(L) Monogatari Series Light Novel discussion

[omimon]

Originally Posted by Romanticide

I doubt she'd stay alive Prime. If Hitagi and Shinobu have any say in it......we all know Koyomi would try to save her.

Wrong, Hitagi doesn't have any say in it because she's a powerless human.

My guess of what will happen in their final battle is that Nadeko asks Hitagi to kill herself in accordance to their agreement for not killing Shinobu and Araragi during their initial battle. Hitagi finds some loophole and Nadeko expects it. Araragi tries one last time to talk her out of fighting but Nadeko has her mind set. Shinobu doesn't hesitate for a second and goes straight for the kill. Nadeko having powered up during the last four months is able to fight evenly with her. That's as far as I'm going to predict.

[Romanticide]

I know Hitagi's powerless, but she can still have some say in things. -_-;

[omimon]

Originally Posted by Romanticide

I know Hitagi's powerless, but she can still have some say in things. -_-;

You know what would be really messed up? If Araragi gets extremely wounded from Nadeko and Senjougahara sacrifice herself and lets him eat her so he could power up. Taking being one with him to a whole another level.

[Romanticide]

How would that power him up? Wouldn't Shinobu have to tell him how first? That gives me an idea though, about what Kissshot did with the first servant's body if it wasn't completely vaporized......

[HasuMasu]

Maybe she ate it, it's still food after all.

That idea about Hitagi getting eaten is kinda...

[applejuice]

Knowing Hanamonogatari (which is placed after the event of Koimonogatari), I'm glad that everything will stay exactly as it was except poor Nadeko and Mayoi. In Hanamonogatari, I think Nadeko was the only one who was not even mentioned in the novel.

If Tore-sama is fine, everything is fine.

[Kunagisa]

Originally Posted by applejuice

Knowing Hanamonogatari (which is placed after the event of Koimonogatari), I'm glad that everything will stay exactly as it was except poor Nadeko and Mayoi. In Hanamonogatari, I think Nadeko was the only one who was not even mentioned in the novel.

If Tore-sama is fine, everything is fine.

Nisio and good end rarely happens (I count one so far) out of all his work. The other 2 are unfinished (but heading toward bad iirc), and another 1's confirmed bad end. Nobody (important) will die anymore I don't think, but Nisio will ruin your life just the same. Watch at the end of Koi, Hitagi and Araragi break up because love doesn't mean they will stay together. I would rage so hard if the story flash forward 10 years, Hitagi marries someone else and have a baby and reflect back her love with Araragi.

I never trust Nisio with good end or predictable end until I actually see it ... despite everything that's said in Hana.

[omimon]

Originally Posted by stuopidget

Nisio and good end rarely happens (I count one so far) out of all his work. The other 2 are unfinished (but heading toward bad iirc), and another 1's confirmed bad end. Nobody (important) will die anymore I don't think, but Nisio will ruin your life just the same. Watch at the end of Koi, Hitagi and Araragi break up because love doesn't mean they will stay together. I would rage so hard if the story flash forward 10 years, Hitagi marries someone else and have a baby and reflect back her love with Araragi.

I never trust Nisio with good end or predictable end until I actually see it ... despite everything that's said in Hana.

I would lol so hard if that happens. Truthfully, in Hana it didn't say anything about them breaking up but at the same time it didn't say anything that they were still together. Hitagi seems to be still alive but can we really feel safe about that?

[Westlo]

Does a good end even matter right now? I mean Nisio has expressed interest in making another "season" of novels for this franchise.... You're not safe until the final novel is done and no more sequels come out...

[omimon]

Originally Posted by Westlo

Does a good end even matter right now? I mean Nisio has expressed interest in making another "season" of novels for this franchise.... You're not safe until the final novel is done and no more sequels come out...

True, there are still so many mysteries left and there is no way Koi can answer it all.
-What was the job Araragi and Kanbaru did during Shiro?
-Who is Ougi really? And what happened when she/he met Araragi for the first time?
-The final battle with Nadeko

[Kunagisa]

Originally Posted by Westlo

Does a good end even matter right now? I mean Nisio has expressed interest in making another "season" of novels for this franchise.... You're not safe until the final novel is done and no more sequels come out...

I think Koi is the end of the series though. Another season is more like Maniwagatari to Katanagatari, and Ningen Series to Zaregoto. Araragi + any of the main cast might make cameos appearances but I don't think Nisio will write more about them.

At least, I hope he doesn't. I'm kinda itching for him to start a new series actually, or at least go back and finish Sekai or Risuka so I can marathon 'em =(.

[Romanticide]

I was wondering....since Shinobu isn't at her complete form, could that be why she didn't remember the First's name?

[HasuMasu]

Could be, then again it was a long time ago, wouldn't it be normal to forget?

[Romanticide]

Well, she remembers other things, like Kurayami, which was the reason she turned him into a vampire in the first place. And she knows about Yumewatari, even if she doesn't have it.
I wonder if Kurayami will appear and punish Nadeko? If Kurayami speaks maybe we can get info on the first.

[applejuice]

Originally Posted by stuopidget

Nisio and good end rarely happens (I count one so far) out of all his work. The other 2 are unfinished (but heading toward bad iirc), and another 1's confirmed bad end. Nobody (important) will die anymore I don't think, but Nisio will ruin your life just the same. Watch at the end of Koi, Hitagi and Araragi break up because love doesn't mean they will stay together. I would rage so hard if the story flash forward 10 years, Hitagi marries someone else and have a baby and reflect back her love with Araragi.

I never trust Nisio with good end or predictable end until I actually see it ... despite everything that's said in Hana.

I don't care. In monogatari series, he has already killed all the characters in indirect and distorted way, even Hitagi. As long as Nisioisin doesn't write 3rd series of this series, I don't mind.

[omimon]

Originally Posted by applejuice

You might call that shit-engrish instead if you want. u.u~

I think Detective-san wants to know why you don't want a 3rd series?

[HasuMasu]

Well, that, and it's interesting how he said everyone was dead anyway, though I'm not sure what that means.

[Romanticide]

How are they all dead? The only one to die was Mayoi, and she was already dead.

[applejuice]

Originally Posted by omimon

I think Detective-san wants to know why you don't want a 3rd series?

Ah. That will give opportunity for Nisioisin to actually kill everyone. Simple as that. :P

Originally Posted by Romanticide

How are they all dead? The only one to die was Mayoi, and she was already dead.

She dies again. You will know what I mean if you read Onimonogatari.

[Romanticide]

I'm pretty sure she just moves on to the afterlife.