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Gearhead · 2011-03-23, 14:37

I also wonder how much of Inner Moka's hostility to the idea that she has competition (competition that is willing to still let her have the lion's share) has to do with her childhood in a home where her father's two lovers were supposedly at one another's throats.

Kyero Fox · 2011-03-23, 14:38

If you guys haven't seen any of the signs between giin and kurumu...you're blind

And I know I'm not the only one who knew mizore would say what she said

Chris38 · 2011-03-23, 14:41

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Same. Tbh all I see with Gin is how he is acting with every other girl. Also there has been nothing shown about Kurumu being remotely interested. Just because one side might care doesn't immediately make them being relationship material.

Maybe see Kurumu rejecting love entirely and dying

Shake up the cushy harem situation...

And how do you think some fans of Kurumu are going to react if something like her dying happens, since I wouldn't want to be in Ikeda's skin if something like that occurs... not like something like that has a huge chance of happening in the first place.

Honestly, since the current arc hasn't finished yet, it's hard to say how Kurumu's situation is going to be resolved - not to mention that, no matter how much we discuss this, it's not like we can affect Ikeda's decision, since it's his story after all, and he can develop it in any way he likes...

liquidmetal · 2011-03-23, 14:44

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And how do you think some fans of Kurumu are going to react if something like her dying happens, since I wouldn't want to be in Ikeda's skin if something like that occurs...

Honestly, since the current arc hasn't finished yet, it's hard to say how Kurumu's situation is going to be resolved - not to mention that, no matter how much we discuss this, it's not like we can affect Ikeda's decision, since it's his story after all, and he can do things in any way he likes...

True. Still happy that the group dynamics of the harem is finally changing. Just hoping what happens to the other girls as a result of this is not a knee-jerk reaction for the convenience of the story.

kakakka · 2011-03-23, 14:45

Feeling sorry for Kurumu here. I doubt she'll get over Tsukune, soon. I could see Gin having feelings for her, but it'll be a long road for him. Kurumu wouldn't look at another guy unless its another "Tsukune", I think. She's still naive when it comes to these things. Kind of reminded me of what her mother had said before.

Dark Mage · 2011-03-23, 14:49

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Originally Posted by Kyero Fox

If you guys haven't seen any of the signs between giin and kurumu...you're blind

And I know I'm not the only one who knew mizore would say what she said

Finally I meet some like-minded guy.

Well said. Also agree about Mizore.

I am not wearing rose-couloured shipping glasses. I dont really like GinxKurumu either. I m just stating the bare facts.

If you guys still believe Gin acts like this with every other girl, then all I can do is "sigh"...He has been growing in love with Kurumu all this time. Do you ever see Gin paying as much attention to Mizoe or vice versa? On the other hand Kurumu has always paid attention to subtle changes in Gin and vice versa.

kakakka · 2011-03-23, 14:52

We can all think that Gin does this to all the girls, but with the manga focusing him to go to Kurumu... That's not something that is easily ignored, I think.

Chris38 · 2011-03-23, 14:53

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Originally Posted by Dark Mage

Finally I meet some like-minded guy.

Well said. Also agre about Mizore.

I am not wearing rose-couloured shipping glasses. I dont really like GinxKurumu either. I m just stating the bare facts.

If you guys still believe Gin acts like this with every other girl, then all I can do is "sigh"...He has been growing in love with Kurumu all this time. Do you ever see Gin paying as much attention to Mizoe or vice versa? On the other hand Kurumu has always paid attention to subtle changes in Gin and vice versa.

Well, that's true, but there is still a lot of development before them if Ikeda plans to get them together in the end, and that's why I think that Tsukune's harem will be returned to status quo, near the end of the current training arc.

Shadow5YA · 2011-03-23, 14:59

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Originally Posted by Dark Mage

Finally I meet some like-minded guy.

Well said. Also agre about Mizore.

I am not wearing rose-couloured shipping glasses. I dont really like GinxKurumu either. I m just stating the bare facts.

If you guys still believe Gin acts like this with every other girl, then all I can do is "sigh"...He has been growing in love with Kurumu all this time. Do you ever see Gin paying as much attention to Mizoe or vice versa? On the other hand Kurumu has always paid attention to subtle changes in Gin and vice versa.

No one will deny that Gin with Kurumu isn't a viable option. However, speculating that "he was about to confess before KKurumu felt something was happening to Tsukune's body and escaped from Gin's embrace" and "Gin is clearly in love with Kurumu now" are huge logical leaps. Falling in love? Maybe, we shall see where this goes. Already in love? You're pushing it.

HayashiTakara · 2011-03-23, 15:00

If you're a "true" Kurumu fan you wouldn't jump on the whole Gin ship so readily. Her love for Tsukune is too intense to jump into another mans arms to be consoled. That makes her look cheap and tawdry.

Fenrir_valindri · 2011-03-23, 15:12

I always thought Gin had it really bad for Sun-sempai, but there has definitely been some ship-tease with Kurumu.

That said, I agree with HayashiTakara, Kurumu has been in love with Tsukune for almost as long as Moka, and has been much more upfront and honest with her feelings as a whole. While I have nothing against Moka, Kurumu really put everything she had to compete for Tsukune's heart, and I don't think it will be anywhere close to as easy as Gin "picking up" after Tsukune has rejected her.

KLGChaos · 2011-03-23, 15:26

I REALLY don't like the Kurumu x Gin vibes. The scene of his hugging and her blushing literally made me nauseous (I love Moka, of course, but I'm a huge Kurumu supporter, too). Keep Gin with Sun. Let Tsukune have his harem of girls, damn it. At least the three main ones. I like Mizore's attitude.

Tachibana · 2011-03-23, 15:36

MOKA X TSUKUNE!

I can't wait to see that in the end or perhaps before the end.

Yorae_paladin1 · 2011-03-23, 15:41

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Feeling sorry for Kurumu here. I doubt she'll get over Tsukune, soon. I could see Gin having feelings for her, but it'll be a long road for him. Kurumu wouldn't look at another guy unless its another "Tsukune", I think. She's still naive when it comes to these things. Kind of reminded me of what her mother had said before.

What did Kurumus mom say i forgot

Kyero Fox · 2011-03-23, 15:41

Moka is actually cheating if you look at it right. They said that vampires give of a alluring aura like succubus but 24/7 and not as strong

Chris38 · 2011-03-23, 15:52

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Moka is actually cheating if you look at it right. They said that vampires give of a alluring aura like succubus but 24/7 and not as strong

But, it wasn't the only thing that caused Tsukune to fall in love with her, since if only her alluring aura was the reason why Tsukune has romantic feelings foreword Moka, I think he would be unable to remove the Rosario, so it had to be partially Tsukune's own decision, that caused him to fall in love with Moka.

Tachibana · 2011-03-23, 15:56

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But, it wasn't the only thing that caused Tsukune to fall in love with her, since if only her alluring aura was the reason why Tsukune has romantic feelings foreword Moka, I think he would be unable to remove the Rosario, so it had to be partially Tsukune's own decision, that caused him to fall in love with Moka.

Tsukune's confession for Moka confirms that he truly loves her, i doubt it was her alluring aura because like you say that wouldn't have been why Tsukune was able to remove the Rosary, it was out of true caring love he has for Moka, both Ura and Omote.

Magin · 2011-03-23, 15:58

Well, if you go with mythology, vampires are said to give off that aura of seduction... and technically, for a good part of the first chapter, Tsukune might've been influenced by it, even if her Outer side has most of her vampire power sealed off. But, the love connection started when he realized he was going to abandon the only friend he'd made

that's probably when the aura stopped working on him, if you use that angle

~~Tsuyoshi~~ · 2011-03-23, 16:06

If anything, the fact that Tsukune confessed to Moka in her memory, when he couldn't possibly be affected by her "aura," that speaks volumes about how he truly feels for her

Chris38 · 2011-03-23, 16:17

Let's also not forget that Tsukune managed to survive through Moka's blood injections, which also requires some kind of compatibility between them, considering the fact that it's pretty rare for a human to be able to survive through the injection of a vampire's blood.

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Gearhead Metroid of Humor Join Date: Mar 2006	I also wonder how much of Inner Moka's hostility to the idea that she has competition (competition that is willing to still let her have the lion's share) has to do with her childhood in a home where her father's two lovers were supposedly at one another's throats. __________________ - Kicking it old school.

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Kyero Fox Tastes Cloudy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Snake Way Age: 35	If you guys haven't seen any of the signs between giin and kurumu...you're blind And I know I'm not the only one who knew mizore would say what she said __________________

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HayashiTakara Chicken or Beef? Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle Age: 41	If you're a "true" Kurumu fan you wouldn't jump on the whole Gin ship so readily. Her love for Tsukune is too intense to jump into another mans arms to be consoled. That makes her look cheap and tawdry. __________________ http://htakara82.deviantart.com/

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Fenrir_valindri Miria's #1 Disciple Join Date: Apr 2007	I always thought Gin had it really bad for Sun-sempai, but there has definitely been some ship-tease with Kurumu. That said, I agree with HayashiTakara, Kurumu has been in love with Tsukune for almost as long as Moka, and has been much more upfront and honest with her feelings as a whole. While I have nothing against Moka, Kurumu really put everything she had to compete for Tsukune's heart, and I don't think it will be anywhere close to as easy as Gin "picking up" after Tsukune has rejected her. __________________

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KLGChaos The Shermain Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NY Age: 44	I REALLY don't like the Kurumu x Gin vibes. The scene of his hugging and her blushing literally made me nauseous (I love Moka, of course, but I'm a huge Kurumu supporter, too). Keep Gin with Sun. Let Tsukune have his harem of girls, damn it. At least the three main ones. I like Mizore's attitude. __________________

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kakakka Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008	Feeling sorry for Kurumu here. I doubt she'll get over Tsukune, soon. I could see Gin having feelings for her, but it'll be a long road for him. Kurumu wouldn't look at another guy unless its another "Tsukune", I think. She's still naive when it comes to these things. Kind of reminded me of what her mother had said before.

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kakakka Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008	We can all think that Gin does this to all the girls, but with the manga focusing him to go to Kurumu... That's not something that is easily ignored, I think.

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Tachibana タチバナ Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Noctis Labyrinthus Age: 33	MOKA X TSUKUNE! I can't wait to see that in the end or perhaps before the end. __________________

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Kyero Fox Tastes Cloudy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Snake Way Age: 35	Moka is actually cheating if you look at it right. They said that vampires give of a alluring aura like succubus but 24/7 and not as strong __________________

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Magin #1 Akashiya Moka Fan Author Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Where magic is real Age: 35	Well, if you go with mythology, vampires are said to give off that aura of seduction... and technically, for a good part of the first chapter, Tsukune might've been influenced by it, even if her Outer side has most of her vampire power sealed off. But, the love connection started when he realized he was going to abandon the only friend he'd made that's probably when the aura stopped working on him, if you use that angle __________________ Gifted...or Cursed? R+V fanfic- Chapter 4 of A Water Bride and a Vampire is now up at FF.net! All fans of Inner or Outer Moka, come join her fanclub!

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~~Tsuyoshi~~ Disabled By Request Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Great Justice	If anything, the fact that Tsukune confessed to Moka in her memory, when he couldn't possibly be affected by her "aura," that speaks volumes about how he truly feels for her

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Chris38 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Poland Age: 38	Let's also not forget that Tsukune managed to survive through Moka's blood injections, which also requires some kind of compatibility between them, considering the fact that it's pretty rare for a human to be able to survive through the injection of a vampire's blood.