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fict_ticious · 2011-10-11, 11:58

Orchestral scores are always great but what topped the cake for me was when they threw in flamenco for Zero.

In other news, Kei Nagase is making her return in this and has a blog. I'm guessing Bamco is making sure there's at least one Nagase in all their games.

blakstealth · 2011-10-11, 14:39

She's gonna be in Assault Horizon? lol wut

Hooves · 2011-10-11, 19:39

Nagase is the very foundation of Ace Combat games apparently. It's a necessity to have her in every game in order to make it official that it's an Ace Combat game

blakstealth · 2011-10-11, 19:48

lol, is this her?

Spoiler:

Spartanz1170 · 2011-10-11, 22:33

Just finished the campaign, dear god it was so intense im STILL shaking and having a hard time trying to type this.
To those who play the campaign, you wont be dissapointed, you will be at the edge of your seat, all day long.

Jeffry2009 · 2011-10-11, 22:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by blakstealth

lol, is this her?

Spoiler:

Yes, that's her.

MrTerrorist · 2011-10-12, 10:13

Gametrailers review of Ace Combat: Assault Horizon

blakstealth · 2011-10-12, 13:46

Just saw that. I actually expected a higher number after all the positives they mentioned, but that's not stopping me from getting it eventually.

Jeffry2009 · 2011-10-12, 20:27

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/acti...tabs%3Breviews

THIS the reason why I can't trust Gamespot anymore unlike IGN.

Hooves · 2011-10-12, 21:58

"Forces you into a constant loop of dogfights." Isnt that generally the point of Ace Combat games? Might actually not be, but it felt that way to me.

GN0010 Nosferatu · 2011-10-13, 02:38

I don't care what anyone says. DFM is really fun once you get used to it.

Jeffry2009 · 2011-10-13, 07:50

http://kotaku.com/5849298/

Do I really need to repeat all of this again? I mean that I couldn't even trust those reviewers whatsoever till I will conflicting whether to buy this game or not?

Drake · 2011-10-13, 14:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffry2009

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/acti...tabs%3Breviews

THIS the reason why I can't trust Gamespot anymore unlike IGN.

You think thats bad you should read 1up's review.

I'm still going to buy it anyway and besides the reviews on kotaku are alright besides gamestops.

GN0010 Nosferatu · 2011-10-13, 21:08

I like the game, it has great details, and the explosions are the best the series ever had. The DFM is fun and engaging, really gets ya pumped up. I did however encounter one flaw that really marks down the game for me.

You can't use unlocked planes or custom paint in campaign. Even after ya beat it. Now this wouldn't be a problem for me since you have free mission which does allow those things. EXCEPT, it completely cuts out the cut scenes.

Drake · 2011-10-15, 20:21

Picked it up and enjoying what I have played of the campaign, I like how diversified the missions have been so far.

Online however I'm not really enjoying as much since I like playing as the attacker or chopper aircraft types but have little chance against the overwhelming majority of people who seem to just use the fighters. Also DFM kinda widens the gap even more between fighter and other classes and in my honest opinion it takes a bit of the skill out of it.

Also whoever negative repped me saying "Wait, don't you mean Gamespot?" no I was clearly referring to 1up's review being worse, so cheers for that.

Gault · 2011-10-18, 04:12

even before the game was release I was already put off
sorry Ace Combat you've literally dissapointed me with this change to make it a Call Of Duty styled game

I hope they re-make Ace Combat 4 but as the Yellow Squadron
I liked the made-up nations and deep stories the old games have, that's what made it "Ace Combat"

Yu Ominae · 2011-10-28, 18:12

I'm not sure if I should get it, but I like the story.

Demongod86 · 2011-10-29, 01:48

Just youtubed the entire single player campaign of this game.

Two things positive about it:

William Bishop is not a blank-slate character (though barely above such, the guy is next to emotionless)
I'm Russian, so I absolutely loved the moments of bilingual bonus.

That said, I am unequivocally disappointed with everything else plotwise. Why did they need to sign Jim Defelice to this, when the story was next to nonexistent?

Bunch of separatist Russians led by a guy who wants revenge for his dead wife try to stage a coup in Russia and then try to blow up the White House, but get stopped by a next-to-emotionless ace with nightmare issues over a guy with a shark's mouth painted on the nose of his plane.

There is next to no character interaction, and no character development to speak of whatsoever. Every character we meet is identical from the time we meet them to the end of the game, because the campaign was so short as to not even allow the characters time to develop, aside from perhaps Bishop at the very end resolving his nagging nightmare issue.

Also, IMO several missions were wasted on helicopter missions. Considering one mission had the player black screen for a second and say "three deaths later" twice, not to mention how boring it was to watch (strafing contests between Apache and Hind that took one minute to play out per instance), which could have been more fighter jet missions.

And also WTF was the whole thing about planes bouncing off the ground instead of crashing? Big lol there.

Now, while the graphics and the metal carnage system was a really innovative touch, well, there's only so many times until that mini-cinematic of a Fulcrum or Flanker disintegrating is cool.

Essentially, IMO, after you take the test of time, nobody's really going to remember how good your graphics were, how "innovative" your battle system was, or whatever else. After all is said and done, IMO only two aspects of a game stand the test of time:

1) the soundtrack
2) the story.

In the former, ACAH's main theme is kicking, but its story never really had time to even get off the runway. And IMO, the lack of a story is a colossal failure for a company who constantly tells games with epic plots, whether in a medieval-cum-fantasy setting (Soul Calibur), or a modern-day war era (AC4, 5, Zero).

I for one want to go back to StrangeReal, with larger than life aces, such as Mobius 1, Cipher/Pixy, and Wardog squadron. Except hopefully the next games give the central protagonist more character development than the AFGNCAAPs that were Mobius, Blaze, and Cipher.

Drake · 2011-10-30, 19:08

Hit the nail on the head.

Overall I was bitterly disappointed with nearly everything about the game, sure there was some good missions that I did enjoy and the graphics where nice when you shredded an enemy plane but there was way more bad that out weighted the good.

I commend them for trying to do something new but its almost like they just copied the Tom Clancy hawx formula thinking it appealed to the western market and as a result it turned out to be the worst in the series.

I traded my copy in which is saying something since I still have AC6 which I bought on the day of its release.

Bonta Kun · 2012-04-17, 14:58

Haven't played a AC game in like forever, think the last game I played was 3 or 2

But reason I may try the series out again is simply cause of this.
Totally getting it cause it looks fab and it's made by Hasegawa plus it's actually quite cheap!

2011-10-12, 10:13	Link #67
MrTerrorist Takao Tsundere Cruiser Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Classified	Gametrailers review of Ace Combat: Assault Horizon __________________

2011-10-12, 20:27	Link #69
Jeffry2009 Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Age: 37	Gamespot review is up. I say BLASPHEMY!! http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/acti...tabs%3Breviews THIS the reason why I can't trust Gamespot anymore unlike IGN. Last edited by Jeffry2009; 2011-10-13 at 02:41. Reason: I just don't want to start a flame wars because of this.

2011-10-13, 07:50	Link #72
Jeffry2009 Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Age: 37	Ace Combat: Assault Horizon Review Scores Steadily Gain Altitude http://kotaku.com/5849298/ Do I really need to repeat all of this again? I mean that I couldn't even trust those reviewers whatsoever till I will conflicting whether to buy this game or not? Last edited by Jeffry2009; 2011-10-13 at 21:24.

2011-10-15, 20:21	Link #75
Drake dn ʎɐʍ sıɥʇ Graphic Designer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Northern Ireland	Picked it up and enjoying what I have played of the campaign, I like how diversified the missions have been so far. Online however I'm not really enjoying as much since I like playing as the attacker or chopper aircraft types but have little chance against the overwhelming majority of people who seem to just use the fighters. Also DFM kinda widens the gap even more between fighter and other classes and in my honest opinion it takes a bit of the skill out of it. Also whoever negative repped me saying "Wait, don't you mean Gamespot?" no I was clearly referring to 1up's review being worse, so cheers for that. __________________

2011-10-28, 18:12	Link #77
Yu Ominae ARCAM Spriggan agent Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Coquitlam, BC, Canada/Quezon City, Philippines	I'm not sure if I should get it, but I like the story. __________________ Even if we were at odds with each other, I still thank you for training me, Instructor Bowman - Yu Ominae, reflecting on Bowman's death after killing him in Phantom Island

2011-10-11, 11:58	Link #61
fict_ticious I can has drinks? Join Date: Mar 2006	Orchestral scores are always great but what topped the cake for me was when they threw in flamenco for Zero. In other news, Kei Nagase is making her return in this and has a blog. I'm guessing Bamco is making sure there's at least one Nagase in all their games.

2011-10-11, 14:39	Link #62
blakstealth Les Pays Bass Join Date: Jun 2011	She's gonna be in Assault Horizon? lol wut

2011-10-11, 19:48	Link #64
blakstealth Les Pays Bass Join Date: Jun 2011	lol, is this her? Spoiler:

2011-10-11, 22:33	Link #65
Spartanz1170 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	Just finished the campaign, dear god it was so intense im STILL shaking and having a hard time trying to type this. To those who play the campaign, you wont be dissapointed, you will be at the edge of your seat, all day long.

2011-10-12, 13:46	Link #68
blakstealth Les Pays Bass Join Date: Jun 2011	Just saw that. I actually expected a higher number after all the positives they mentioned, but that's not stopping me from getting it eventually.

2011-10-13, 02:38	Link #71
GN0010 Nosferatu Where's the monoeye? Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hargenteen Age: 35	I don't care what anyone says. DFM is really fun once you get used to it.

2011-10-13, 21:08	Link #74
GN0010 Nosferatu Where's the monoeye? Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hargenteen Age: 35	I like the game, it has great details, and the explosions are the best the series ever had. The DFM is fun and engaging, really gets ya pumped up. I did however encounter one flaw that really marks down the game for me. You can't use unlocked planes or custom paint in campaign. Even after ya beat it. Now this wouldn't be a problem for me since you have free mission which does allow those things. EXCEPT, it completely cuts out the cut scenes.

2011-10-18, 04:12	Link #76
Gault inc_mplete Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sydney Australia / Taiwan Age: 35	even before the game was release I was already put off sorry Ace Combat you've literally dissapointed me with this change to make it a Call Of Duty styled game I hope they re-make Ace Combat 4 but as the Yellow Squadron I liked the made-up nations and deep stories the old games have, that's what made it "Ace Combat"

2011-10-29, 01:48	Link #78
Demongod86 Gundam Boobs and Boom FTW Join Date: Dec 2005	Just youtubed the entire single player campaign of this game. Two things positive about it: William Bishop is not a blank-slate character (though barely above such, the guy is next to emotionless) I'm Russian, so I absolutely loved the moments of bilingual bonus. That said, I am unequivocally disappointed with everything else plotwise. Why did they need to sign Jim Defelice to this, when the story was next to nonexistent? Bunch of separatist Russians led by a guy who wants revenge for his dead wife try to stage a coup in Russia and then try to blow up the White House, but get stopped by a next-to-emotionless ace with nightmare issues over a guy with a shark's mouth painted on the nose of his plane. There is next to no character interaction, and no character development to speak of whatsoever. Every character we meet is identical from the time we meet them to the end of the game, because the campaign was so short as to not even allow the characters time to develop, aside from perhaps Bishop at the very end resolving his nagging nightmare issue. Also, IMO several missions were wasted on helicopter missions. Considering one mission had the player black screen for a second and say "three deaths later" twice, not to mention how boring it was to watch (strafing contests between Apache and Hind that took one minute to play out per instance), which could have been more fighter jet missions. And also WTF was the whole thing about planes bouncing off the ground instead of crashing? Big lol there. Now, while the graphics and the metal carnage system was a really innovative touch, well, there's only so many times until that mini-cinematic of a Fulcrum or Flanker disintegrating is cool. Essentially, IMO, after you take the test of time, nobody's really going to remember how good your graphics were, how "innovative" your battle system was, or whatever else. After all is said and done, IMO only two aspects of a game stand the test of time: 1) the soundtrack 2) the story. In the former, ACAH's main theme is kicking, but its story never really had time to even get off the runway. And IMO, the lack of a story is a colossal failure for a company who constantly tells games with epic plots, whether in a medieval-cum-fantasy setting (Soul Calibur), or a modern-day war era (AC4, 5, Zero). I for one want to go back to StrangeReal, with larger than life aces, such as Mobius 1, Cipher/Pixy, and Wardog squadron. Except hopefully the next games give the central protagonist more character development than the AFGNCAAPs that were Mobius, Blaze, and Cipher. __________________ Signature stolen by a horde of carnivorous bunnies. It is an unscientifically proven fact that they are attracted to signatures which break the signature rules.

2011-10-30, 19:08	Link #79
Drake dn ʎɐʍ sıɥʇ Graphic Designer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Northern Ireland	Hit the nail on the head. Overall I was bitterly disappointed with nearly everything about the game, sure there was some good missions that I did enjoy and the graphics where nice when you shredded an enemy plane but there was way more bad that out weighted the good. I commend them for trying to do something new but its almost like they just copied the Tom Clancy hawx formula thinking it appealed to the western market and as a result it turned out to be the worst in the series. I traded my copy in which is saying something since I still have AC6 which I bought on the day of its release. __________________

2012-04-17, 14:58	Link #80
Bonta Kun Know who you are Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Resides within the depths of Ned infested Glasgow	Haven't played a AC game in like forever, think the last game I played was 3 or 2 But reason I may try the series out again is simply cause of this. Totally getting it cause it looks fab and it's made by Hasegawa plus it's actually quite cheap! __________________