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BPHaru · 2009-08-11, 03:16

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Nanoha's Prince :

Kyaa Fate-chan~ ♥
Thanks or the pics Nina.
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Takamura Mamoru · 2009-08-11, 05:14

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All the way from lawful to chaotic... that's quite the change. What prompted it?

Someone pointed out that Gil Graham was actually doing illegal things, so he could hardly be Lawful Neutral. To be honest, I don't really know where his alignment is. If someone can name me a better holder of that alignment, I could kick Graham out completely.

I moved Agito to Lawful because she was pretty much just tagging along with Zest, having unbreakable loyalty. That loyalty transferred to Signum because Zest said so.

Zest fits Neutral better than Chaotic Neutral imo. He could be both, but he wants to stay out of everything and just talk with Regius before he dies.

The Wolkenritter are rather difficult. I'd say, before Hayate they were Lawful Neutral, just doing what their master said. For Hayate, they went Chaotic Good because they disregarded her orders for the sake of doing what they though was right. That's pretty Chaotic Good. It's hard to say what they are in StrikerS, either Lawful Neutral, Lawful Good or maybe Neutral Good.

Signum strikes me as more Neutral, though. However, I should mention that the Wolkenritter on the Alignment Chart are supposed to be the A's Wolkenritter, not StrikerS.

Hayate is definitely Lawful Good.
Nobody in StrikerS is Chaotic Good. They can't work in the military and be chaotic good. They don't even disobey orders. Subaru and Teana made some mistakes for what they think they had to do, but that alone doesn't make them chaotic.

al103 · 2009-08-11, 05:47

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They don't even disobey orders.

They don't disobey them. They EVADE them. Rank limit? Count with limiters on please. "There is no reason for panic so no AMF training for bureau troops, all is under control, it's just fluke"? It's not training of bureau troops, it's students visiting they old teacher/it's help to father of one of our forwards with training his battalion... And so on. Maybe they are no Chaotic bunch, but definitely not Lawful. Warring NG in all it's glory.

Soljashy · 2009-08-11, 06:25

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"Ready for ze charge, Herr Doctor!"

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You will forgive the businessman for not being up to date with modern hairstyle terms.

Triple_R · 2009-08-11, 07:07

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Someone pointed out that Gil Graham was actually doing illegal things, so he could hardly be Lawful Neutral. To be honest, I don't really know where his alignment is. If someone can name me a better holder of that alignment, I could kick Graham out completely.

Graham's an interesting character, and very influential in Nanoha A's. So, I can certainly see why you thought of putting him in there.

However... to make your neutral line quite nice and fitting... an argument could be made that Lutecia was chaotic neutral. Like your chaotic good (the Wolkenritter) and your chaotic evil (Precia), Lutecia was totally possessed over one particular cause, and created a lot of chaos because of it. And then, all of your neutrals are part of a three-person team that often worked together.

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I moved Agito to Lawful because she was pretty much just tagging along with Zest, having unbreakable loyalty. That loyalty transferred to Signum because Zest said so.

Zest fits Neutral better than Chaotic Neutral imo. He could be both, but he wants to stay out of everything and just talk with Regius before he dies.

I agree with these shifts. They made a lot of sense to me.

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The Wolkenritter are rather difficult. I'd say, before Hayate they were Lawful Neutral, just doing what their master said. For Hayate, they went Chaotic Good because they disregarded her orders for the sake of doing what they though was right. That's pretty Chaotic Good. It's hard to say what they are in StrikerS, either Lawful Neutral, Lawful Good or maybe Neutral Good.

Signum strikes me as more Neutral, though. However, I should mention that the Wolkenritter on the Alignment Chart are supposed to be the A's Wolkenritter, not StrikerS.

Hayate is definitely Lawful Good.
Nobody in StrikerS is Chaotic Good. They can't work in the military and be chaotic good. They don't even disobey orders. Subaru and Teana made some mistakes for what they think they had to do, but that alone doesn't make them chaotic.

Great points... although I would say that Vita is Neutral Good leaning chaotic (barely kept in line, you could say), while Signum is arguably Lawful Good at this point.

Actually, one thing I liked about the Star and Lightning teams was how Star's team was made up of very free-spirited people while Lightning's team are very orderly and lawful from top to bottom.

BPHaru · 2009-08-11, 11:23

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"Ready for ze charge, Herr Doctor!"

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You will forgive the businessman for not being up to date with modern hairstyle terms.

Thanks a lot for the translation, Soljashy!
Nanoha's prince~~
I'll see if I have time to edit it later.

Also, I'm taking this chance to see if you want to translate this one too:

(I don't remember if it was posted by Nina here I if I got it from a blog)

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Nanya01 · 2009-08-11, 13:18

Found one... Just too cute to not post up.

Sensual, not exactly SFW, but nothing explicit...

At least, not nothing explicit in terms of shown skin...

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BPHaru · 2009-08-11, 15:29

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"Ready for ze charge, Herr Doctor!"

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You will forgive the businessman for not being up to date with modern hairstyle terms.

Edited!

Our site will be back soon by the way, and we'll come with some consecutive releases when we bring everything back. We lost our old domain, so we're moving to nanofate.us.

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Nanya01 · 2009-08-11, 15:46

Just saw that before coming here, Haru.

No comment on the pic I found?

itanshi1 · 2009-08-11, 20:30

sfw? no that appears pretty NSFW, lactation maybe, not my thing at all

Soljashy · 2009-08-12, 02:17

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Some married couple fluff for you nano-bunnies.

Kikaifan · 2009-08-12, 04:01

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The Wolkenritter are rather difficult. I'd say, before Hayate they were Lawful Neutral, just doing what their master said. For Hayate, they went Chaotic Good because they disregarded her orders for the sake of doing what they though was right. That's pretty Chaotic Good. It's hard to say what they are in StrikerS, either Lawful Neutral, Lawful Good or maybe Neutral Good.

Signum strikes me as more Neutral, though. However, I should mention that the Wolkenritter on the Alignment Chart are supposed to be the A's Wolkenritter, not StrikerS.

Hayate is definitely Lawful Good.
Nobody in StrikerS is Chaotic Good. They can't work in the military and be chaotic good. They don't even disobey orders. Subaru and Teana made some mistakes for what they think they had to do, but that alone doesn't make them chaotic.

I think Signum is still lawful neutral. I always felt like compared to the other knights she kept some distance from Hayate and absorbed her values a little less. All the other Wolkenritter changed a lot going into StrikerS, adapted to their new lives, but Signum's only extensive lines in the beginning of StrikerS are that conversation with Vice where she goes on about how she's stuck in the past and can't relate to modern people or methods. She can be protective of others and has capacity for self-sacrifice which usually flags a character as good but since she likes fighting so much and killed Zest without any hesitation as a matter of honor I keep her in neutral.

Vita I'm tempted to call chaotic good because she's originally kind of impulsive and rebellious, but when she mellows out a bit after A's and loses that huge chip on her shoulder she becomes really good-natured. She talks about the Midchildans lacking good military discipline but at the same time she acts the most informally of the knights. I don't really know what you're supposed to do with alignment when behavior and beliefs are in conflict so I'm not very sure about this one.

Shamal and Zafira frankly don't get enough screen time to be easy to call. Most of what you see of them is their loyalty for Hayate, so it's easiest to call them lawful good, but I feel like it's cheap just to go off that.

Reinforce I'd peg as true neutral leaning lawful evil as the Book and solidly lawful good post-naming.

Takamura Mamoru · 2009-08-12, 09:02

All familiars are Lawful Neutral.
I mean, Zafira even said to Arf he'd do what his master says even when he thinks it's wrong and that Arf is the same.

And yeah, Signum is more Lawful Neutral as well.

Soljashy · 2009-08-12, 09:12

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BPHaru · 2009-08-12, 11:21

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Some married couple fluff for you nano-bunnies.

;_;

Thanks Soljashy!
That was great.
I'll see if my friend who is going to edit this into Spanish wants to do the English version too ^^

Off Topic/Fast Request: someone notified us that can't access our new site www.nanofate.us. Please click the link and tell me if you can't load the page. Thanks in advance and sorry for the problems.

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Fate21 · 2009-08-12, 11:22

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Thanks a lot for the translation, Soljashy!
Nanoha's prince~~
I'll see if I have time to edit it later.

Also, I'm taking this chance to see if you want to translate this one too:

(I don't remember if it was posted by Nina here I if I got it from a blog)

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If I remember correctly, waistcoat is the one who post this.
Btw, thanks for the editing BpHaru

and Soljashy for the translation

Kirika-chan · 2009-08-12, 13:26

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Off Topic/Fast Request: someone notified us that can't access our new site www.nanofate.us. Please click the link and tell me if you can't load the page. Thanks in advance and sorry for the problems.

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I can access it ^^
It's just one page no? If it's that, then yes, no problem.

BPHaru · 2009-08-12, 15:12

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I can access it ^^
It's just one page no? If it's that, then yes, no problem.

Yes, it's just something I put there instead of a blank page while we got everything back.
Thanks for the reply.

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BPHaru · 2009-08-12, 16:50

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Some married couple fluff for you nano-bunnies.

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These look cute too:

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Translations would be appreaciated as always ^^

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Nanya01 · 2009-08-12, 16:55

Thank you, Haru, you are most awesome with those edits.

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Takamura Mamoru The Hawk Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Berlin, Fatherland	All familiars are Lawful Neutral. I mean, Zafira even said to Arf he'd do what his master says even when he thinks it's wrong and that Arf is the same. And yeah, Signum is more Lawful Neutral as well.