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Yes, she showed jealousy, but we've still got to take into account that, before that, she denied knowing about Hayate, and she also hid herself expecting him to leave. Sure, she admitted to herself she still loves him. However, the situation prevents her from being able to express her feelings. That's what I mean we'd have to see her in a normal situation, in which she can express her feelings freely.
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2009-11-24, 19:09 | Link #4963 |
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Huhu...
We're almost on pg. 250. To celebrate 250 chapters of HnG, the first post on pg. 250 will determine who will Hayate end up with. - or at least influence the possibility by 0.1% :> Naw, you don't have to say anything, or play along. Just normally reply to the thread. Oh, and also if your reply is 5 mins from your last post or less it doesn't count! (so the second post counts if this happens) ^_^ |
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2009-11-24, 19:52 | Link #4965 | |
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She indeed showed jealousy, but she still couldn't bring herself to tell Hayate she still loves him. She had no qualms about that during the time they spent in the RG.
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2009-11-24, 20:14 | Link #4966 | ||
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The current Athena does have jealousy, and she can't say she loves him due to their past. It seems like she believes that she have no right to love him. I didn't say that she were freely in expressing her true feelings to Hayate because it's true that she didn't right now. But that's due to the situation they had, not due to her change in personality/characteristics. |
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2009-11-24, 20:28 | Link #4967 |
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As stirring as the past ten chapters have been, I have no faith in the events about to unfold. I can't see him actually deciding between the two, no matter how much I will for it to happen. Putting Hinagiku out of the picture was enough of a crack in the 'mold' so to speak but I just don't see him breaking said mold any further.
I'll be happy as fuck to eat my own words though. With gusto.
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2009-11-24, 21:03 | Link #4970 | |
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The whole deal I was saying about a possible change in her personality was unrelated to her expressing her feelings. My point was simply that due to the things she's gone through, she's probably changed. Quote:
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2009-11-24, 23:39 | Link #4973 | |
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I'm talking about change as in people change over time, especially when they have to go through tough things. And I think she has indeed changed. For example, when she first met Hayate (a complete stranger for her, back then) she had no problems showing him a smile. However, right now, she looks like a cold person (even if only in the outside). For example, when she met Hina, even if she did try becoming friends with her, she was still quite serious and a bit distant.
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2009-11-25, 01:39 | Link #4975 |
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Anyway, It's impossible to say at this point if she's still the same as 10 years ago, or if she changed. It might be true that she's just acting tough, because she's in such a state all the time. There's always someone that wants her money, she's worried as hell about herself (if she noticed Midas, perhaps for some other reason), about Hayate, her past is a constant reminder that trusting people ends in suffering, so she doesn't trust anyone.. Just for that you'd have to indeed put a helluva lot "barriers" around yourself, but it's not impossible that she really changed to what she is now. Perhaps she still trusted people after her incident with Hayate, but was betrayed so many times over the years that she just can't trust anyone, and her cold attitude comes naturally.. But now you're probably thinking that someone strong willed and proud as her possibly couldn't succumb to such a state. Well, Midas did possess her, and that's indisputable evidence that she was unstable from the start - I can't say otherwise, because being only 7, and in such a state is really... She sought shelter within a relationship, within love... from loneliness, from her despair, whatever it was / is, but got betrayed in the end.. Maybe after Hayate she found someone else? I'm not referring to another romantic relationship, but perhaps a "friend" / or "friends" over the time, that would console her, and keep her company, but only because of her wealth. In the end, she'd be betrayed again, and again, but she'd still put her trust into people, because being alone was just too painful. So, she's either succumbed to it, or put a Damocles type barrier around herself (I'm referring to Geass).. If it's the latter, I'd like to see put her faith into Hayate and his friends after she's saved from Midas (or perhaps still when possessed, after Hayate promises that he'll save her - if he doesn't intend to break the gem), and then at some crucial moment, when she's in trouble, and she's thinking about how she trusted Hayate and his friends, how she'll get betrayed again.. just then they come save her... Or if you prefer, Hayate comes save her alone. But IMHO, it'd be a greater effect if there were more people. I want that kind of happy drama. I wanna see her let go everything that she's been holding onto for the past 10 years and more. She finally wasn't betrayed. Someone stood up for her, someone went through a lot to help her... Ah, in short, I wanna see her cry her heart out about all the pain that she's been through, and then accept their friendship / become a member of the "Hayate is a baka that doesn't understand my feelings club", etc... ^_^ |
2009-11-25, 01:52 | Link #4976 | |
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Looks like some dojinshi made a picture on when Hayate woke up in chapter 244 (was it?) with Athena hiding under the bed.
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That really contradicts her character. Athena and Maria are some of the characters that I find hard to picture in this kind of situation but since this is HnG, anything could happen really. |
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2009-11-25, 02:08 | Link #4977 |
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Contradictions are good. "Typical drama" is good too!
You find it hard to picture mainly because you don't know them all that well, and you, like everyone else, made a picture of her character in your mind. She's not the type to do that.. or that.. Contradicting yourself already~ We don't know how Maria is for real. She might be suppressing something. Doesn't she feel lonely at all? She was brought up without her parents, and is constantly caring for Nagi. But there wasn't anyone that really cared for her (well, I'm assuming this, because of lack of information, and Klaus / Mikado couldn't really fit that role). Klaus is probably filler, and Mikado is a schemer that desires limitless power, or something the like... Athena is already suppressing everything. That's why she looks so distant and cold... Whatever she went through before she met Hayate is still there, troubling her. Her love for him was already a way to run away from it.. to forget about it... Though, don't misunderstand me. Her love was / still is real. Just at that time 10 years ago, even though real, she still used it to forget about whatever pain was in her heart... Lovely, huh? |
2009-11-25, 02:33 | Link #4978 |
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To me they are like the dark anonymous figures in Detective Conan shrouded in another layer of dark mist. In my opinion, the top 5 most mysterious characters in this manga is Maria, Athena, Mikado, Himegami and Hayate's brother (not in list of importance or level of mysteriousness). From the presentation of their characters available right now, they don't seem to be the type to do such a thing, of course, it could change later depending on whether Hata wants a change.
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2009-11-25, 03:21 | Link #4979 |
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Supposing that it's not all a big conspiracy, and they're not trolling Hayate. That's an outrageous thought.. heh..
Yeah, I'll agree with you about the mysterious characters. Mikado might turn out to be a really good father if Yukariko were to return. He could turn around so badly, that it'd give everyone nausea. Although we don't know much about her; Athena is the kind of character that holds everything in. Of that I'm sure... Maria might be lonely at times, but she's probably as we saw her throughout the manga. I'm not expecting major surprises about her real character, or a change in her personality, but we still have to know how she's connected to everything. I'll rule out any other new characters that might suddenly pop up, and go with the assumption that she's related to someone. Preferably with Athena. Especially if her parents are dead. Since I'm thinking about parents already, an absurd thought crossed my mind. What if Hina's parents are Athena's as well? And it's all a huuuggeeee conspiracy.. hahaha, it doesn't even fit. Ignore what I said. Anyway, next we have Himegami. Apparently, if the info isn't wrong, he's around the same age as Maria. Basically, he's a new character awaiting introduction, if he's not someone time traveling. Klaus from the past? LOL... Then Hayate's brother. Again we don't have enough info. Hata depicted him with dark hair, while the person with Yukariko had light hair. He couldn't be trolling us like Used Can said, could he? I've read a post on the Manga Fox forums how someone suggested that Nagi was born in the RG and whatnot.. I don't recall it. Reading those forums makes my head hurt. Too many one sentence replies. Anywayz, I'll apply my own theory to it, if I'm not just saying something similar that the person who came up with said. The day after Hayate and Athena broke up, Hayate met with his "brother" who was out helping people like usual. I don't know where, but I've read that apparently it's suggested that he helped Yukariko once, too. Her trademark scarf was shown. The one that's wrapped around her gravestone. No idea if this is true, but anyway, say that after calming Hayate down he went on with his duties, or perhaps the next day when Athena went to sleep outside. Around that time he met Yukariko, and they somehow ended up in the RG (yeah, it's magic.. lol). It doesn't make any sense at all really, because Yukariko died normally outside of the RG, and she was buried th... Okay, here I go... She was buried? CORPSE WHERE!? Fucking Mikado is keeping her in a laboratory tube! Alive or dead, her body is still in good condition. Perhaps he slowed down her illness? Okay, this is madness! How about a Yukariko clone? She really did die, but now Mikado seeks Godlike powers to retrieve her soul? Hmhmhm... Well, cloning would be pointless if he achieved such powers, since he could simply restore her entirely, if at all possible... But it would be soooooo frekkin' epic to see a clone of her casually walk in Nagi's mansion. Oh God... the impact! Ahahahah! Guess I'm influenced by Misaka here.. heh~ ~☆~ Spoiler for Does HnG fit in here? What are your thoughts about it? Was this article mentioned before?:
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Same here mate. I tried checking out that place, and I felt a sudden urge of hitting my face against my monitor.
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