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The annoying fact about fixed length effects is that they kind of "overide" themselves, so yeah, I don't think one can do it without really separating the syllables. I think the selector per syllable may work and would be ok to work with, but one would have to code it ^^. Quote:
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2008-05-20, 17:08 | Link #382 |
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Nah, it's not really improved yet, it's only got the inverse effect selector #1. I've gotta ask him to do some fixes. Once I find the time to ask him, I'll share it, of course ;D
I was asking that because (I think it was you, dj_tjerk) I got this .aep. It contains a few layers and two huge expressions. The romaji is contained in one, only one sentence, but the effect is with a fixed length. With your permission, dj_tjerk, I'm sharing it so you can take a look and solve the mistery. http://www.sendspace.com/file/4cbfwo |
2008-05-21, 01:43 | Link #383 |
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Yeh.. that's that expression selector (i think still bugged, though i fixed little things many times after that). And the big disadvantage is that you have to paste the opacity/size/whatever into that animator, and that you can use the expression selector just once (since it's pointing to a certain null layer with sliders).
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2008-05-21, 10:08 | Link #384 |
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Take a look at this:
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if (textIndex == 1) { if (time < 1.05 + timeShift) { amount = 0; } else if (time >= 1.05 + timeShift && time < 1.05 + timeShift + timeUp) { amount = 100 * ((time - 1.05 + timeShift)/(timeUp)); } else if (time >= 1.05 + timeShift + timeUp && time < 1.05 + timeShift + timeUp + timeDown) { amount = 100 - 100 * ((time - 1.05 + timeShift + timeUp)/(timeDown)); } else if (time >= 1.05 + timeShift + timeUp + timeDown) { amount = 0; } } else if (textIndex == 2) { if (time < 1.31 + timeShift) { amount = 0; |
2008-05-21, 10:42 | Link #385 |
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As i said.. that's a script generated expression yes.. and the expression wasnt flawless.. i guess it still isnt.. but it works. Ofcourse I'm still looking for ways to do that thing better, or to make working with it easier (like.. a function or something.. i donno). Keyframe style 5 starts at line 977 (almost at the bottom) in this script, if you wanna look at how it's generated.. Still think Adobe should implement something like a 'fixed length' selector though, just for us kara people :P
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2008-05-21, 18:47 | Link #387 |
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Well, I did a sample in 15 minutes, I think it's what you want to do...
1 second before the syllable is sung, position -40 and opacity 0. http://naru.easynetonline.net/yaoith..._length_01.avi Didn't do the whole sentence, though, too lazy. And if it's what you want, I'll provide the aep and you code it yourself, i'm not bothering myself with that unless someone wants to pay me for all the hard work
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2008-05-22, 00:34 | Link #388 |
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I'd be very glad if you can provide me this .aep ^_^ The fact is, I want to do in AFX things that can practically only done in SSA. Why? Dunno, don't ask me why, I just want to be different. Once I get my new laptop I'll share with you my presets, which are not many, but some of them are cute
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2008-05-22, 07:45 | Link #390 |
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HAH, I made that sign using mask... Right now, I favor over keying. (About 80% or more of the signs I made involve keying, and about 30% of the signs are mixed [mask + key] - mixing them gives the best results)
Simple Color Keying Tutorial: 1. Precomp all the layers you created/typesetted. 2. Duplicate the bottom video layer 3. Move that layer to right above the precomp, and check on SOLO button, so that you can observe only the top video layer. 4. Add Effect: Keying->Color Keying (Color Range would work too but it gives less degree of freedom to tweak) on the top video layer; depending in the situation, you can choose other keying... The common keyings I found useful in anime are: Color keying, Color Range, Luma Key (for light sources and fogs), and Difference Matte (for known static images). 5. Under Color key effect, handpick the color of the hand or the object, and tweak it... I'd set edge feathering and edge thin too because of the border colors. 6. Duplicate that effect and change the color key to the hand shadow color instead... You can add more effects to make the keying better like simple choker, etc. 7. Finally, set track-matte to Alpha Matte for the typesetting layer/precomp. Alternatively, you can color key the background paper... Also remember to take care of the shadow colors while you're at it; they get annoying from time to time. This time, use Alpha Invert Matte instead. -- Sample Work: http://pichu.org/stuff/tosho03_title.png - Luma Key for fogs and bricks http://pichu.org/stuff/moyashimon_logo_demo.avi - Color keying for separating the germs out, and Color keying + mask for hiding the logo behind the balls towards the end (mask the white one since it's too close to the background color, white). Last edited by pichu; 2008-05-22 at 08:12. |
2008-05-22, 08:15 | Link #392 | |
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Then again, I take advantage of both all the time. -_- And, I think the hand moves or twists too -- I can do keying for that scene in under a minute. Animated masking requires precisions, hence taking a much longer time.. Also, I think the person is asking an alternative way of doing it without masking as you noticed about his expression when saying 'mask' :/ Last edited by pichu; 2008-05-22 at 08:31. |
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2008-05-22, 10:52 | Link #393 |
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Meh... I usually try keying first, but I've had many many many cases where it didnt work.. even difference keying doesnt always work.. And for goodlooking stuff (but very time consuming), masking is the way to go :P (or a mix, like if certain parts are/aren't visible.. just remove/add those with a mask.
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As for that... what's the point of copying the whole thing ? Try to be more artistic, you've completely broken the composition of the title by doing that.
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2008-05-22, 13:49 | Link #395 |
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Seperate selectors is one way to do it yes.. but the whole reason i ever made an expression is because i thought i could link the 'amount' of a new expression selector with say, position and color changes, to the amount of the expression selector that had that script generated expression.
I never had problems with linking expressions to properties that already have expression applied to them, so i wasnt that wrong in thinking that'd be possible.. I just guess the amount property is special~ (/me looks angry at people at Adobe) I guess it should be somehow possible to make an expression that links to a variable amount of script generated range selectors, however, i don't think that's one's idea of 'simple and easy'. Also, for za noobs in here (that want to use keylight of course), it's included in After Effects CS3, and the bugfix patch is freely available at The Foundry's site. The amount of changeable settings in keylight scared me off though, guess i should read into it >_> |
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2008-05-22, 15:15 | Link #397 | |
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Maybe your expression works, though.
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2008-05-22, 15:37 | Link #398 |
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coded or not.. it's about the ease of use after that.. now you can say my 'expression selector' and your range-selector per syllable have the same ease of use, sort of.. You can't just copy that animator to every other layer, because then the timing is way off..
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2008-05-23, 01:19 | Link #400 | |
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But do tell me what do you want, since I've never used any of the scripts before As for syllable per layer, I can't really make it based on the existing scripts; they'll be more work than writing my own from scratch. Note: .ass-style karaoke. Last edited by pichu; 2008-05-23 at 01:48. |
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