2012-12-16, 14:18 | Link #3521 | |
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But of course, that's the reality. I am well aware that because most Americans don't vote, that the weapon fanatics can decide an election just by bothering to show up to the booth. The ban won't pass of course; it's just the usual that goes through every time a bunch of American children dies. No one actually believes America would change in any way. As we said recently, there is no Progressives in American politics anymore.
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2012-12-16, 14:28 | Link #3522 | ||||
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There are a lot of reasons for every individual in every country to vote the way they do, ranging from everything including social issues, religious issues, to who they think looks cuter, it's their right, and it's certainly not up to you to dictate what should or should not be used as a criteria in their decision making process. Quote:
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2012-12-16, 14:29 | Link #3523 | |
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Finally, a state that understands the situation and how to stop it or at least lessen it considerably. State House passes bill allowing concealed weapons in schools, day care centers, stadiums, churches http://www.wzzm13.com/news/article/2...ons-in-schools And to further back up my point. Here was yet another shooting yesterday. This time a hospital in Georgia. The shooter was prompted "neutralized" by an armed police officer. Gunman dead after Alabama shooting http://www.wzzm13.com/news/article/2...abama-shooting Politically, I am of the opinion that any politician who backs new gun control will lose in 2014 if they're up for re-election.
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2012-12-16, 14:40 | Link #3524 | |
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It simply a way to give a false sence of security to some, increase the over-presence of gun in the US and let's not forget about the gun culture ever so presente.
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2012-12-16, 14:53 | Link #3526 | |||
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And yes, I do know many non-US citizens who holds views on both sides(considering that a good deal of my family doesn't live in the US). And no, they don't just think it's "asinine", as they can actually manage to talk and debate the issue without resorting to rancor and petty insults. Every country have unique and serious issues to deal with in their politics, how you can remotely begin to use that as some sort of negative mark is beyond me. For example, what other country besides Taiwan has to deal with the ever-present threat of a Chinese invasion? even Mexico has its own unique set of problems to deal with. |
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2012-12-16, 15:03 | Link #3527 | |
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If Taiwan gets invaded, it ceases to exist. You are saying to lose your precious guns means America would die... Which I guess, I HAVE heard online very frequently. In the same breath as claiming Obama is a communist dictator. And that's why I say it is asinine. You actually believe your assault rifles is the reason you can still be safe in your own country. That says more about America than anything else. Note that the same mentality exists in the likes of Afghanistan.
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2012-12-16, 15:06 | Link #3528 | |
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AR-15s are not assault rifles (the AR stands for Armalite, the company that makes it). So what are you talking about?
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2012-12-16, 15:11 | Link #3529 | ||
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2012-12-16, 15:13 | Link #3530 | |
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2012-12-16, 15:15 | Link #3531 | ||||
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No, that's just you trying to twist my words and put new ones in my mouth. Please read through both my response and what I was responding TO first thoroughly before you start jumping to conclusions. Here, let me try to make it as simple as possible so you can follow: Ogon stated that gun control even being an issue is by itself bad. I disagreed, as every country has their own unique circumstances that leads to a unique set of issues to deal with, and provided some examples. How can that possibly equate to me saying gun control = invasion is beyond me. And please, stop trying to act like you even remotely know what my believes are or what I think about safety in America in general. You're so blinded by your own preconceptions you can't see out past your own bubble, which ironically makes you behave exactly like the extremists on the other side which you despise so much. Quote:
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2012-12-16, 15:24 | Link #3534 |
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No, but you said you had no idea how they could be equated. That's how. Only two are mentioned: 1 for America, 1 for Taiwan. America's was gun control, Taiwan's was being invaded by China. Therefore, the two are automatically in comparison for being equal issues, at least for their respective countries.
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2012-12-16, 15:25 | Link #3535 | |||
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2012-12-16, 15:37 | Link #3536 |
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So, those trained gun owners... will they know each other? Because that's the point that's always stumped me. Assuming a psycho starts shooting people at random, and several well intentioned gun owners jump into the fray (instead of the saner reaction of crawling away in wet pants), how will they know the good guys from the psycho's possible accomplices?
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2012-12-16, 15:45 | Link #3537 | |||
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FFS, actually read through what I wrote and stop jumping to conclusions. And yes, I'm quite aware of the old AWB, maybe you're simply not familiar with weapons in general, but most of the stuff on that list has more to do with the look and form of the weapon than their core capability. Quote:
For example. assuming a mall shooting scenario. A CCW holder should not seek out and confront the shooter if he/she is not in immediate danger, but rather seek cover and protection like everyone else, the weapon is what he/she should use should the shooter comes to them. On the other hand, in clear cases where the shooter started blasting rounds right in front of the ccw holder, he/she will have the option to fire back if they should choose. |
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2012-12-16, 16:51 | Link #3539 |
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I prefer John Kerry as Obama's pick to replace Hilary, so I hope this source is correct. For all that I disagree with Kerry on, I agree with many of his foreign policy stances (especially when it comes to getting US jobs back into the united states).
Source: Obama has chosen John Kerry as Secretary of State http://www.suntimes.com/17019560-761...-of-state.html
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2012-12-16, 17:10 | Link #3540 | |
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