Character Discussion - Rolo

[ZingFreelancer]

If Rolo had not rescued him in ep 19, he would probably geass the whole room to follow his commands. Only Kallen would stand still and gap.

Also, I like Rolo in a way of his loyalty. Even trough Lelouch rejected him and told him face 2 face that he lied to him and used him. He still wanted to stand by his side until the very end and his sacrifice proved his loyalty.

But of all things, I wish Rolo had seen his shrink more often.

[NyxOne]

He couldn't have. Schneizel was there, and half the present Order members were inside Knightmares. But I digress.

[Aquaman OS]

Lelouch was going to let them kill him had Rolo not interfered. He said so himself.

[Attenborough Cortitc]

Originally Posted by ZingFreelancer

If Rolo had not rescued him in ep 19, he would probably geass the whole room to follow his commands. Only Kallen would stand still and gap.

Also, I like Rolo in a way of his loyalty. Even trough Lelouch rejected him and told him face 2 face that he lied to him and used him. He still wanted to stand by his side until the very end and his sacrifice proved his loyalty.

But of all things, I wish Rolo had seen his shrink more often.

Considering that Lelouch had every reason to hate him in the first place. Seems like Rolo was just in denial.

[Nogitsune]

Originally Posted by Attenborough Cortitc

Considering that Lelouch had every reason to hate him in the first place. Seems like Rolo was just in denial.

Of course he was.
He wasn't exactly the epitome of sanity, after all.
Still, it wasn't his fault that he was a living weapon trying to be human, and Lelouch knew that.
That doesn't mean Rolo wasn't loyal.

[bladeofdarkness]

he didnt ax lulu the second he said that he tried to kill him
thats a plus

[Torri_fay_torren@hot]

My feelings for Rolo though out the series are kind of like Lelouchs I imagene. When he first came in ( When Lelouch first realized the trueth about Rolo) I hated him. I just thought he was useful to be used. Even though I knew about his past I didn't care. Then after the whole Shirly thing I wanted him to die. I hated him so much!! (Like Lelouch) But then to my suprise he saved him in the end. And his little speach was so sad!! In the end brother might have been using me to. But those memories were genuine. Because of that.....
I am not a tool. This is my own will! I was very moved. And when he died I was so saddend that I hadn't gotten to know him before. I wasn't sympathetic at all! It wasn't his fault that he was so messed up! Leave it to CG to make the death of such hated character like Rolo's sad an moving. I never realized that I would come to care for him.

[Spring_sakura111]

Originally Posted by Torri_fay_torren@hot

My feelings for Rolo though out the series are kind of like Lelouchs I imagene. When he first came in ( When Lelouch first realized the trueth about Rolo) I hated him. I just thought he was useful to be used. Even though I knew about his past I didn't care. Then after the whole Shirly thing I wanted him to die. I hated him so much!! (Like Lelouch) But then to my suprise he saved him in the end. And his little speach was so sad!! In the end brother might have been using me to. But those memories were genuine. Because of that.....
I am not a tool. This is my own will! I was very moved. And when he died I was so saddend that I hadn't gotten to know him before. I wasn't sympathetic at all! It wasn't his fault that he was so messed up! Leave it to CG to make the death of such hated character like Rolo's sad an moving. I never realized that I would come to care for him.

I know. The makers really make you like the character at the time of his/her death.

[JesseJamesRocket]

The way I see it though is that Rolo was the same likable, misunderstood, tortured soul all along. It's a shame that only through his death did most people come to like him. His killing Shirley really hurt some people.

[Spring_sakura111]

Originally Posted by JesseJamesRocket

The way I see it though is that Rolo was the same likable, misunderstood, tortured soul all along. It's a shame that only through his death did most people come to like him. His killing Shirley really hurt some people.

Of course. Because it was almost unnecessary and irrational thing that irritated the masses. For Shirley haters , I think they loved him for that.

[Jaime Kordek]

Originally Posted by Spring_sakura111

Of course. Because it was almost unnecessary and irrational thing that irritated the masses. For Shirley haters , I think they loved him for that.

Actually, quite a few Shirley haters immediately converted to Rolo haters when he killed her. It was such a despicable act, and then the final conversation Lelouch had with Shirley, and then Rolo kept surviving for a few episodes. What's truly amazing is that even after that, they managed to make us stop hating Rolo for at least a moment when he died.

[Knight Of Zero]

Originally Posted by Jaime Kordek

Actually, quite a few Shirley haters immediately converted to Rolo haters when he killed her. It was such a despicable act, and then the final conversation Lelouch had with Shirley, and then Rolo kept surviving for a few episodes. What's truly amazing is that even after that, they managed to make us stop hating Rolo for at least a moment when he died.

I never hated Rolo, it her fault for mentioning Nunnally in front of him.

[bladeofdarkness]

I never hated Rolo, it her fault for mentioning Nunnally in front of him.

its her fault that he murdered her without warning or provocation
that he just figured "sure, i know this girl for a long time and i know my brother likes her alot"
"but she said the N word"

that was as rape the dog as it gets
the only thing that saved him from forever being the scrappy is "redemption equals death"

[Rising Dragon]

Originally Posted by bladeofdarkness

that was as rape the dog as it gets
the only thing that saved him from forever being the scrappy is "redemption equals death"

Yeah... its up to the viewer to determine if he was really redeemed.

And he sure as hell isn't redeemed in my eyes.

[Knight Of Zero]

Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

Yeah... its up to the viewer to determine if he was really redeemed.

And he sure as hell isn't redeemed in my eyes.

well than I guess Lelouch isn't redeem in your eyes either, sames goes for Shirley sense death doesn't equal redeem in your view.

[Rising Dragon]

Originally Posted by Knight Of Zero

well than I guess Lelouch isn't redeem in your eyes either, sames goes for Shirley sense death doesn't equal redeem in your view.

Lelouch atoned for his sins, and he wasn't a psychotic assassin who'll kill people just for mentioning someone's name. Shirley had no need to atone and thus had no need to be redeemed through death.

Its like one person said on this thread way back, anyone can be moved by a death scene, but what Rolo displayed was not love, but selfishness. But I'm not gonna get into that with you.

[Knight Of Zero]

Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

Lelouch atoned for his sins, and he wasn't a psychotic assassin who'll kill people just for mentioning someone's name. Shirley had no need to atone and thus had no need to be redeemed through death.

Its like one person said on this thread way back, anyone can be moved by a death scene, but what Rolo displayed was not love, but selfishness. But I'm not gonna get into that with you.

It can't be help that he a little psychotic he was raise to be a psychotic assassin. Your just mad cause he killed Shirley.

[Levy]

Originally Posted by Knight Of Zero

well than I guess Lelouch isn't redeem in your eyes either, sames goes for Shirley sense death doesn't equal redeem in your view.

Well it's an awesome line "He who saves one life saves the world entire...." but I don't think you should compare Rolo saving Lelouch in one moment of heroism to Lelouch planning his own death in one attempt to restart the world.

I don't feel like neither of them is 'redeemed' in my eyes, anyway. The horrible things they have done are still there.

Missing your point about Shirley completely.

EDIT: mh, maybe it can't be helped. But it's up to the viewer to decide if being raised as a psychotic assasin makes you cute and forgivable or not. And frankly, the 'I hate him because he deliberately killed my favourite characters for some reason stupid as hell' is one of the healtiest bias I've seen round this place.

[Levy]

I'm more of the opinion that Rolo was egoist indeed in saving Lelouch, and I do not love his character because I find him kind of boring and a bit pathetic, too, but that's just me.

Now I get it, but I don't think it is a sin. Otherwise is very honorable to have a heart that is able to feel love stronger than hatred.

[bladeofdarkness]

the question is this
would you forgive him if all he did was save lelouch (and not die)
i wouldnt (still dont forgive him for it, but at least i dont hate him as much)