2008-10-04, 12:51 | Link #921 |
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Well, it's over. The fact that Pokota and the other furry will probably be back next season is problematic. Couldn't they have just made Ozel the semi-permanant addition to the group? She might have had something unique to offer, while providing something nice to look at.
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2008-10-04, 23:39 | Link #924 | ||
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I agree with everything you say =] glad to see some people here that aren't afraid to knock off their shows even though they love it (who else would watch SR? NEW PEOPLE? HAHAHAHAHA) Quote:
Anime is suppose to evolve, but nowadays there are so many studios who just add a little sparkle and make a product even crappier than their past works. There's so many examples throughout this series, but if you actually need an example, then you are probably very easy to please. |
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2008-10-06, 14:40 | Link #927 | |
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let me tell you something why do people say try was bad try was as goos as the other seasons dude they have the freaking dark lord darkstar and the darkstar weapons were cool anyway about revolution i must say that i dint like zanafar but it did give us more info on him how he was made but i would have put the other remaning generals like deep sea or beast master or dynast i would like to see them or what the heck ahat about deadfod or caotic blue i would like to see those guys what do i think of this season well i like it zanafar was there better that nothing i really hate the replica sword of light i would like to see the blacksword anyone that say this season was bad well it do not lie slayers i must say for people seen slayers for the same time i would have been good if the have put in a flash back from when they figth the copy rezo zanafar |
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2008-10-07, 22:16 | Link #931 |
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Heck the 2nd half of the first season was pretty random and draggy...so all in all Rev is not that bad.SO maybe they are doing it in reverse to season 1 have the first half the random draggy bit and the 2nd half the better less draggy and random half.
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2008-10-07, 23:24 | Link #932 |
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I don't know, no matter how I cut it Revolution feels the worst of all the seasons. I did re-watch all of them before this one got started so its all pretty fresh in my head. The 2nd half of the first season did have some random and draggy stuff, but they didn't take that long to get where they needed to go and it picked up the seriousness quickly. Will see how they do with the second half when it airs, but expectations are a lot lower than they were when I first heard about Revolution.
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2008-10-07, 23:38 | Link #933 | |
Incoherance is my friend!
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Next and Try did keep their pace up and didn't drag as much, but all in all Rev is only a bit more draggy only because of Wizer draging down the eps :P Rev S1 is as bad as the worst archs and eps from Slayers TV 1-3 which is not "that" bad but the rest of Rev needs to be better hopefully they have all the introductions and dumb stuff out of the way as so they can focus on the story and character dev... if not and they keep to bad jokes and randomness it will suck big time. Edit I watched it all a few months ago maybe last year and mew dino kitty brains is finally catching up with what went where, I forgot that the Copy Rezo arch was the final of Slayers S2.. that was in Next but that starts with Martina the dragons more or less.
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2008-10-10, 07:26 | Link #934 | ||
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First season of Slayers is godly because it was the FIRST SEASON. And guess what? I don't remember much about the random draggy part of slayers, I know how it FELT, but the main stuff that I remember was much more epic than SR. The whole feeling of WOAAHHH is not in SR. Here's a real analogy. Slayers to Slayers Try had the feel of a Zelda game. Woaaahhh it's time to fight Ganondwarf. Woaahhh it's time to save Hyrule. TREES ARE BURNIN. Slayers Revolution? HEY MARIO GO SAVE THE PRINCESS. JUMP MARIO JUMP. GOGO DUKE IT OUT WITH BOWSER. Sure, are both titles for kids? Yep. Does one have a much more EPIC atmosphere while the other has a "QUE MARIO THEMESONG" feel to it? YEP. Quote:
Like put it this way, if the current power rangers season (or if there even is one LOL i dunno) made cameos and references to the past, it'd be okay right? Even cool right? Yes. Now what if they made cameos, references, and jokes and gags of the past for over 60% of the show? Uhhhh NOOO? Same with any series. The past is the past. Fresh material is needed. |
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2008-10-10, 07:39 | Link #935 | |
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Even so I found some bits here and there of S1-3 to be annoying Rev has a bit more annoying spots mainly it feels like its paced all wrong there's not enough seriousness to balance the gags and the gags are reaching its fine to have 1-3 gags now and then but lining up 3 sets there of and try to make a gag out of everything... It might be bad by today standards but almost sadly it is what it is a gag based fantasy comedy randomness is almost to be ecspected.
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2008-10-10, 10:20 | Link #936 | |
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The fact that it was paced wrong already means the effort level is horrible. You pretty much just agreed with what I said. Yeah, expected. Ummm so say I generally expect generic companies or in fact, any companies including the one doing Halo Wars to spawn a shitty RTS that doesn't matter to me because they are all the same damn thing, does that mean my standards are going to hold the same for Starcraft 2? No, because Starcraft 1 was BEYOND the expected standards. It BROKE the standards, and MADE new standards. Such a product's sequel should never be using it's OWN STANDARD a decade from now. That is how Slayers is in the anime world. Sure it's definitely not as successful as just an anime, but as for a FANTASY anime, or maybe a Fantasy Parody anime, it was far and wide WAYYYYY better than anything in it's time. Shit was either too damn serious, or was too damn stupid. Slayers was very well done in balancing the two. Then again though, it seems Japanese products like Mario, or it's other proven nintendo products along with stuff like Square Enix just continue the Slayers Revolution trend of just doing enough to get by. But hey, even these companies do enough that the new games are better than the old ones. Hopefully season 2 will allow SR to place itself into the same league as the trilogy (though I never thought Try was as good as the first two) Seriously, from a artisan point of view, if you want to make an impact, a long term investment, doing it the Blizzard way is the way to go. Quality first and foremost. Doesn't have to be perfect (cause god knows how LOL WoW is), but it has to be polished enough. Perfect examples are Code Geass and 00. And look at R2, they made it to #1 on AniDB. That's huge, and not something that's just passed around like hot potato. |
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2008-10-13, 20:32 | Link #938 |
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Somewhat related, now that Revolution is over...
Do you love Slayers? Do you want to help make English subs for season five a reality? The fifth season, tentatively titled Slayers GLORY is scheduled to begin in the first quarter of 2009. We need more: • translators • quality-checkers • typesetters • encoders • subbers This is essentially a labor of love, and we each work around our respective schedules. The more people that we have helping us, the less work involved for everyone - and the better quality subs we'll be able to put out! The incentive? More Slayers for everyone, of course. ;D Slayers fans don't go down without a fight, let's make this happen! Interested parties may contact Mina Inerts at revolutionin09ATgmail.com. NOTE: please feel free to delete this if applicable. |
2008-10-14, 06:47 | Link #939 | |
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In defense of SR and to praise the Slayers franchise in general
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Now what actually did evolve over the last 10-15 year and which standards can we expect an anime to have or even to break? First we have to distinguish between evolution and going from fad to fad. The Slayers characters look about as 90s as can be. If that's not your cup of tea, OK. But I prefer staying true to the original over a complete revamp that leaves us with a modernized bishoujo Lina that looks as if she has just escaped from Clannad. (Dirty Pair -> Dirty Pair Flash anyone?) And even if someone disagrees with me, this would hardly be an example of "reaching new standards" in any objective way. Now, Animation has clearly evolved because it is computer-aided nowadays. At least, it is potentially better nowadays. CG also give you the possibility to make your anime look ugly in a 1000 new ways. But SR did very well in that department compared to many other shows. Prety much everything else did not evolve over a decade. Like storytelling. This would be a ridiculous claim since stories have been told for millennia. The 90s weren't the middle ages and if an 90s anime sucks in the storytelling department from our POV then only because it already sucked back then. Same goes for characterization, "gags and jokes" and whatever. Anime has indeed evolved and not only in the animation department. IMO, Slayers is outstanding among the mid 90s shows and SR, while keeping the quality, is only a great current show among other great current shows. But certainly not because humanity's standards are miraculously higher now. It's because anime had to crawl out of that bottomless pit defined by the late 80s, early 90s trash OVAs that sucked by any standards. Certainly by my own, now and then. So bottom line, Slayers was a great lighthearted action comedy back then and Slayers Revolutions is now. I didn't expect any BREAKING OF STANDARDS in all caps. I'd rather question my own standards instead. And if anything was "milking the cow" then the generally poor Slayers movies and OVAs.
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2008-10-14, 07:12 | Link #940 |
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I won't discuss anime standards, but concerning the "epic feel"... I have to side with MooMooFarm: it's gone. Even the characters feel it. In S1, they were all "OMGWTFBBQ, we're doomed! And the world with us! But we'll still fight." In SR, it was more "Eh, whatever. We've done it before."
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