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Old 2014-10-28, 22:35   Link #3041
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Just wow. I was wrong about "can't reflect this properly". Thank you very much! The main plot line is perceived much more qualitative now. I drop my weapons and stop criticizing

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Old 2014-10-29, 03:47   Link #3042
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I need to go back and watch Hanamonogatari again because I don't remember the exact chronology. It could be that the "client" that Kaiki wants to introduce is Kanbaru, and Numachi already started collecting the Rainy Devil Parts before meeting Kaiki. But most likey, Numachi has only been collecting misfortunes before meeting Kaiki, and the "client" that Kaiki wants to introduce is the first person with the Devil part. My guess is that Gaen Tooe asked Kaiki to collect the parts, so Kaiki decides to manipulate Numachi into doing the job for him.
You forget Koimonogatari. There is a brief mention there that Kaiki met an old acquaintance of his. Before and after he was not allowed to get close to the city by Senjougahara.

俺は空き地となったその場所で、偶然、知り合いの沼地《ぬまち》蝋花《ろうか》という少女に出 会ったのだ。
 何年か前、別の町で会った子供だが――なんと、この町の人間だったのか。
 それはいずれ役立ちそうな情報だった。
 たとえば将来、神原駿河とかかわりを持つときとかにな。
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Old 2014-10-29, 10:21   Link #3043
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Below is the Afterword of Zoku for anyone who's interested. I tried my best to translate it, but there will always be things that are lost in translation.

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Old 2014-10-29, 10:36   Link #3044
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Just wow. I was wrong about "can't reflect this properly". Thank you very much! The main plot line is perceived much more qualitative now. I drop my weapons and stop criticizing
Haha, I'm glad it was helpful. I'll try to include some of those things in the summary then.

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You forget Koimonogatari. There is a brief mention there that Kaiki met an old acquaintance of his. Before and after he was not allowed to get close to the city by Senjougahara.
That's right, I forgot about that! I've only watched the anime for Koimonogatari, but I believe Kaiki mentioned it too in the anime. So when Kaiki said he met Numachi several years ago, that's referring to the event described in Rouka God. But when exactly does Kaiki start having Numachi collect the Devil parts? Is it shortly after Rouka God, or during Koimonogatari when they meet again?
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Old 2014-10-29, 13:09   Link #3045
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Below is the Afterword of Zoku for anyone who's interested. I tried my best to translate it, but there will always be things that are lost in translation.
Well... not sure if he is honest from the bottom of his heart or just troll us, especially with that last announcement page.
His Nisemonogatari novels were also written for fun, but it has a lot of interesting thought and important on the same level as Bakemonogatari for the main plot of the series.
Anyway, thanks for the effort, it was very nice to hear his last thought about this series. I hope he said something warm about it in the afterword of Owari 3^^ Considering that this is the last novel from his point of view.
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Old 2014-10-29, 20:43   Link #3046
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As a side note, and related no Nisio, he had been busy lately, with other works
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...-months/.80459

So... what "main work" of he hasn't "finished" yet?
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Old 2014-10-29, 21:17   Link #3047
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As a side note, and related no Nisio, he had been busy lately, with other works
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...-months/.80459

So... what "main work" of he hasn't "finished" yet?
Well, considering he can publish so many books and short stories in a year period, writing 9 one-shot comics isn't really a big deal to him (I guess).

Main work? If you are talking about anime, it most probably centred around monogatari stuff, else he got some other series he's working on besides monogatari.
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Old 2014-11-15, 07:55   Link #3048
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Well, considering he can publish so many books and short stories in a year period, writing 9 one-shot comics isn't really a big deal to him (I guess).

Main work? If you are talking about anime, it most probably centred around monogatari stuff, else he got some other series he's working on besides monogatari.
i don't get a thing about owarimonogatari 2,but why shinobu thinks that he might choose the first servant over araragi?

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Old 2014-11-21, 10:21   Link #3049
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Below is the Afterword of Zoku for anyone who's interested. I tried my best to translate it, but there will always be things that are lost in translation.

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Thanks for that, I really enjoyed his final thoughts there! I have to say that it seems very much like him to create an end that the audience doesn't need to read - yet also has its own message. Instead of putting his climax where one would expect, he resolves that one book early and moves on to look at one final theme before the series is wrapped up - one which fits the universe very well considering how self-persecuting a lot of the characters are.

It's a fitting end to the series, even though there are loose ends still within the universe it was never a series which one expected a concrete end out of. It's very different from Medaka Box, which had a rather concrete end whilst still leaving its own message. I look forward to Nisio Isin's next work!

On that note a few of his one-shots showed a lot of promise, I wonder if he's going to pick any of them up.
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Old 2014-11-22, 11:44   Link #3050
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i have a question for who have read koimonogatari novel,can someone describe hitagi'sfeelings for kaiki right now? not what she felt 2 years ago but what she felt in the present
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Old 2014-12-28, 10:58   Link #3051
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i have a question for who have read koimonogatari novel,can someone describe hitagi'sfeelings for kaiki right now? not what she felt 2 years ago but what she felt in the present
Koi is narrated by Kaiki, so there's a lot of filtering to be done to try and discern the real meaning behind his words. The upshot is that Kaiki liked Hitagi to some extent and Hitagi appeared to have a crush on him 2 years ago - he tried to help her but they never connected and it ended badly.

In answer to your question - Kaiki doesn't seem to dislike her at all. Hitagi dislikes what he does but doesn't exactly hate him either, doubtless she likes him a bit more after he helps her.

Hitagi certainly doesn't love him at this point, more like she doesn't wish him ill will but doesn't hate him either. The two are casual acquaintances, any actual interest in each other was blown apart because of the Hitagi Crab incident.
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Old 2014-12-30, 08:35   Link #3052
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English translation of "Koyomi Wind" short story from Koyomimonogatari novel has arrived.
http://polaristranslations.tumblr.co...oyomi-wind-001
I think it was a really interesting idea - to try to explore this matter about "How exactly Kaiki was able to spread rumors among middle school members?"
And I personally was glad to see a new monogatari translation. I wish some team like nanodesu would do translation of whole thing in the future.
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Old 2014-12-31, 11:34   Link #3053
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And one more translation has arrived :P
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http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/in...rincess_Beauty
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Old 2014-12-31, 16:04   Link #3054
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I just barely started reading the LN again after stopping but I have a question what arc is it where Araragi goes to the underworld and is helped by Hachikuji?
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Old 2014-12-31, 16:15   Link #3055
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I just barely started reading the LN again after stopping but I have a question what arc is it where Araragi goes to the underworld and is helped by Hachikuji?
First arc of Owarimonogatari vol 3.
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Old 2015-01-01, 03:16   Link #3056
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And one more translation has arrived :P
Princes Beauty:
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/in...rincess_Beauty
It was a miracle then I stumbled upon this on 4chan. Anon just made this translation for people in the thread, saying that it might be imperfect, but ok. After showing this translation to my japanese-speaking friends and confirming that it's 'ok' I decided to add it to Baka-tsuki. I am very grateful to anon who did this translation^^
Also I added Koyomi Wind there.
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Old 2015-01-01, 16:45   Link #3057
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Koi is narrated by Kaiki, so there's a lot of filtering to be done to try and discern the real meaning behind his words. The upshot is that Kaiki liked Hitagi to some extent and Hitagi appeared to have a crush on him 2 years ago - he tried to help her but they never connected and it ended badly.

In answer to your question - Kaiki doesn't seem to dislike her at all. Hitagi dislikes what he does but doesn't exactly hate him either, doubtless she likes him a bit more after he helps her.

Hitagi certainly doesn't love him at this point, more like she doesn't wish him ill will but doesn't hate him either. The two are casual acquaintances, any actual interest in each other was blown apart because of the Hitagi Crab incident.
Then when you say that she likes him a bit more you don't mean in a romantic way,right?
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Old 2015-01-03, 15:52   Link #3058
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Hello, I have 2 questions may be anyone answer it - whether I understand that at the end of 17-18 volumes of all main and supporting characters are alive?
And please tell me what happened to Shinobu Oshino, Deishuu Kaiki, Meme Oshino to 18 volume.
Thank you in advance for your answers.
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Old 2015-01-03, 19:35   Link #3059
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And please tell me what happened to Shinobu Oshino,
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Damn, this post looks like the 4chan Shingeki status chart after every chapter
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Old 2015-01-07, 12:19   Link #3060
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Then when you say that she likes him a bit more you don't mean in a romantic way,right?
Nope, she's devoted to Araragi as is made clear in Koi and repeated in some of the later parts of Owari. There's no romantic feelings on her end and it doesn't seem like there are on his. It's hard to tell with Kaiki, it seems more like that he's slightly regrets that he couldn't help her - in a similar way to how Araragi thinks about Nadeko post Koi. Though obviously Araragi is much more overt and open to the reader about his feelings on the matter.
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