2009-11-06, 16:43 | Link #121 |
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If Whitebeard is supposed to die by the end of this battle, then Blackbeard not appearing to have a share in that glory would be an unexpected event. And if he appears, that may create many options for him, such as, him attacking both sides, or falling under WG command temporarily. If he had finished his job at Impel Down, he should be arriving there soon.
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2009-11-06, 17:16 | Link #122 |
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Just some random thoughts about how the Pirates may get a chance to escape :d
Wbs goes on serious killing(=beating)spree until he encounters Sengoku, who puts up a good fight, but gets trashed eventually. From that point the real chaos will break loose - with the marines leader unable to command his troops and some more twists (e.g. arrival of revolutionaries, former Roger Pirates, BB, other strange Shichi movements etc.) a couple of capable marines characters (garp, admirals, tsuru) will try to fill in that spot, resulting in multiple smaller marines forces with close to none coordination (that may also a important part due to the different approaches and goals of garp, aokiji, akainu etc.). The resulting chaos should be more than enough to let escape whoever Oda wants to escape... On a different note: why isn't WB long-range-quaking the marine formations up? He clearly showed that he had the needed range and power by scattering the waves, and the needed accuracy by scattering Aokiji at the very beginning. I know, it wouldn't be that fun for us readers, but to me it surely looks like on more illogical battle decision... |
2009-11-06, 18:02 | Link #124 | |
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On the other hand, the Marines and World Government are suppose to be the upholders or peach and justice. They actually have a reputation to lose with the public. How are you seen as the keepers of peace if you are exposed as starting a war? All these breaks are irritating, because I want this whole arc to com to a finale and reunite the crew.
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2009-11-06, 19:26 | Link #125 | |
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About the whole Blackbeard thing: I admit I was also one of those who thought it would be fitting for Teach to land the final blow on old Newgate, but.... my views changed after witnessing the events that took place at Marineford so far. Now I think it would be more fitting for Blackbeard to witness Whitebeard's death from afar, perhaps at just a good enough distance for Whitebeard to catch a glimpse of him as he takes his last breath. Then after the old man dies, Teach will take a nice big bite of cherry pie as he lets out a hearty "ZEHAHAHAHAHA!!!"
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Yeah, that's another reason why Moria's one of my favorite villains.... he's proven himself to be one of the more expressive characters in the series so far. Pretty impressive IMO, when you consider that he was only introduced a little over two years ago. |
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2009-11-06, 19:32 | Link #126 |
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We'll see how valid this excuse is when we see Whitebeard go all out in the subsequent chapters. Rayleigh is no longer in his prime either and yet he was able to hold off Kizaru. I would expect more from Whitebeard given his title of "Strongest Man in the World" and that he was the only one to have ever fought on equal terms with Roger. It's true that he's in a deteriorating and weakened state right now (especially after suffering a severe stab wound from Squado), but the fact that he's about to unleash his full power in a relentless assault on the marines should somewhat compensate for that deficiency. .
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2009-11-06, 19:38 | Link #127 | |
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For instance... Whitebeard manages to knock sengoku/aokiji/whome-ever down to the ground; he goes in for the final strike but then Blackbeard uses his darkness fruit to pull him back. The sudden jerk effectively stops Whitebeard's attack and leaves him wide open for his opponent to get in the final strike. And that's when you have Whitebeard look back on to Teach, acknowledging that HE was the one who dealt the true final blow, though others may not realize it frankly i feel it fits BB's character... Too keep low key, too keep people guessing his true strength... He doesn't need the glory of killing WB, he just needs him out of the way |
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2009-11-06, 22:02 | Link #128 | |
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Not expecting that to happen as there are quite a bit flaw in that idea imo but it would be interesting I believe that aspect of Teach has changed, that was before he got the Yami Yami Fruit. After he obtained he is finally showing his true color and trying to gain some kind of higher status. Though I am still curious to know what is his method, it could still be trying to stay on the low key but being the Shichibukai means fame around the world so I incline to think other wise.
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2009-11-06, 22:39 | Link #129 | |
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While that's an interesting idea, I still think I prefer the idea of Blackbeard manipulating events from behind the scenes without the need to get his own hands dirty. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Blackbeard was the one to tell the marines about Squado..... after all, Teach was part of Whitebeard's crew for quite a long time, so he could have given the marines a LOT of inside info about the inner workings of Whitebeard's "family". In fact, the whole ordeal with Squado was probably what Blackbeard was referring to at Impel Down when he talked about a show that would "rock the world"...... |
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2009-11-07, 01:16 | Link #130 |
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I think the fact that BB mentioned shocking the world would imply that it isn't something subtle, so not only would the war be the most fitting place for it (since it's a huge event and he said in a few hours and it's been atleast an 1hr and 30 mins so it would fit the time frame that he hinted at) but killing WB would be the most fitting action to do just that. I wouldn't be surprised if BB brings cameras from ID in order to make sure his actions are seen.
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2009-11-07, 05:56 | Link #131 |
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Just finished reading the chapter, Squado's betrayal and his reasons were actually very well thought out and believable. It was better than all the spy theories at least.
I think buggy's being frozen is a sign that the next few chapters will be alot more serious and not have the kind of focus on humor like the previous chapters have. What more can be said about Whitebeard's speech? It was emotionally impactful, an expression of everything he has stood for and i cant wait when he tears the WG a new one next we- OH SNAP. |
2009-11-07, 08:23 | Link #132 | |
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2009-11-07, 13:04 | Link #134 | |
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Blackbeard would be one... what exactly IS stopping him from just sucking everyone up into a blackhole? Kuma is definitely one such character now... He has been reduced to little more then a machine and thus can't really make decisions for himself; as such he is attacking with mercy or second thought... Now why doesn't he just start sending people flying like he did to the strawhats? One hit from him and even Whitebeard would be sent flying... and unlike sending the strawhats to islands, he could just land him in the middle of the ocean and let him drown... Before we could say Kuma was choosing not to use it, but now that he's been stripped of his free will, he has no reason NOT to use that power. Boa is kinda of another, she says that no one can resist her and thus will be turned to stone, but then why isn't she doing just that? especially with the peons who would be even less resistant... t's not like she's holding back to avoid petrifying marines... i mean for stronger characters you could try to argue that they are resistant enough to her charms, but according to her Luffy was the first man she ever met that could do such a thing; as such she would still be TRYING to use it (before realizing that Luffy isn't the only one) Seems like kind of a plothole to me... |
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2009-11-07, 13:32 | Link #135 |
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^My guess is that Oda (and in effect, the characters themselves) realize that with great power, comes great responsibility. They simply know better than to abuse the abilities they've acquired, that's all. For instance, it was already established that Whitebeard's DF power is destructive enough to destroy the world, right? But you don't exactly see him causing an earthquake with every step he walks. Besides, there would be little point in him being called the king of the sea if there were no living person on the planet to recognize him as such.......
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2009-11-07, 14:31 | Link #137 |
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Nice little chapter. I'm sure white beard will kick major butt next chapter and in the end ace and white beard leave this battle alive. It's way to early to kill of either of them. Their's alot white beard can contribute to the progression of the story.
but i'm ready to see luffy's nakama. i really miss them and am wondering how their going to meet up again.
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2009-11-07, 15:18 | Link #138 | |
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As for Hancock, she is used to men immediately fawning over her and for guys like Smoker to not do so I think she realized the futility of trying the mero mero beam here, plus it would be boring if all she did was spam it. Also I figured WB couldn't just spam quakes because Ace was cuffed with kairouseki and if he just quaked MHQ like mad he could accidentally kill the guy he came to save along with the marines. |
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2009-11-07, 15:56 | Link #139 | |
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And those fodder guys were probably already dead but just Oda's style that keeps them half alive.The same style also prevents Kizaru from beam kick killing everyone in world less than a second and Whitebeard from destroying the world. |
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2009-11-07, 16:07 | Link #140 |
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A lot of things are exaggerated in One Piece. Take Kuma's pressure cannon for instance. Kuma claims it uses air that travels at the speed of light. This is obviously not true though, since Zoro was able to dodge 100 pressure cannons (in a weakened state, mind you) and we know that Zoro is no where near as fast as the speed of light. If Kuma's claim was really true, Zoro should have died back at Thriller Bark.
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