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Arbane the Terrible · 2009-12-16, 15:52

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Originally Posted by Aebliss

Better change that red for blue. This is a great big world, with things happening in it that will make you quote Shakespeare: "There is more between Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than is dreamt of in your philosophy."

True, but given Kyrie's self-proclaimed envy of Asumu, it seems pretty inlikely.

ErenselTheJester · 2009-12-16, 15:58

Which is what I'm saying.

Aebliss · 2009-12-16, 16:53

If Rudolph sired Battler with a woman other than Asumu and Kyrie and the mom gave Battler to Asumu, however, or someone helped to swap baby Battler for a stillborn child of Asumu's, we're back in the territory Horatio needs to be introduced to.

Muyasuki · 2009-12-16, 16:56

Spoiler for Maybe?:

Aebliss · 2009-12-16, 17:00

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Originally Posted by Muyasuki

Spoiler for Maybe?:

o_o That's a new twist. It's not completely impossible, either.

Marion · 2009-12-16, 17:02

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Originally Posted by Muyasuki

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In the game Battler states: "Battler Ushiromiya was born from Asumu Ushiromiya"

so there has to be a 'Battler' born from Asumu. Unless they decided to name the girl Battler

Aebliss · 2009-12-16, 17:06

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Originally Posted by Marion

In the game Battler states: "Battler Ushiromiya was born from Asumu Ushiromiya"

so there has to be a 'Battler' born from Asumu. Unless they decided to name the girl Battler

*shrug* A girl was called Tohru, once.

momobunny · 2009-12-16, 17:41

And Otoko... sure it was 音子, but it still sounded like "man". >__>

Muyasuki · 2009-12-16, 18:14

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Originally Posted by Marion

In the game Battler states: "Battler Ushiromiya was born from Asumu Ushiromiya"

so there has to be a 'Battler' born from Asumu. Unless they decided to name the girl Battler

Isn't there supposedly another way that Battler can be read in japanese or something. If not, then you could just as easily swap out girl with sickly boy who seemed as if he would soon die. Instead of growing up to be Shannon, in this case, it'd be Kanon.

Edit: Actually, you might even be able to include Jessica as an alternative considering that her and Battler are around the same age and her mom and dad were having trouble conceiving. This might also put Rudolph and/or Kyrie as an accomplish as well if either of them learnt about this "deal" between them and Asumu.

momobunny · 2009-12-16, 19:10

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Originally Posted by Muyasuki

Isn't there supposedly another way that Battler can be read in japanese or something. If not, then you could just as easily swap out girl with sickly boy who seemed as if he would soon die. Instead of growing up to be Shannon, in this case, it'd be Kanon.

Another way to read "戦人" is "Sento"... the kanji means "fighting person/war person/soldier" so... yeah, not a very traditionally feminine name.

Marion · 2009-12-16, 19:22

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Originally Posted by Aebliss

*shrug* A girl was called Tohru, once.

Well Tohru is a more unisex name than Battler

I wouldn't surprised it being used on a girl, but Battler on the other hand..

Dlanor A. Knox · 2009-12-17, 01:09

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Originally Posted by ErenselTheJester

Two women with same man cooperating so that one could have that man? That's a chance with the percentage of zero.

who said that they are cooperating? if Asumu swapped the Battlers then Kyrie wouldnt know about it right?

sorvey · 2009-12-17, 01:52

I'm not 100% sure but wasn't it mentioned that Kyrie's child was stillborn, which would make it pretty obvious if a switch took place.

Jan-Poo · 2009-12-17, 06:41

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Originally Posted by Muyasuki

Isn't there supposedly another way that Battler can be read in japanese or something. If not, then you could just as easily swap out girl with sickly boy who seemed as if he would soon die. Instead of growing up to be Shannon, in this case, it'd be Kanon.

The problem with this is that it only works in a written format. But as far as the story goes the red text is automatically generated as people "speak". So when Battler says that Battler Ushiromiya was born from Asumu he uses the "Batora" pronounce.

ErenselTheJester · 2009-12-17, 22:19

Again, The chances of a child swap are highly unlikely. So, there is no way that two women would willingly swap their children. Kyrie had Ange. So, that also lowers the chance of a child swap since Kyrie already had a child from six years ago. The truth is that Battler simply doesn't exist, since he himself doesn't have a mother for which he is born.

k//eternal · 2009-12-17, 22:26

You know, it's kind of impolite to use red for your theories. A few people do it, but it really ought to just be reserved for in-game red.

ErenselTheJester · 2009-12-17, 22:28

Its because I'm a demon that I have knack for these things really. I can't find myself to use the blue, its too subjective and makes me feel mortal. I don't like it. I know to you its better to reserver for the game, but I can't help it, especially when what I say is the truth.

Tyabann · 2009-12-17, 22:31

No, seriously, it's annoying, overbearing, and pretentious. Stop it.

ErenselTheJester · 2009-12-17, 22:34

Are you asking or ordering me?

Tyabann · 2009-12-17, 22:36

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Originally Posted by ErenselTheJester

Are you asking or ordering me?

The answer depends on subjective interpretation.

2009-12-16, 16:56	Link #984
Muyasuki Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Age: 34	Spoiler for Maybe?: With a little more time to think on it, is it possible that Battler is Kyrie's son and but Asumu didn't give birth to a still born. More along the lines that she had a GIRL or something but a boy would be seen as more desirable to inherit the fortune. Doing this, she swapped her girl with Kyrie's son, somehow got someone to convince Kyrie that she had a stillborn and put her real daughter up for adoption. I don't know if I spoiled anything as I am going off of the little of the manga I've read and current episodes. The girl would be Shannon and she learns of this six years ago accidently as a result of Battler forsaking the name. Probably from whoever swapped Battler and her in the first place (Nanjo).

2009-12-16, 17:41	Link #988
momobunny ◔ ◡ ◔ Artist Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ImaginaryLand Age: 33	And Otoko... sure it was 音子, but it still sounded like "man". >__> __________________

2009-12-16, 15:58	Link #982
ErenselTheJester Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: In the Meta- World... on Virgillia's bed.	Which is what I'm saying.

2009-12-16, 16:53	Link #983
Aebliss Story Master Join Date: Mar 2008	If Rudolph sired Battler with a woman other than Asumu and Kyrie and the mom gave Battler to Asumu, however, or someone helped to swap baby Battler for a stillborn child of Asumu's, we're back in the territory Horatio needs to be introduced to.

2009-12-17, 01:52	Link #993
sorvey Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2009	I'm not 100% sure but wasn't it mentioned that Kyrie's child was stillborn, which would make it pretty obvious if a switch took place.

2009-12-17, 22:19	Link #995
ErenselTheJester Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: In the Meta- World... on Virgillia's bed.	Again, The chances of a child swap are highly unlikely. So, there is no way that two women would willingly swap their children. Kyrie had Ange. So, that also lowers the chance of a child swap since Kyrie already had a child from six years ago. The truth is that Battler simply doesn't exist, since he himself doesn't have a mother for which he is born.

2009-12-17, 22:26	Link #996
k//eternal do you know ベアトリーチェ様? Join Date: Dec 2003 Age: 35	You know, it's kind of impolite to use red for your theories. A few people do it, but it really ought to just be reserved for in-game red.

2009-12-17, 22:28	Link #997
ErenselTheJester Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: In the Meta- World... on Virgillia's bed.	Its because I'm a demon that I have knack for these things really. I can't find myself to use the blue, its too subjective and makes me feel mortal. I don't like it. I know to you its better to reserver for the game, but I can't help it, especially when what I say is the truth.

2009-12-17, 22:31	Link #998
Tyabann Homo Ludens Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Age: 34	No, seriously, it's annoying, overbearing, and pretentious. Stop it.

2009-12-17, 22:34	Link #999
ErenselTheJester Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: In the Meta- World... on Virgillia's bed.	Are you asking or ordering me?