2008-08-09, 01:18 | Link #5061 | ||
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Yes, Suzaku sought out Lelouch because of what he did, but he still did it knowing what Lelouch was doing. Left to his own devices, Lelouch had the potential to set Japan free, for however short a time. He recognizes this, however skewed, when Kallen shows up. He rationalizes it as lying. Suzaku disobeyed orders in his rage to capture Lelouch, and took that opportunity away. Soldiers have to do their duty, but they are not mindless idiots and it is always possible to resign. Somewhere along the line he could have realized that his people stood a chance of gaining their freedom through rebellion, but no. All Suzaku does is force his will upon them by staying. He is (or maybe was, KoR is probably harder to quit) hardly in a position where he has no choice but to fight. Every moment he stays is a decision he makes to fight the people fighting for their freedom. Quote:
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2008-08-09, 01:19 | Link #5062 | |
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2008-08-09, 01:23 | Link #5063 | |
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While it is true that people did rebel, it was also true that at least half of the population support Suzaku until Lelouch cheated...Talking about letting people choose for themselves Lelouch never let anyone choose for themselves,he only makes them think that they made the choice but in reality there are no other choice but to follow his choice |
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2008-08-09, 01:28 | Link #5064 | ||
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2008-08-09, 01:29 | Link #5065 | ||
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2008-08-09, 01:29 | Link #5066 | |||
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Suzaku knew his choice wasn't easy, but he was resolute in going with his choice. He isn't so weak as to back out of what he thinks is the right path to let what he thinks is the wrong path win. Especially after what Lelouch did to allow that rebellion to happen. Quote:
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2008-08-09, 01:33 | Link #5067 | ||
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2008-08-09, 01:36 | Link #5068 | |||
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If you're referring to that conversation between the Black Knights about killing Suzaku, I don't see that implying disapproval. Diethard made the case that Britannia could use Suzaku as a symbol to oppose Zero.
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2008-08-09, 01:41 | Link #5070 | |||
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Half the people supported Euphy's idea. And they only did so because as I stated before, it is only natural that people will take the easy way out. SAZ was the closest thing that the Japanese can achieve without a rebellion. Brittannian and Japanese coexisting together, how nice. The idea is awesome for the Japanese since they were stripped of everything: their country, their name and most of all, their pride as Japanese. Quote:
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TRUE! Lelouch is dead! XD
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2008-08-09, 01:49 | Link #5072 | |
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Lelouch is playing with fire by making his choice the obvious ones! Every things he ever accomplished were base on lying. If I ever learn that someone killed my master or family or both so that I can decide to follow that someone,I'd want that man head... Suzaku is forcing people into a less bloody path and even if you think it's wrong it's way better than making people choose your side by faking incidents and get their closed ones killed.. |
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2008-08-09, 01:51 | Link #5073 | |
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2008-08-09, 01:58 | Link #5074 | |||
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Outgunned means the other guy has more guns. If two guys are shooting cannons at each other and one is doing so from the top of hill, he just has the advantage. Of course, now we're fighting over semantics.
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2008-08-09, 02:02 | Link #5075 | |
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Morally & Ethically Suzaku way is right Morally & Ethically Lelouch way is wrong but at the end of the day we can see from this season that Lelouch is making more progress than suzaku although this progress will soon bite him in the ass because of is immoral & unethical acts, but what do u expect, Lelouch stated himself clearly that he had to become evil in order to destroy evil basically fighting fire with fire. Suzaku wrong in that he thinks he knows what best for his people and he's imposing his will regardless, but does he really know what's best for them? the only thing that would prove whose method is successful in the end is time//history, if Lelouch did overthrow them and recreate a new order or system then his method is right, if Suzaku accomplish his grandoise dream of being KoO then his method is right. I'd prefer a wait and see approach on this as the story unfolds |
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2008-08-09, 02:03 | Link #5076 | |
TRUE! Lelouch is dead! XD
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2008-08-09, 02:10 | Link #5077 | |
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In a way, war is nothing but opinions clashing. Whoever wins gets their opinion validated and the loser gets theirs stomped on. To envoke Godwin's law, the Nazi's believed only they were fit to rule, and fought to make that opinion fact. Others fought to uphold equality or whatever range of conflicting viewpoints fall in that line, and they won. Their opinion was deemed right, the other wrong.
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2008-08-09, 02:13 | Link #5078 | |
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2008-08-09, 02:15 | Link #5079 | |
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Honestly, I forget why I argue anything. It's just enjoyable.
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