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abazou · 2008-03-04, 15:32

i dunno guys but there's no way Orochimaru dies that easily unless this part was meant just to separate his powers from sasuke's for the rest of the series.

Sakuranbo · 2008-03-04, 15:35

Yes as if the Sasuke-obsessed fangirl who is holding Kishimoto hostage would ever allow such a thing to happen! I can't believe Orochimaru would appear, only to be vanquished second later, what a joke. And Kishimoto has seriously mastered the art of prolonging the inevitable, by painfully stretching one fight into a series of several chapters/arcs. Oh and Sasuke loses his godliness, never! As if Sasuke-obsessed fangirl would let that happen!

james0246 · 2008-03-04, 15:41

Oorchimaru is going to get out (of Saasuke), possess Itachi, and then, once Itachi's body has become his own, steal Sasuke's eyes giving Orochimaru the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan. Then, as Sasuke is twitching on the ground, screaming bloody murder at Orochimaru (in Itachi's body), Orochi-kun will gaze down on the twitching Sasuke and comment "Look at were your vengeance got you Sasuke. KuKuKu (or whatever diabolical speech and laugh he would intone)."

And then I woke up from this pleasant, undoubtedly fanfiction inspired, dream.

A Fool can dream, can't they?

Sakuranbo · 2008-03-04, 15:50

That was beautiful

I only wish that would be confirmed as the actual 392 turn out

Sagittarius · 2008-03-04, 16:05

This fight as Hunter said, has turned into something AWESOME, and its about time. I like the ridding of Orochimaru, and the fact it appears as if Itachi will succeed (only to be thwarted we all know).

To comment, Orochimaru would never want to take over Itachi's body, who would want those over abused bloody eyes. No Thanks

Suna no tate · 2008-03-04, 16:06

see I think kishi has dug himself a hole now. there is no right way sasuke can win seeing as

1) he's out of chakra (despite never having taken damage during this entire fight)
2) he gave into orochimaru a move of absolute desperation

what can kishi possibly come up with to save sasuke save some massive massive massive hack like a chakra restore no jutsu or better yet chakra steal no jutsu.

Mists · 2008-03-04, 16:23

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Originally Posted by Suna no tate

see I think kishi has dug himself a hole now. there is no right way sasuke can win seeing as

1) he's out of chakra
2) he gave into orochimaru a move of absolute desperation

what can kishi possibly come up with to save sasuke save some massive massive massive hack like a chakra restore no jutsu or better yet chakra steal no jutsu.

You're kidding, right? Kishi knows exactly how this is going to go and he knows how Sasuke will survive!

We all know he'll survive. We all know Itachi is doomed...

I still can't but help be super critical on Kishi's plotting though.

WTF!

Oro comes out of Sasuke's body and says "NOW I CAN TAKE OVER HIS BODY! THANKS!" And attacks Itachi? WHy not just take over right there and then? It doesn't make any sense...he's been so dumbed down like Kazuzu!

Kazuzu turned into a grunting machine once Naruto showed up.

I still wish to see how Oro reacts to Jiaraya's death and Sasuke's role in that. Plus there needs to be more info on Oro in Akatsuki.

I can't believe Kishi would just throw away such a character, again no less.

As for Itachi, this is do or die for him. Sasuke could just run away or fight wielding the swords, I don't think Itachi could keep up with his blindness.

I still don't get why Zetsu is there. I mean it doesn't even seem like he's rooting for anyone. If sasuke dies, whatever, if Itachi dies, whatever...

How could Madara be dumb to let such useful ninjas just die?

Blah Kishi...what happened!?!?

james0246 · 2008-03-04, 16:23

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Originally Posted by Sagittarius

This fight as Hunter said, has turned into something AWESOME, and its about time. I like the ridding of Orochimaru, and the fact it appears as if Itachi will succeed (only to be thwarted we all know).

To comment, Orochimaru would never want to take over Itachi's body, who would want those over abused bloody eyes. No Thanks

All he would have to do is take over the body, and then take Sasuke's eyes. It is as simple as that. In fact, if Orochimaru is at true full power, and Sasuke is depleted (maybe Orochimaru will control him via the Curse Seal this time), and Itachi is at half or lower strength, then Oorchimaru would be at a great advantage. Orochimaru merely wants Sasuke's eyes, we now know that the Uchiha upgrade their eyes by stealing their brothers, so Orochimaru taking over Itachi and then stealing Sasuke's eyes is exactly what Oorchi-kun has been aiming for since Chapter 50 or so (whenever he attacked Sasuke back in the Forest of Death). This could have all been part of Orochimaru's plan(s).

But, I doubt it. This would be too evil (and somewhat realistic in regards to how Oorchimaru was supposed to be) and totally against Sasuke. Rather, Orochimaru will die in some spectacularly stupid fashion (like last time), or he will simply run away while providing a distraction that let's Sasuke kill Itachi. Nothing truly amazing will result from this, and undoubtedly Sasuke will come out ahead. So, even if the Fight starts turning really good, it will probably still be anti-climatic.

Sagittarius · 2008-03-04, 16:31

See I don't think Orochimaru is in a pick an choose situation, where he can just pick which body parts he wants when he transfers

He could take Itachi's body and then fight Sasuke blind? Even worse I don't think you just take over the body and have full capabilities in weilding the Sharigan effortlessly, I bet it takes practice to weild it effectively, and Sasuke would just own him with Genjutsu.

But yeah I'm just having fun speculating random shit too, mostly because I'm finally pleased with how this fight is finally develloping, even though I wish Itachi gave us a better Taijutsu or physical effort, whatever, at least he's starting to save some face in light of his death.

james0246 · 2008-03-04, 16:39

^ LOL, totally agree.

Suna no tate · 2008-03-04, 16:41

did anyone read the spoiler?

Spoiler for end of spoiler concerning oro:

itachi29al · 2008-03-04, 16:46

Dont know if this was already posted but

Spoiler for 1:

Lunarskylar · 2008-03-04, 16:48

this chapter was just orochimaru fanservice >.<
i guess even with a good tongue
uchiha fanboyism still pwns all

*tear*

well this lil timbit is interesting

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Totsuka no Tsurugi (十拳剣), or "The Sword Ten Hands Long", was first used by Izanagi to kill his son, the fire god Kagutsuchi, who killed his wife, Izanami, during childbirth. After trying to retrieve Izanami from Yomi (the underworld), Izanagi went through a cleansing ritual in which Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, and Susanoo were spawned from his eyes and nose.

More relevant to this chapter of Naruto, the Totsuka no Tsurugi was also used by Susanoo to kill the Yamata no Orochi. The blade of the sword broke as he did this, but within the Yamata no Orochi he found the Kusanagi no Tsurugi.

Medalist · 2008-03-04, 17:06

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Originally Posted by Suna no tate

see I think kishi has dug himself a hole now. there is no right way sasuke can win seeing as

1) he's out of chakra (despite never having taken damage during this entire fight)
2) he gave into orochimaru a move of absolute desperation

what can kishi possibly come up with to save sasuke save some massive massive massive hack like a chakra restore no jutsu or better yet chakra steal no jutsu.

Well I will always refer to that interview that Kishi had, He said that this Sasuke vs. Itachi would end somewhat in a way that would please nearly everyone.

nine_tailed_kyuubi · 2008-03-04, 17:30

hurry up give us the confirmed spoilerrrrrrrr .

Ero-Senn1n · 2008-03-04, 17:31

So Orochimaru is now trapped in some kind of neverending genjutsu in some other dimension because he was pierced with the legendary sword?

As expected Orochimaru looks pathetic when compared to the power of MS, but how in the hell could the 1st hokage defeat Madara i really don't know.

Now it seems that Sasuke will need help against Itachi, not even reaching Madara. I hope it's not team-Hebi that saves him, that would make no sense, they are weak, nowhere near the required level. Madara could be the other one, but i think Madara only respects power, and whoever wins Madara will be on his side. The only left option is that team-Kakashi somehow gets past Madara, and arrives just now.

Or that Itachi reveals his true purpose and does not kill Sasuke, that was my theory before this fight, that Itachi wins but lets Sasuke kill him. However Itachi already tried to kill Sasuke several times, there's no way he could be a not so bad guy.

Deidara_Bang · 2008-03-04, 17:32

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Originally Posted by abazou

i dunno guys but there's no way Orochimaru dies that easily unless this part was meant just to separate his powers from sasuke's for the rest of the series.

i think thats it, remember kabuto is still runnin around. i found it kinda funny how orochimaru just thinks he can show up and take out itachi like that, when the last time he faced him, he go his arm chopped off.

Lunarskylar · 2008-03-04, 17:39

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Originally Posted by nine_tailed_kyuubi

hurry up give us the confirmed spoilerrrrrrrr .

the confirmed spoiler's been posted twice in this thread already

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Originally Posted by Ero-Senn1n

So Orochimaru is now trapped in some kind of neverending genjutsu in some other dimension because he was pierced with the legendary sword?

As expected Orochimaru looks pathetic when compared to the power of MS, but how in the hell could the 1st hokage defeat Madara i really don't know.

Now it seems that Sasuke will need help against Itachi, not even reaching Madara. I hope it's not team-Hebi that saves him, that would make no sense, they are weak, nowhere near the required level. Madara could be the other one, but i think Madara only respects power, and whoever wins Madara will be on his side. The only left option is that team-Kakashi somehow gets past Madara, and arrives just now.

Or that Itachi reveals his true purpose and does not kill Sasuke, that was my theory before this fight, that Itachi wins but lets Sasuke kill him. However Itachi already tried to kill Sasuke several times, there's no way he could be a not so bad guy.

eww, truly no one would expect naruto to slam out of no where, because we assume he's with madara. But kishi could jsut let him bash in, then recall the entire madara fight as a flashback, couldn't he?

naruto89 · 2008-03-04, 17:39

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Originally Posted by nine_tailed_kyuubi

hurry up give us the confirmed spoilerrrrrrrr .

Quote:

Originally Posted by itachi29al

Dont know if this was already posted but

Spoiler for 1:

@ nine-tailed-kyuubi this is the correct spoiler ^^^

the spoilers are true goodbye oro, i guess that finally complete's the mythology regarding oro, as susoono was the one that killed yamato no orochi, i wonder if the kusunagi blade is left behind (which fits in with the mythology) for sasuke to have a miraculous "resolve power up" and slay itachi

that would be a really silly reason for oro to be reintroduced just so sasuke can find a means to combat itachi, but i could see it happening because it would be ridiculous for sasuke to have another trump card, also the kusunagi has never really been explored and considering that itachi is pulling out mythical sword this would be a great time.

also it seems sasuke was holding back oro's power so potentially he could of been way more powerful-er, which will result in a army of fanboy;s bitching about how sasuke handicapped himself, and was fighting itachi and oro at the same time, it seems that kishi just wants to hype sasuke to no end, which I find uber lame considering im an anti sasuke fan

damn lunarskyler beat me to the mythology ages ago

Lunarskylar · 2008-03-04, 17:56

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Originally Posted by naruto89

@ nine-tailed-kyuubi this is the correct spoiler ^^^

the spoilers are true goodbye oro, i guess that finally complete's the mythology regarding oro, as susoono was the one that killed yamato no orochi, i wonder if the kusunagi blade is left behind (which fits in with the mythology) for sasuke to have a miraculous "resolve power up" and slay itachi

that would be a really silly reason for oro to be reintroduced just so sasuke can find a means to combat itachi, but i could see it happening because it would be ridiculous for sasuke to have another trump card, also the kusunagi has never really been explored and considering that itachi is pulling out mythical sword this would be a great time.

also it seems sasuke was holding back oro's power so potentially he could of been way more powerful-er, which will result in a army of fanboy;s bitching about how sasuke handicapped himself, and was fighting itachi and oro at the same time, it seems that kishi just wants to hype sasuke to no end, which I find uber lame considering im an anti sasuke fan

damn lunarskyler beat me to the mythology ages ago

teehee yep
hmm then sasuke wud have 2 swords
then he'd be able to use his hacked korean-uchiha-style
and perform haxxed moved like half shot and butterfly :|

2008-03-04, 15:32	Link #81
abazou Uchiha Avenger Join Date: Apr 2004	i dunno guys but there's no way Orochimaru dies that easily unless this part was meant just to separate his powers from sasuke's for the rest of the series. __________________ http://abazou.deviantart.com/

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Sakuranbo So Like A Rose Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Foxglove Age: 36	Yes as if the Sasuke-obsessed fangirl who is holding Kishimoto hostage would ever allow such a thing to happen! I can't believe Orochimaru would appear, only to be vanquished second later, what a joke. And Kishimoto has seriously mastered the art of prolonging the inevitable, by painfully stretching one fight into a series of several chapters/arcs. Oh and Sasuke loses his godliness, never! As if Sasuke-obsessed fangirl would let that happen! __________________ Formerly KurayamiLeader

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Sakuranbo So Like A Rose Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Foxglove Age: 36	That was beautiful I only wish that would be confirmed as the actual 392 turn out __________________ Formerly KurayamiLeader

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Suna no tate Akatsuki Bart is Tobi Join Date: Oct 2006	see I think kishi has dug himself a hole now. there is no right way sasuke can win seeing as 1) he's out of chakra (despite never having taken damage during this entire fight) 2) he gave into orochimaru a move of absolute desperation what can kishi possibly come up with to save sasuke save some massive massive massive hack like a chakra restore no jutsu or better yet chakra steal no jutsu. Last edited by Suna no tate; 2008-03-04 at 16:19.

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Suna no tate Akatsuki Bart is Tobi Join Date: Oct 2006	did anyone read the spoiler? Spoiler for end of spoiler concerning oro: oro got owned instantly

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james0246 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: East Cupcake	Oorchimaru is going to get out (of Saasuke), possess Itachi, and then, once Itachi's body has become his own, steal Sasuke's eyes giving Orochimaru the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan. Then, as Sasuke is twitching on the ground, screaming bloody murder at Orochimaru (in Itachi's body), Orochi-kun will gaze down on the twitching Sasuke and comment "Look at were your vengeance got you Sasuke. KuKuKu (or whatever diabolical speech and laugh he would intone)." And then I woke up from this pleasant, undoubtedly fanfiction inspired, dream. A Fool can dream, can't they?

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Sagittarius 'One' Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Canada	This fight as Hunter said, has turned into something AWESOME, and its about time. I like the ridding of Orochimaru, and the fact it appears as if Itachi will succeed (only to be thwarted we all know). To comment, Orochimaru would never want to take over Itachi's body, who would want those over abused bloody eyes. No Thanks

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Sagittarius 'One' Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Canada	See I don't think Orochimaru is in a pick an choose situation, where he can just pick which body parts he wants when he transfers He could take Itachi's body and then fight Sasuke blind? Even worse I don't think you just take over the body and have full capabilities in weilding the Sharigan effortlessly, I bet it takes practice to weild it effectively, and Sasuke would just own him with Genjutsu. But yeah I'm just having fun speculating random shit too, mostly because I'm finally pleased with how this fight is finally develloping, even though I wish Itachi gave us a better Taijutsu or physical effort, whatever, at least he's starting to save some face in light of his death.

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james0246 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: East Cupcake	^ LOL, totally agree.

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itachi29al Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: around	Dont know if this was already posted but Spoiler for 1: It's the same that's been posted previously, but this translation is er, more accurate. Amen. EDIT: Inserted pocketmofo's trans for the explanation of what Susanowo looks like... サスケ［スサノオ？] Sasuke: Susanowo? イタチ［月読と天照、二つの能力を開眼した時にこの目に宿ったもう一つの術だ。お前の術はこれで終わりか？隠している力があるなら出し惜しみしなくていいぞ。ここからが本番だ…」 Itachi: A jutsu I acquired upon awakening both Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu. Have any jutsu left? If you do, now's the time to use them, because this is it... ゼツ「空が晴れていく、さっきの術は一発が限界のようだな」 Zetsu: The sky is clearing...looks like that jutsu's just good for one blast... イタチの周りの骨みたいのが実体化してくる。山伏みたいなスタンドみたいだな(笑) The bones around itachi begin to materialize.* pocketmofo's trans on the description for Susanowo: It looks kinda like a monk (called a Yamabushi who generally live deep in the mountains and who Tengu often dress like) or a “stand” out of Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure (laugh). サスケの頭の中で大蛇丸が囁く。 Orochimaru whispers into in Sasuke's mind... 大蛇丸「あげるわ。私が力を貸してあげるわ。」 Orochimaru: I'll be more than glad to share...you can have my power, darling... サスケ［くそっ…」サスケひざまずく。 Sasuke: Dammit! (falls to his knees). 大蛇丸「私が必要なんでしょ…イタチに復習するんじゃなかったの？さぁ私の力を解き放ちなさい。そうすればあなたの願いは…」 Orochimaru: You need me, Yes? Was it not revenge on Itachi you were after? Well then, release my powers...and I shall make your wish come true! サスケの肩から白蛇が膨れ上がる！ﾔﾏﾀﾉ大蛇出現！ White snakes erupt from Sasuke's shoulders! Yamata no Orochi appears! イタチ［この感じ大蛇丸のﾔﾏﾀﾉ術か…」 Itachi: This sensation...Orochimaru's Yamata no Justu... ゼツ「なんだありゃ？サスケ自身のチャクラが無くなったのにも関わらず無理に力を出そうとしたからだ！取り込んで抑えてた大蛇丸のチャクラが表へ…！」 Zetsu: What the hell's happened just now? (the remainder of the dialogue is probably the other Zetsu's answer) Sasuke kept pushing himself despite the fact he was out of chakra, that's what! Orochimaru's chakra, which he'd managed to suppress until now, was set free! スサノオが剣を作る！ Susanowo creates a sword! ﾔﾏﾀﾉ大蛇が襲いかかる。スサノオ剣で頭を切り落とす！残った蛇の口から大蛇丸がでてくる！(笑) Yamata no Orochi attacks! Susanowo chops its heads off! Orochimaru emerges from the mouth of the final snake. 大蛇丸「アハハハーー！ううえっ…」 Orochimaru: Aahahahah! 口から剣を出す。 He produces a sword from his mouth. ゼツ「相変わらず口からゲロゲロとキモイヤツだなぁ。文字通り蛇のようにしつこいヤツだ] Zetsu: Hasn't lost the disgusting habit of spewing in battle... He's persistent, I'll give 'im that. 大蛇丸「これよ！これを待ってたのよ！あなたのおかげでサスケくんの抑えのチャクラが消えてくれたわ！これを機にあの子の体は私が頂く！そして…！え？] Orochimaru: This is it! This is what I've been waiting for! I must thank you for depleting the chakra that restrained me! Now I make this boy's body my own... and then! Eh? スサノオの剣が大蛇丸を貫く！ Susanowo's sword cuts Orochimaru through! 大蛇丸「この程度の攻撃でこの私がやられると思って…！この剣はまさか…十拳剣？イタチアナタが隠しもって …くっ！] Orochimaru: You think an attack such as this is enough to defeat - ! This sword...it can't be... Totsuka no Tsurugi? Itachi, you'd been hiding this ... kuh! 大蛇丸が溶けてなくなる。 Orochimaru melts away into nothing. ゼツ「通りでいくら捜しても見つからないはずだ…実体のない霊剣だったとはな。十拳剣。別名酒刈太刀と呼ばれる封印剣」 Zetsu: No wonder it was nowhere to be found...to think it was a spirit sword devoid of matter...Totsuka no Tsurugi. A sealing sword, also know as ????? (dunno how these characters are supposed to be read: to begin with, I'm not sure the Totsuka no Tsurugi reading, which is the only one I found for those characters, is correct.) ゼツ「突き刺した者を酔夢の幻術世界に永久に飛ばし封じ込めてしまうと呼ばれる…剣そのものが封印術を帯びた草薙剣の一振りだ…ずっと大蛇丸が探していた剣だ…瞳力…それにこれだけの術やっぱりイタチはすっげー強え！ Zetsu: A Kusanagi no Tsurugi embued with Sealing Jutsu, it is said those it pierces are forever sealed away in dreamlike state of genjutsu...Orochimaru's been looking for it forever...He boasts not just Douryoku...but jutsu this powerful as well! Itachi's really something, alright! Douryouku: power of doujutsu (lit. eye power). サスケの体からﾔﾏﾀﾉ大蛇が切り離されスサノオのﾄｯｸﾘ？に吸い込まれていく。サスケひざまずいたまま。 Yamata no Orochi is split from Sasuke's body and swalloed by Susanowo's (turtleneck?). Sasuke remains on his knees. イタチ［仕上げだ…サスケ」 Itachi: It's over...Sasuke. その目を狙いイタチがにじり寄る！ Itachi approaches to claim the eyes! 次号［オレの目…」へ！ Next time: My eyes! __________________

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nine_tailed_kyuubi Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006	hurry up give us the confirmed spoilerrrrrrrr .

2008-03-04, 17:31	Link #96
Ero-Senn1n Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hidden Village of Sake	So Orochimaru is now trapped in some kind of neverending genjutsu in some other dimension because he was pierced with the legendary sword? As expected Orochimaru looks pathetic when compared to the power of MS, but how in the hell could the 1st hokage defeat Madara i really don't know. Now it seems that Sasuke will need help against Itachi, not even reaching Madara. I hope it's not team-Hebi that saves him, that would make no sense, they are weak, nowhere near the required level. Madara could be the other one, but i think Madara only respects power, and whoever wins Madara will be on his side. The only left option is that team-Kakashi somehow gets past Madara, and arrives just now. Or that Itachi reveals his true purpose and does not kill Sasuke, that was my theory before this fight, that Itachi wins but lets Sasuke kill him. However Itachi already tried to kill Sasuke several times, there's no way he could be a not so bad guy.