics and organics are always doomed to kill each other. The Reapers say that, while doing exactly that. They are an extant embodiment of a paradox. This also makes the Control ending probably the best possible ending, because Shepard (who is clearly not insane) takes the place of the paradoxically-insane Catalyst as the governing intelligence of the Reapers. Edit: Really like the look of the female Turian. She doesn't even have any trace of what humans would refer to as feminine traits, so Bioware did a good job avoiding anthropomorphizing her. Unless she has boobs. That would be almost as dumb as female Argonians in the Elder Scrolls.
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2012-11-08, 07:56 | Link #3590 |
Tastes Cloudy
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I see bumps, not boobs and that could easily be the outfit.
I just want some garrus and her dialog and her be the Turian he shows his reach on. XD Better job they did on her than Tali =\ Fuck you bioware.
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2012-11-08, 22:40 | Link #3591 |
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Someone's gone and made a happy ending mod http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/to...dex/14795358/1
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2012-11-08, 23:32 | Link #3592 | |
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2012-11-09, 00:43 | Link #3594 | |
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2012-11-09, 06:05 | Link #3595 | |
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Yes, I know I played him for 3 games and he deserves a happy ending... but somehow I totaly like his (seemingly) sacrifice in the end. Oh, and no EDI in the end. But yay for no Star Child! @FlareKnight: Or you just watch the YouTube videos instead.
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2012-11-09, 15:33 | Link #3596 | |
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2012-11-09, 17:45 | Link #3597 | |
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2012-11-09, 21:24 | Link #3598 |
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I agree, that even the Extended Cut ending is mostly fine, just the deus ex machina kid should have simply been replaced with a less jarring representation of the Reapers' collective intelligence. The Leviathan DLC actually makes the EC ending make a lot more sense, since the Reapers themselves are essentially a Logic Bombed AI that's gone completely whacky, so their whole "organics vs. synthetics" thing is a symptom of their insanity.
Leviathan's story plus the EC endings (specifically Control) basically saved ME3 for me. Synthesis is still stupid space magic, and Destroy is still nonsensical, but at least Control is a satisfying ending with the Leviathan plot points added, since the Reapers are repurposed, Shepard's mind replacing the insane Catalyst and having them serve a better purpose (either one of collective understanding of life as a Paragon Shepard, or one of ruthless defense of life as a Renegade Shepard).
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2012-11-26, 17:32 | Link #3599 |
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Apparently... The Omega DLC is tomorrow. I wasn't even following when it would be released so it kinda snuck up on me. But I'm surprised it's being released so soon, I was expecting it to be in mid December. But anyways, a trailer.
http://youtu.be/28UgSPUkAss In an interview (from another video) it was stated that your usual squad mates won't be selectable, only Aria and a female Turian are usable during the entire DLC. Also, the DLC is approximated to be 4 hours long, but I guess that's depends if you know where you're going and know what to expect from battles. |
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