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Originally Posted by Nanya01
Triple_R, think about Chrono in the movie... He got shafted because of a few things, like how he sealed his emotions up at age 3 and it NEVER got addressed again (really, what was the point of bringing it up?),
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Isn't it obvious that Chrono is a
highly unemotional kid? He's DAB's answer to a 10 year old Bruce Wayne. You don't need Bruce Wayne to go on at length over how much his parents' death affected him. It comes through almost every scene he's in, given his personality. Much the same is true of Chrono. Simply leaning what happened to Chrono's father in this movie says loads in and of itself.
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that's why Chrono is the way he is..."
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Kaijo thought up some good ideas how to handle that, ask him. Not to mention his stupidity for not telling his mother about the fact that he was working on the Book of Darkness case.
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Maybe he was scared that he'd lose his one remaining parent if he brought her into it. And that's a risk he wasn't willing to take, unless pressed on it by Lindy herself.
I've going to be very frank here - A lot of you guys focus way too much on the purely intellectual side of things. On pure pragmatism and logic. Nobody truly lives purely by pragmatism and logic. Emotions greatly influence people, shake people, and cause people to make questionable decisions at times.
That's why I don't have anywhere near as much problem with how the Wolkenritter acted in this movie as some do. And it's also why I could roll with Chrono's actions.
This movie had tremendous emotional poignancy in my view. I completely agree with Demi there. I don't find it that hard to understand why these characters made the decisions that they did.
Expecting fictional characters to never make mistakes, or act recklessly, or take very questionable actions, is simply silly, imo. Real life people make mistakes, act recklessly, and take very questionable actions all the time. It's part of being human.
What makes a great character is not that character never making mistakes - It's how they
respond to the realization that they were mistaken. The Wolkenritter responded by helping to destroy The Book of Darkness Defense Program, by eventually befriending Nanoha and Fate, and by continuing to remain loyal to Hayate. And Chrono responded by agreeing with Lindy's request, and respecting her authority as both his superior and his mom.
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Triple_R, the training scene with the sticks did NOTHING to add to the movie, at all.
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I strongly disagree. I enjoyed it. I found it nice, amusing, and creative. I also thought it was a
great tip of the hat to the franchise that spawned Nanoha in the first place (I immediately thought of Nanoha's brother and sister when I saw that training bit). I also loved how it shows that Nanoha and Fate are strong and athletic and good fighters even
without the benefit of magic. I think that makes them look more impressive, and more well-rounded as characters. To me, Nanya, this was a "badass" moment itself.
Now, here we have a full paragraph listing several positive qualities to this one short scene. And it didn't take me long at all to write. So frankly, I don't get the impression that the people criticizing this scene even bothered to think about why this scene was put there, or why some people (like myself) might like it.
No, from what I can gather, you just love the Nanoha supporting cast, and hate Nanoha and Fate for not
completely rolling over to let the supporting cast be the stars of the entire show. Frankly, that is how many of the complaints on this thread (and on this subforum) come across to me.
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That's what people are commenting on. Keeping stuff that's pointless in the movie when stuff that was awesome in A's was removed.
Not to mention, Triple_R, Fate's moment at the end of the movie? Where she broke that drill? THAT was pandering to the NanoFate crowd.
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I honestly saw that as just making up for the scene of Fate saving Nanoha from Vita getting edited out.
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