2013-09-08, 13:44 | Link #24501 |
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well, it is not like alucard will give them a year to train and one of the three lords alone shouldn't be able to destroy him . Moka and her sister don't seem to be of great help. The only way i see to get rid of Alucard is for moka's dad to appear or for tsukune and moka having a powerup together.
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2013-09-09, 02:33 | Link #24502 | ||
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And once he comes out of his rampage he'll realize just how many people he's killed in the process and then take his own life as penance. It's simply not in his character to shed innocent blood for any reason, and especially that of his friends. As bludevin already said, he'd be no different from Alucard, something that must be avoided at all costs. That only depends on if Alucard is completely defeated in this last arc of Season II, and I highly doubt he will. Rest assured, regardless of how he's thwarted here, he'll be back. As for why people think it's necessary for him to harness such power, it's because nothing less will completely destroy Alucard. He'll just keep regenerating and coming back for more. And it'd be foolish to believe he'll acquire such power at this juncture. Quote:
And... seriously? He rampages to that extent, and nothing will bring him out of it. Nothing. No matter how you slice it, a berserk rampage is still a berserk rampage. And Tsukune would never be able to live with himself afterwards, it's not in his character. And as bludevin already stated, check the facts. Alucard is the oldest and strongest vampire in existence, empowered by thousands of monsters; while Tsukune is still struggling to master his own power, and I can assure you it won't happen in this arc. That's no assumption, that's just the cold hard facts. If you're expecting him to do otherwise, again you'll be disappointed. And then some. |
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2013-09-09, 03:45 | Link #24503 |
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I'll try to address the main points:
His lock has been renewed/repaired multiple times already. I just don't buy anymore that breaking it cannot be fixed once again. Same with Moka's rosary. We also got two dark lords who are specialists in this matter right at the scene. Again, we don't know how strong Tsukune's modified hybrid form is as much as we don't know how strong Alucard really is. Touhou Fuhai thought he could easily kill Tsukune in his berserk form and was in for a surprise. Also, Tsukune is not alone, 2 dark lords + his friends are there to possibly create an opening. About his berserk form, Kurumu and Touhou Fuhai already managed to pull Tsukune back once. If he hurts someone he doesn't want to hurt in the process and feel guilty about it than that would actually make for a good plot and give him some much needed depth as MC. He doesn't have to kill anyone for that. And yes, I basically don't think Ikeda is above asspulls at this point given the pacing of dispatching major figures in quick succession lately. ____ You guys' expectations in Ikeda's writing compared to mine is pretty much what this discussion comes down to it seems. We'll have to wait and see if yours are justified. For me this arc has lowered my expectations quite a bit already so it's hard to be that disappointed anymore, which is why I always presented possiblities instead of absolutes (difference in wording). |
2013-09-09, 04:05 | Link #24504 | |
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Because I haven't seen the Holy Lock being repaired at all, since the time that Tsukune has received it ... and I haven't seen any development that even implied that something like that happened. |
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2013-09-09, 04:58 | Link #24505 | |
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2013-09-09, 11:40 | Link #24507 | |
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After all, doubt that Tsukune's seal removal technique, isn't a youjutsu technique, but actually some kind of modification that has been put into his Holy Lock - judging from the runes that appear, whenever Tsukune removes one of the seal's that are implanted into the Holy Lock. |
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2013-09-09, 13:35 | Link #24508 |
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Ah, I see...
The Holy Lock before was breaking, but now Tsukune is releasing the seals instead of them being broken. It's a slight difference between having something broken and something repaired. Although, I wonder how Tsukune's Alu-Form came out while the Lock was in place...probably the stress of the body being that mutilated thanks to the Human Mod technique was enough to draw enough of the Shinso power into keeping him alive rather than pouring all the power into fighting.
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2013-09-14, 12:27 | Link #24509 |
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Men, just want to post because i'm one of those who didn't want to lose Outer Moka here, even it is good for the story, i hope Ikeda can make a reasonable come back for Outer Moka, like Akasha back to save Outer Moka.
Just my 2 cent, i just thought the Bus driver is actually Issa. I think it fits the story well, since he is the one around Tsukune/Moka, maybe he is just disguise himself as bus driver to protect Moka from distance.
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2013-09-14, 21:05 | Link #24513 |
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I still feel that Outer Moka is actually Moka's mom. Their resemblence and actions are way too similar for her just to be a persona from the rosario. Maybe with the rosario gone it'll wake her mother as well.
SUPER BUS DRIVER-SAN! I'm more interested in seeing what hes going to do compared to the priest.
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2013-09-14, 23:04 | Link #24514 |
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Its not surprising that there would be similarity, as Omote was created by Akasha. She might have even used her own personality as a template...but there are differences all the same. Plus even more importantly Omote obviously doesn't have any of Akasha's skills or memories.
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2013-09-15, 00:43 | Link #24515 |
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The one thing i'm assure why Outer should come back were because one of Outer Moka last word are "I don't want to be disappear" and Kurumu&Mizore feeling for her when they are beaten by Aqua before "although the personality is fake, but the feeling they have each other is real". I believe Tsukune cs will somehow find a way to resurrected Outer, and it will be something to do with Moka's parent esp Akasha since the rosario were made by her.
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2013-09-15, 01:16 | Link #24516 |
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^ Maybe, but if Outer Moka is going to return she won't be in the same form that she had, before the Rosario has been broken / destroyed by Alucard.
The reason is obviously, because Inner Moka needs to have access to her Shinso powers, and learn how to efficiently use them, and the Rosario prevents that from occurring, and the second reason is because of the title of this manga, which might suggest that some sort of union of the Rosario (Outer Moka) and the vampire (Inner Moka) is going to occur . |
2013-09-15, 03:21 | Link #24517 |
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Because Otome is basically Akasha's creation and clone, maybe when she come out and find out that the rosario was destroyed, Akasha will tell Moka (Ura): "Rest assured, it's ok, I will give you a new one" and take out another rosario, just like how they have bunch of spare Ayanami Rei in Evangelion.
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2013-09-21, 17:26 | Link #24519 |
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So holdup I just telling me that outer moka is dead and finally after all these months Tsukune kisses her but he kiss her when she's about to die!! What kind of crap is that!!! Unless she's not really dead or she may come back alive somehow
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