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Old 2013-04-27, 13:42   Link #2481
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That part was my favorite scene, that scene was one of the reason why i liked Kotori despite being an Ayana Taketatsu jerk imouto character, now if they cutted the sister war scene i'd be beyond furious...
MAYBE, they are retconning that scene for the end of Kurumi's arc? (praying)
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Old 2013-04-27, 14:57   Link #2482
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Date a Live episode 5.........

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They also cut Tohka pushing Shidou down on her bed and then kissing him for 10 seconds!! One of my favorite Tohka scenes.
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Old 2013-04-27, 15:04   Link #2483
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yea they skipped a lot of funny stuff at least they kept this
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Old 2013-04-27, 15:16   Link #2484
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They also cut Tohka pushing Shidou down on her bed and then kissing him for 10 seconds!! One of my favorite Tohka scenes.

Ohh yeah that part too!! >.< and the one piece dress Yoshino is wearing at the LN illustrations were much cuter than the current ones at the anime imo...

I believe they wouldn't cut Sister Wars. If they did this means war..
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Old 2013-04-27, 15:21   Link #2485
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Its sad but I'm getting used to this.

For example Index's vol.2 was enough to fit 5 episodes. Yet it was made in 3 episodes, the excluded the alchemist's clone that gave half of the character background.

They didn't cut the part were Kotori begs Shido to not go.

Why would they make an original episode? Maybe they wanted a breather episode...
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Old 2013-04-27, 15:35   Link #2486
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Its sad but I'm getting used to this.

For example Index's vol.2 was enough to fit 5 episodes. Yet it was made in 3 episodes, the excluded the alchemist's clone that gave half of the character background.

They didn't cut the part were Kotori begs Shido to not go.

Why would they make an original episode? Maybe they wanted a breather episode...
Wow do they at least show she does really care about him, because that is sort of plot critical.
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Old 2013-04-27, 15:45   Link #2487
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Wow do they at least show she does really care about him, because that is sort of plot critical.
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Old 2013-04-27, 15:58   Link #2488
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Its sad but I'm getting used to this.

For example Index's vol.2 was enough to fit 5 episodes. Yet it was made in 3 episodes, the excluded the alchemist's clone that gave half of the character background.
So? Does the alchemist even crucial for the plot? Okay so the anime removed something that would makes him more sympathic but he's just a minor character while Yoshino is one of the heroine of the franchise and the anime removed a big part of her background

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They didn't cut the part were Kotori begs Shido to not go.
The problem is they still cutted the more important scene for her character development

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Why would they make an original episode? Maybe they wanted a breather episode...
Or they just don't care
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Old 2013-04-27, 16:09   Link #2489
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So? Does the alchemist even crucial for the plot? Okay so the anime removed something that would makes him more sympathic but he's just a minor character while Yoshino is one of the heroine of the franchise and the anime removed a big part of her background
Yes, he was the main antagonist of that story .

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The problem is they still cutted the more important scene for her character development.

Or they just don't care
If they didn't care even the animation will have a drop down like those from studio Pierrot do after the first episode.

Like I said, if there is the issue about contents fit in the anime, this goes to the scriptwriter who is the same who did Hidan no Aria's script.
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Old 2013-04-27, 16:17   Link #2490
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Yes, he was the main antagonist of that story .
Sure he's a main antagonist for that volume but that's it, he's still a minor character, he's not necessary and important to Index plot.
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Old 2013-04-27, 16:21   Link #2491
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Sure he's a main antagonist for that volume but that's it, he's still a minor character, he's not necessary and important to Index plot.
Despite Yoshino is a spirit it doesn't makes her relevant at all.

She basically has random appareances here and there in some volumes.
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Old 2013-04-27, 16:23   Link #2492
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Yes, he was the main antagonist of that story .
But out side of that volume I think his name only comes up maybe twice in the 28 other volumes and that was only in refernce to someone else haveing worked with him at one time he is just about the only person in the seires that just kinda vanishes. the volume is so non plot critical that the manga just skips it.

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Despite Yoshino is a spirit it doesn't makes her relevant at all.

She basically has random appareances here and there in some volumes.
The same could be said for Kurumi
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Old 2013-04-27, 16:25   Link #2493
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But out side of that volume I think his name only comes up maybe twice in the 28 other volumes and that was only in refernce to someone else haveing worked with him at one time he is just about the only person in the seires that just kinda vanishes. the volume is so non plot critical that the manga just skips it.
The manga also skips Vol.4 which is god damn important to the whole plot to the point Kogino Chuya regrets it, the decision was done by his higher ups and nothing could be done abou it.
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Old 2013-04-27, 16:26   Link #2494
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Despite Yoshino is a spirit it doesn't makes her relevant at all.

She basically has random appareances here and there in some volumes.
Difference:

-Alchemist: No one cares about him, and only appears in 1 volume
-Yoshino: Heroine that actually matters and has actual character developmen, sure she isn't as relevant as Tohka or Kotori but she definitely is much more important and loved then some lolicon alchemist antagonist that anyone could easily forget after 1 or 2 volume

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The same could be said for Kurumi
In Volume 7 she plays a major role, and she is very important as a first spirit that is actually evil
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Old 2013-04-27, 16:31   Link #2495
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Difference:

-Alchemist: No one cares about him, and only appears in 1 volume
-Yoshino: Heroine that actually matters and has actual character developmen, sure she isn't as relevant as Tohka or Kotori but she definitely is much more important and loved then some lolicon alchemist antagonist that anyone could easily forget after 1 or 2 volume
- Various things from vol.2 are very relevant since those are the basis for God's Right Seat's goal and Gremlin's leader methods from New Testament.
- The alchemist is 18, 15 years on his flashbacks.
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Old 2013-04-27, 16:42   Link #2496
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Difference:

-Alchemist: No one cares about him, and only appears in 1 volume
-Yoshino: Heroine that actually matters and has actual character developmen, sure she isn't as relevant as Tohka or Kotori but she definitely is much more important and loved then some lolicon alchemist antagonist that anyone could easily forget after 1 or 2 volume



In Volume 7 she plays a major role, and she is very important as a first spirit that is actually evil
My point was just because Yoshino hasn't done anything doesn't mean she isn't importent and unlike the alchemist she doesn't just disapear.

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- Various things from vol.2 are very relevant since those are the basis for God's Right Seat's goal and Gremlin's leader methods from New Testament.
no pretty much the only major thing that comes out of that volume is the thing in Touma's right hand. Neither the basis for God's Right Seat's goal or Gremlin's leader methods are related to that.
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Old 2013-04-27, 16:43   Link #2497
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- Various things from vol.2 are very relevant since those are the basis for God's Right Seat's goal and Gremlin's leader methods from New Testament.
Aren't we discussing about the alchemist character and background?

I don't read the LN but by relevant i hope you don't mean something that only matters because it hints of something that happens later, as long as the cutted event itself doesn't really matters than it really doesn't matters in the end

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- The alchemist is 18, 15 years on his flashbacks.
...So? What's your point?
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Old 2013-04-27, 17:08   Link #2498
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My point was just because Yoshino hasn't done anything doesn't mean she isn't importent and unlike the alchemist she doesn't just disapear.



no pretty much the only major thing that comes out of that volume is the thing in Touma's right hand. Neither the basis for God's Right Seat's goal or Gremlin's leader methods are related to that.
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If you read the novel you will know that the method of purifying the soul in order to reach a superior order comes from the alchemist methods. The same method is used by GRS in order to cleanse themselves from the sin and obtain angelic bodies and powers.

Vol.2 also talks about micro and macro theories that Othinus from NT uses to create the holistic esper. The whole point of New Testament' current antagonist's mission is that.

Its not just some little hints.

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If you are talking about the invisible thing, the anime missed it but it heavily implies the dragon from Touma's arm wasn't made up by Aurelus as Styil suggest but from Touma's own arm, he only gave it a physical form.

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Aren't we discussing about the alchemist character and background?

I don't read the LN but by relevant i hope you don't mean something that only matters because it hints of something that happens later, as long as the cutted event itself doesn't really matters than it really doesn't matters in the end

...So? What's your point?
Izzard was exactly the same age and character Touma was before his memory whip.

Its relevant because Aureolus Izzard is what Touma would have become and could be if he failed(or fails) to save Index.
Both are similar to the point of sacrificing everything for the sake of those who needed help but only one could win against fate while the other failed but didn't give up.

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Old 2013-04-27, 17:11   Link #2499
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They also cut Tohka pushing Shidou down on her bed and then kissing him for 10 seconds!! One of my favorite Tohka scenes.
It's one of my favorite scenes too but there's a chance they'll put it and all the other more important stuff they cut out of Tohka's arc into the filler ep next week. And even if it didn't go back in I can live with it. I have some educational experience storyboarding so I know how painful it can be to scrap scenes you wanna put in so badly but can't because it'd make the whole thing too long. So maybe I'm just more used to these sorts of omissions than most people.

And after five eps of non-stop plot it might be a good time to take a break.
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Old 2013-04-27, 17:26   Link #2500
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It's one of my favorite scenes too but there's a chance they'll put it and all the other more important stuff they cut out of Tohka's arc into the filler ep next week. And even if it didn't go back in I can live with it. I have some educational experience storyboarding so I know how painful it can be to scrap scenes you wanna put in so badly but can't because it'd make the whole thing too long. So maybe I'm just more used to these sorts of omissions than most people.

And after five eps of non-stop plot it might be a good time to take a break.
Screw the break, if they wanted a break, they should have taken one week without broadcast rather than a episode with pure filler without reason.
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