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Though keep in mind. Superman is overpowered by ALL standards. This is a guy who measures up (if not surpasses) the Hulk in terms of durability and strength...who can also competitively race with the Flash for the title of worlds fastest man. Anybody who isn't as strong or as fast as him is going to realistically end up a sidekick or mission support (which WOULD fit Batman, given his intelligence), since any threats against Superman in a stand up fight are the kinds of things that would take even less powerful super beings in the blink of an eye. Course there's always the time honored tradition of handing Superman (and enemies in his tier) the idiot ball to allow regular humans to do badass things against them. They certainly did it in the Man of Steel movie. Quote:
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2013-08-25, 09:06 | Link #63 | |
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Discounting the obvious fact that Ironman is Marvel and Superman and Batman are both DC? Well, there's also always kryptonite. |
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2013-08-25, 11:21 | Link #64 |
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I'm kind of ignorant between Marvel and DC xD. So it's impossible for this I and S. Anyway, I really do hope that this will work as this 2 characters post a really big gap in terms of powers. Well, I trust the American movie industry that they'll sort things out for this both. Sorry for my ignorance in this by the way.
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2013-08-25, 11:27 | Link #65 |
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There are plenty of Batman/Superman stories out there. A few which they fight each other, but mostly it is them working together. Batman is usually the loner (he says despite having his own sidekicks) and Superman is the guy that usually doesn't need help, but is usually friendly. Superman is almost always toned down, usually by his own accord.
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2013-08-25, 11:55 | Link #67 |
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Admittedly a lot of them from from the comics "World's Finest Comics" from the 1940s to the 1980s. As well as a at least one 1990s cartoon episode of the same name that crossed over Batman: the Animated Series and Superman: the Animated Series. I think the episode was a Superman episode, but Batman was very prominent in it. Though The 1990s cartoons and even into Justice League and Justice League Unlimited, they were all very heavily Batman centric as he was were that universe stated in terms of getting on television. The Timmverse I guess its called more or less started with the Batman movies by Tim Burton being very popular and a cartoon for Batman made to capitalize on that success. The animated Batman and the following series lasted for 14 years. So that Batman and other DC comics characters are very ingrained in a range of people who grew up in the 1990s and early 2000s.
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2013-08-25, 11:57 | Link #68 | |
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2013-08-25, 11:59 | Link #69 |
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They don't have a choice. They can't make a film with the full list of heroes and introduce them later, it just wouldn't work. Better to have the Trinity set up shop, then start up a recruitment drive with future films. I don't see how JL would be better off having half a dozen members with most of them have no backstories yet.
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2013-08-25, 12:07 | Link #70 |
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Or do another set of cross over films using Superman to basically introduce us to the new heroes and then go for Justice League.
You have "Man of Steel" which give us a new Superman Now we get "Man of Steel 2" which gives us a new Batman You follow these with a "Man of Steel 3+" to introduces either a new Green Lantern, Flash, or Wonder Woman, before going Justice League where they pull in the likes of Martian Manhunter, Aquaman, Cyborg, Hawkgirl, Green Arrow, or whoever they get to fill the two remaining slots after Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, and Flash. Though Wonder Woman might be the hardest one to introduce. She's really important, just difficult to pull off. It would also be a different pattern than the path to the Avengers.
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2013-08-25, 12:14 | Link #71 |
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The problem is that if I am not mistaken, the Justice League movie is coming out relatively soon. Soon enough that they can't squeeze in three more movies introducing heroes.
Is there really a problem to start up with only 3 primary JL members? I mean, I would watch it. Just the Trinity alone would be able to carry the film. Then we can get down to building a base and handing out flyers. With the Avengers, they got together because of Nick Fury. But as far as I can tell the JL formed BECAUSE of the Trinity, isn't it?
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2013-08-25, 12:19 | Link #72 | |
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If you’re a comic-book reader try read the Superman/Batman series or Batman: Hush.
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2013-08-25, 12:19 | Link #73 |
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I don't recall if there is a problem with starting with only three. The Avengers didn't start with everyone that is traditional either (Antman and Wasp I think were founders originally) so it is possible to just for for Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, and pick up the rest in a sequel or in additional other films.
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Yeah, WB/DC just doesn't have the patience or success to do it the Marvel way.
In fact, this is my biggest worry about the DC movies going forward - You can just feel how desperate they are in trying to catch-up to Marvel. I'm a bit worried we might get a lot of half-baked rush-jobs for the DC superhero movies. MoS itself had some plot issues, imo.
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2013-08-25, 22:58 | Link #79 |
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I really hope this won't be like The Dark Knight Strikes Again where they turned Batman into an asshole, Superman into a mindless monster and Robin... Not even going to mention it. Let these characters keep their dignity.
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http://screenrant.com/ben-affleck-ba...s-zack-snyder/ So this is confirmation that Batman would be Superman's senior, who would consider Superman an amateur with way more power than he knows what to do with. For all we know, Superman might accept tips on Superhero-ing from Bats.
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