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Old 2014-08-03, 09:15   Link #2121
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By the way in their travel through Bergatti continent. Erinarize came along and left Cliff behind. Does that mean that she was doing the "usual"?
Unfortunately for cliff, yes she does. Poor guy. Also, the Lodoss Tou-Senki references are so subtle, I can't believe I missed them.

V12 was heavy on Erinarize character development


Also, 9.3 either tonight or sometime Monday.
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Old 2014-08-03, 09:21   Link #2122
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also, 9.3 either tonight or sometime monday.
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Old 2014-08-03, 09:31   Link #2123
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Also, 9.3 either tonight or sometime Monday.

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Old 2014-08-03, 09:52   Link #2124
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Unfortunately for cliff, yes she does. Poor guy. Also, the Lodoss Tou-Senki references are so subtle, I can't believe I missed them.

V12 was heavy on Erinarize character development


Also, 9.3 either tonight or sometime Monday.
so is there any possibility that it is not cliff's child. and i believe that millis hate magic race i wonder how they will treat Erinarize there. Furthemore maybe her reputation has already reach there.
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Old 2014-08-03, 09:58   Link #2125
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so is there any possibility that it is not cliff's child. and i believe that millis hate magic race i wonder how they will treat Erinarize there. Furthemore maybe her reputation has already reach there.
It is Cliff's child, he confirmed it with his Identification demon eye he got from Kirishika.
Besides, Elves are not magic race, as far as I know they and dwarves are generally counted as beast race since they also live in the Great Forest.
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Old 2014-08-03, 10:30   Link #2126
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^ Wait, Cliff has a demon eye he got from Kirishika? When did that happen?
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Old 2014-08-03, 10:46   Link #2127
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Unfortunately for cliff, yes she does. Poor guy. Also, the Lodoss Tou-Senki references are so subtle, I can't believe I missed them.

V12 was heavy on Erinarize character development


Also, 9.3 either tonight or sometime Monday.
LOL just read it.

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Old 2014-08-03, 11:18   Link #2128
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^ Wait, Cliff has a demon eye he got from Kirishika? When did that happen?
In vol 15.

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Old 2014-08-03, 11:44   Link #2129
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^how did that go
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Old 2014-08-03, 11:53   Link #2130
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^how did that go
They failed, she died and everything went to hell in a handbasket. How do you think it went? That's vol 15 of 20 and this isn't Akame ga Kiru.

Wonder when we'll see Bardy again? And Rudy's infamy just keeps growing especially with that organization he helped found in vol 19.
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Old 2014-08-03, 12:04   Link #2131
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Is there a proper translation for this light novel or is everyone still using machine translation?
If there is a proper translation can anyone post the link?
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Old 2014-08-03, 12:35   Link #2132
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Is there a proper translation for this light novel or is everyone still using machine translation?
If there is a proper translation can anyone post the link?
Proper translation, if you mean translation by person yes. The first 8 volumes on Baka-Tsuki are fully translated and were done in person I believe. The ones done by machines are either the previews and such.

Also, I wanted to ask for another spoiler, as of volume 19, how strong is Rudeus? I read some of the chapters of 19, but it didn't give me a clear understanding. Surely he must be an equal to Perguis or near him right?
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Old 2014-08-03, 12:43   Link #2133
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Proper translation, if you mean translation by person yes. The first 8 volumes on Baka-Tsuki are fully translated and were done in person I believe. The ones done by machines are either the previews and such.

Also, I wanted to ask for another spoiler, as of volume 19, how strong is Rudeus? I read some of the chapters of 19, but it didn't give me a clear understanding. Surely he must be an equal to Perguis or near him right?
Am not sure about him being on perguis level but
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Old 2014-08-03, 12:54   Link #2134
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Am not sure about him being on perguis level but
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Old 2014-08-03, 13:01   Link #2135
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Am not sure about him being on perguis level but
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Old 2014-08-03, 13:21   Link #2136
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From what I am understanding, Water and Earth are high tier class elements. Fire, I believe was mentioned to be an easier magic which consumes less mana. Ice seems to be one of the highest of tier, Rudeus mentioned that mana usage increases when trying to do magic that is of lower temperature. So, the colder the temperature, the more mana consumption is what I read.
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Old 2014-08-03, 13:37   Link #2137
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From what I am understanding, Water and Earth are high tier class elements. Fire, I believe was mentioned to be an easier magic which consumes less mana. Ice seems to be one of the highest of tier, Rudeus mentioned that mana usage increases when trying to do magic that is of lower temperature. So, the colder the temperature, the more mana consumption is what I read.
Not sure how you came to this conclusion, but for fire magic, the higher the temperature, the more mana one has to use.
Simply put, the more he tries to modify the original spell, the more mana it consumes. For rock bullet, changing bullet shape, increasing hardness, rotation speed and firing speed, consumes greater amount of mana than simply firing a normal rock bullet.
He can basically put more mana into all spells to make them stronger, if he modified a fire ball as much the rock bullet used against Badi Gadi, it'd consume similar amounts of mana.
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Old 2014-08-03, 13:38   Link #2138
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From what I am understanding, Water and Earth are high tier class elements. Fire, I believe was mentioned to be an easier magic which consumes less mana. Ice seems to be one of the highest of tier, Rudeus mentioned that mana usage increases when trying to do magic that is of lower temperature. So, the colder the temperature, the more mana consumption is what I read.
I think it was explained that mana usage goes up when they try to adjust the parameters away from the base spells.

Making more or less water, making ice warmer or colder, making the fire smaller or larger, ect all use more mana.

The elementry spells/rituals could be considered the most efficient spells
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Old 2014-08-03, 13:48   Link #2139
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Yeah, my bad, I reread volume 1. The amount of mana consumption goes like this: Temperature, Size, Accuracy, and Speed.

If you increase or decrease temperature, more mana will be consume. Making a spell smaller will also increase mana consumption. The same goes for how precise a spell is directed as well increasing speed of a spell will result in increase mana consumption.

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Old 2014-08-03, 14:14   Link #2140
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Why do I have this nagging feeling that these new people who are trying to flood Mushoku Tensei in B-T with machine translations doesn't even read the story, or don't understand the story up to where they're trying to slap on B-T..
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