2013-02-14, 08:23 | Link #61 |
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Isn't wood-element simply the bloodline combination of earth and water? Much like others who have combined to elements, water and wind for Haku's ice-element. Another example is earth and fire to produce lava-element. In the case of wood-element it can create real trees thus life.
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2013-02-14, 09:04 | Link #62 | ||
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2013-02-14, 12:05 | Link #63 | |
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Minato probably remembers his conversation with Naruto within his mind but afterwards that energy dissipated. When he told the other Hokage he didn't know what was going on with the village and the world he meant since his last interaction with Naruto. That was a special moment in the series so it's unlikely that Kishimoto would let Minato forget that just because he split up his energy between Naruto's seal and the Death God. Also I think it's obvious that the Hokage are going to join the battle. They aren't just there to tell Sasuke stuff, they are going to help out and the Kyuubi will probably get back the rest of his chakra if he hasn't already.
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2013-02-14, 14:10 | Link #64 | |||
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i halfway doubt it. the snake sage technique requires a special body that kabuto got through dna manipulation from juugo. orochimaru wanted sasukes body for this purpose. since nothing should have really changed in orochi, unless he assimilated juugo's cells when he pulled his chakra out of kabuto, then he should still be unable to use snake sage mode. of course kishi can write it either way at this point. it's 50/50 |
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2013-02-14, 14:18 | Link #65 |
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Hashirama is living up to the hype pretty well. In fact, I feel that these chapters are all about fulfilling Hashirama's hype; having Hiruzen getting his knickers in a bunch and Tobirama acting impulsive and short-sighted while Hashirama shows the clarity and vision to see beneath the surface. Minato Sue is typically flawless (and as characterless as ever).
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2013-02-14, 14:52 | Link #66 | |
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The Senjuu, as already explained, were masters of all types of jutsus (nin, gen and tai), unlike the Uchiha who are jack-of-all-trades with deathbeam eyes. They were the ultimate renaissance ninja. Will they undoubtedly have some extra gimmick? Probably (my guess is extra potent/powerful nature manipulation, that would go along with Hashirama and Tobirama quite nicely). But, even if they do not, it is easy to see how a diverse clan of multiple mastered elements and techniques would be able to combat any singular clan who have only mastered a few (powerful) techniques. |
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2013-02-14, 15:34 | Link #67 | ||
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BTW i wonder if Orochimaru will turn himself into a monster with 100 sharingan eyes in the end or will he remain like he is now, Sasuke counselor. I don't see how else could those hundreds of sharingan eyes be used if not to create some crazy ass monster that has the eyes and also Hashirama's cells, so possibly hundreds of rinnegan eyes. And now it's either Orochi or Madara+10-tails that could become such a monster. |
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2013-02-14, 16:44 | Link #68 |
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yea i was always under the impression that the senju just had higher abilities, since tobirama's ability was the power to create so much water, which was apparently (at the time) ridiculously impressive
they could literally be amazing "forces of nature" the other translation of this chapter i saw implies that hashirama has escaped orochimaru's control for quite some time now. considering the fact that it's hashirama's soul, in a basic clone of his body, the shodai should be extremely powerful. i'm wondering if having the zetsus as their base will effect their power in any way. Also, i think minato does remember his meeting with naruto, because he recognizes naruto's chakra, and i'm not sure how he would explain "i remember your chakra from when you were a baby" do babies even have the ability to use chakra?
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2013-02-14, 18:55 | Link #69 | ||
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2013-02-14, 19:33 | Link #70 | |
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the senju may very well have or obviously have special chakra in their bodies/muscles much like the uchiha have in their brains...i feel like thats the gimmick. supercharged ability to manipulate chakra. i cant really explain it as eloquently as id like but the senju rival the uchiha cuz they hit harder/are tougher. madara summons susanoo, hashirama busts it open with the first rasengan (last panel)...just speculating
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2013-02-14, 23:18 | Link #71 |
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I thought it was rather amusing how everyone seemed to forget that Hashirama was the guy that beat Madara until he got a little annoyed and they all soiled themselves. I mean seriously the kage are like gum on that guys shoe, he's like edo tensei? yea thanks for bringing me back and all but you control nuthin!
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2013-02-15, 05:07 | Link #72 |
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Oro transfers to body full of Hashirama cells: gets extra power for controlling Zombies
Hashirama resurrected into body full of Hashirama cells: can use them to break control 3 others resurrected into body full of Hashirama cells: has no effect Unlucky fellas
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2013-02-15, 11:58 | Link #74 |
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Given that the Zetsu clones are from Hashirama's own cells, it makes sense that he would be powerful as he was originally. While Tobirama's cells are indeed Senjuu, they're still his brother's cells the host has and not his, so that would probably be why he couldn't break from Edo Tensei as easily as he thought.
Hashirama seems like a genuinely good guy, which explains why he was able to eventually reconcile with the Uchiha -- Tobirama must view his brother as simply naive. I do like this idea though that Edo Tensei is more like a joke to Hashirama, after all Madara was able to manipulate it so he would be in charge. I suspect he was able to do this before but didn't bother as Kabuto gave him free reign from the onset.
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2013-02-15, 12:57 | Link #76 | |
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madara says the danger in the edo tensei is summoning someone who knows the seal. i thing madara could have broke anytime...he just didnt because there was no need to rush into doings so since he wasnt aware of the likes of ninja like itachi... but if this is true perhaps tobirama would have broken out by now so i dont really know
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2013-02-15, 13:10 | Link #77 |
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Well, either way, I understand that it's a simple matter of "knowing how to". And if Madara knows, there is a fair chance that Hashirama knows as well. Of course, that's where my question comes from. "Can he do it?"
Although somehow I doubt that situation will arise any time soon. Also it seems Orochimaru's spell is stronger than Kabuto's version, since he was able to restrain Tobirama. It also makes me wonder about the method that can be used to end Madara's undead life. If Itachi is correct, a method does exist. |
2013-02-15, 16:32 | Link #78 | |
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However Madara was never forced by Kabuto to do anything, he was free to act from the beginning, so my guess is that if Madara wanted to he could have forced himself out of Kabuto's control. Reading this chapter my impression was that Orochimaru confirmed that he simply can't control Hashirama at all, so Hashirama is the only one who broke out of the Edo Tensei (neither did Itachi break out, Shisui's eye simply layered a genjutsu on top of Kabuto's Edo tensei). So i think the author wanted to say with this that Hashirama was really the strongest ever, not counting the godlike sage of 6 paths of course. Of course that's the past, the rinnegan-Madara won't be as easy to beat when Hashirama joins the war, i guess it will take all 4 hokages and Naruto to take him down. |
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2013-02-15, 20:31 | Link #80 | |
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i agree. that is until/if he manages to become the 10tails jinchuriki
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