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View Poll Results: Mahouka [LN/M] - Master Clan Conference Arc (Volume 17-19) Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 12 | 25.53% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 10 | 21.28% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 13 | 27.66% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 7 | 14.89% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 3 | 6.38% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 2.13% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 1 | 2.13% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
Voters: 47. You may not vote on this poll |
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2015-09-06, 21:38 | Link #1261 | ||
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2015-09-10, 04:33 | Link #1263 |
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No, the newly released preview is much shorter with less details. It's added that Valentine will start soon and puts emphasis on Tatsuya(as a Yotsuba this time) and Masaki teaming up like in volume 15 unlike the previous one where there were at least Mayumi and Katsuto's name. This is really faster than expected, the cover will be out in exactly one month.
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2015-09-10, 10:49 | Link #1266 | |
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Lol at those saying that "Tatsuya is forced to marry Miyuki,he doesn't love her as a woman,it isn't right",but it's ok for Mayumi to forced her undecided feelings on him,coz I ship them |
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2015-09-10, 11:28 | Link #1267 |
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Can't agree on "everyword". Shizuku mentions becoming Tatsuya's mistress as an option. As the option that would wound both Honoka and Miyuki forever if it succeeds. Her recommendation is giving up on Tatsuya. Did nobody mention that for 60+ pages? Sheesh.
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2015-09-10, 20:58 | Link #1270 | |
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As far as i concern, they are both satisfied just to be with Tatsuya, not monopolize Tatsuya. The bottom line is Shizuku takes both of these two's feeling in consideration and she doesn't focus on robbing Miyuki's happiness: 2 out of 3 are beneficial to Miyuki, the last one focus on helping Honoka not to have any regrets more than winning. P/S: I think others also see advising her friend to give up is right, considering the fiances thingy. And because there is no opposition, there is no discussion and no mentioning.
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2015-09-10, 21:42 | Link #1271 | |
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To CIA. U.S. Army since August 6th, 1945. The Mahouka world is just as much of a dystopia as our real world. BTW, i am not on the receiving end of those so 'Murica!!!!
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2015-09-10, 22:15 | Link #1272 | |
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Random guy:" Hey, bro. Look at the MILF in this manga. What do you think?" Tatsuya: "She is not a magician." Random guy: "....." ..... Random: "What do you think of her as a woman?" Tatsuya: "She is a stylish and alluring woman." Random: "Do you feel anything?" Tatsuy: "You mean in the sexual way?" Random: "So you DO love her!!!" ==== I must have been so bored.
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2015-09-10, 22:49 | Link #1273 | |
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I think Shizuku was so much concerned to see Honoka hurting, that's why she said that mistress option in her desperation to reduce Honoka sadness even just a little bit. She also knew it would also hurt Miyuki; thus, her reasoning was never 'Miyuki will allow it' but 'Yotsuba should need more children.' In the world where mistress is shunned and we don't see TMC have mistress, Shizuku reasoning was quite absurd and no basis whatsoever since she doesn't even know Yotsuba personally; even with Kitayama's resources, she doesn't know anything about Yotsuba. Though I still think it isn't proper of Shizuku to say it; as Honoka best friend, she should just say something like 'pursue Tatsuya like now, I'll help you and if you could get him before he is married, it's great or give up on Tatsuya right now and remains his friend.' When Honoka is emotional because of love sick, Shizuku, as her best friend, should be her voice of reasoning, the logical one. |
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2015-09-10, 23:46 | Link #1274 | |
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Sure there may be some strictness in terms of sexuality in the public display, but considering Maya already plans to support an incestuous couple, I seriously doubt she would care if Tatsuya took a mistress or two. Also your comment regarding Shizuku is kind of stupid considering Honoka is an elemental which works in a similar manner to Kurumi in Rosario Vamp, ie she already targeted and is attached to Tatsuya, its probably not likely for her to be able to move on given the predisposition of elementals, hence her options realistically are to be alone miserable forever, or at least have some time with Tatsuya as a mistress, assuming he would be game. Given his scenario than Shizuku gave her the right advice, because she isn't winning his heart outright. |
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2015-09-10, 23:57 | Link #1275 | |
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And i am not sure if fighting to be a mistress is more severe than fighting to monopolize the man. About the mistress matter, i haven't found that part on wikia. Weird... Anway, here is my thought. -As for the intention: It's more like Shizuku brain-storming bunch of ideas to help Honoka to select a solution for her problems. She just gives possible options, Honoka must be the one to choose since it's her life. And we don't have enough materials to accurately predict both parties' reaction towards polygamy to begin with. But at least i know that when considering the victim, sharing (partial robbing) is always less offensive than monopolizing (total robbing). =>Harem life. So don't dwell on this. It doesn't matter much. -As for the means: It is still acceptable if they try to directly ask for Miyuki's permission IMO. If it is ok, great!!! If it is not, well at least she tried. As long as you don't do it the coward way (like asking Yotsuba to arrange it and completely disregarding Miyuki's will. Do things behind Miyuki's back in general). I will have to wait for more details on the conservation. But considering how Honoka directly confronts Miyuki (not Tatsuya), it's unlikely they would ever choose the 2nd way if they ever decide to go down the mistress path. Bottom line is: disregarding whether Shizuku advises Honoka to be the mistress or to monopolize Tatsuya, it doesn't matter much. It is HOW they do it that matters. And Shizuku and Honoka have done a great job by being open about it with Miyuki. No back-stab, fair and square competition. That's how friends solve the ordeal of loving the same person: being open with each others, regardless of what they want to do. I approve.
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2015-09-11, 01:29 | Link #1276 | ||
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However, it’s different case with Miyuki; she loves Tatsuya. Miyuki might not allow a mistress since she hates Tatsurou’s mistress and Tatsuya, who knows her hatred very well, wouldn’t have any mistress since her happiness is everything. Besides, given Tatsuya condition right now, he doesn’t have even a bit desire to any woman much less a mistress. With Tatsuya personalities, he would only have one wife or none at all. Maya of course doesn’t care (as long as Tatsuya isn’t taken away from her it seems) if Miyuki is sad and kill herself, Tatsuya would just go world destruction mode and Maya would just laugh hysterically; her revenge is complete. Honoka already choose to fight for Tatsuya but not to be his mistress (a right choice); no matter how strong her dependency genes is, it still won’t make her to choose to be his mistress. Besides, Satou still doesn’t give us more info about her dependency, maybe it could change to other person as she falls in love with another. Honoka said so herself back in vol 5, that she is allowed to love him until she found a new love and it’s ok to love him since he doesn’t have any girlfriend/wife so it won’t become an illicit love. In other words, she is still able to find a new love and still know it's wrong to pursue married man. If light element clan could only love the first person she fall in love with, if she/he doesn't get that first love, they would be alone forever and die miserably; the light element clan would be gone by now. Well for you, Shizuku is giving a right advise to Honoka but not to me so just agree to disagree. Quote:
Ahahaha, if some readers like harem ending of course it’s less offensive for sharing and for me who doesn’t believe Mahouka is harem genre, monopolizing especially after marriage isn’t offensive. If Mahouka is harem genre, of course I don't care how much women Tatsuya has; he could get as much as he wants, it's harem anyway. Yep, I agree with you, 'how they do it' is what important to us, in the situation like this, I respect a person who confront directly more (fighting fair and square) than a person who is scheming behind. What Shizuku and Honoka did is still acceptable for me since she confront Miyuki directly like what Shizuku did back in vol 5. |
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2015-09-11, 03:06 | Link #1277 |
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Dang those are some long posts.
Summary of vol. 17 Mari proven to be worse girl Mayumi fans are cancers(Mari included) Honoka breeding material Shizuku best friend award Erika best girl Miyuki top girl Godsuya can get all the puss but can't get a boner except for worse girl's semen perfume Satroll is basically trolling hard. Spoiler for Lets enjoy some Lost Zero:
I really liked the art especially that chibi males; but girls are drawn chibi too.Satroll is implying something when he meant the LN will develop just like in the games. mfw I would never get someone cleaned it then make it my sig. Behold my suffering.
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2015-09-11, 03:39 | Link #1278 | |
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Mari isn’t worse girl, she is still a righteous girl except when it concerns Mayumi. Right now only Juumonji Katsuto is the best righteous guy to all (hopefully he remains so). Mayumi/Mari fans aren’t cancers, they’re only bias to them and thinks they’re best girls. The same with Miyuki fans who thinks she is the best girl or Lina’s etc. It’s just wouldn’t do to push our opinion of best girl to Tatsuya when he (or Satou is) could choose for himself what is the best for him. Shizuku is best friend award only to Honoka; same as Mari, the best friend award only to Mayumi. Erika, on the other hand, should be given a best friend awards to all of her friends and best positive girl Tatsuya is almost the best guy for Miyuki but not the best to other girls. Maya is best mother and Mother in law; best crazy, manipulative, suicidal character (and the best girl for me ). Gouki is best father. Koichi is best ‘obsessed with Yotsuba (Maya)’ guy. |
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