2019-12-02, 19:11 | Link #4363 |
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Sigh, this is basically Haganai all over again, there are 3 girls that clearly like the MC and have practically confessed and others that never had the same kind development. Then the writer, after developing the 3 the most chooses the "safe" option that isn't one of the 3 to not make a real choice between the ones that have made the most impact.
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2019-12-02, 19:34 | Link #4365 |
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^the writer still made him make a choice when it mattered and chose to not choose any of the ones that were putting an effort and that he was developing/developed. The MC ending up alone was just the last rusty nail on the series coffin.
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2019-12-02, 20:32 | Link #4366 |
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Based on the reactions of Japanese fans on the developments of 113, I assure you, they are just as perplexed as most of you are. Some even say that they would be pleased if it would be "anyone but Yotsuba" and they called her "the girl who keeps on running away".
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2019-12-02, 21:10 | Link #4367 |
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^I dunno. Yotsuba is now getting quite the stick everywhere but I cannot say that this was not expected. It's basically the more vocal Miku and Nino fans following the forums/twitters.
But I can assure that it would have been significantly higher if it were any other quint. We are talking about fans' "second pick" here. I have noticed in almost everywhere Yotsuba was the least disliked overall and read comments like if my girl doesn't win, I want it to be Yotsuba at least. But now that she has won, everyone is upset that their favourite didn't win. You cannot expect this not to happen. Don't get me wrong. I am still bitter that it was not Miku. For the first time in a long while, I desperately wanted two girls to win in two harem manga I have been following week-in week-out. The last time I felt like this was in KamiNomi. But I am just gonna accept it with a bit of sadness. Although, I have to admit I found myself in a bit of an odd position seeing Nino cry. That was harder to see than seeing Miku coming in to comfort her. The two of them comforting each other and accepting it with broken hearts felt like Negi's way to telling the two biggest fanbases to accept it and move on.
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2019-12-02, 22:03 | Link #4368 | |
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Also for yotsuba.... is there any chance that maybe he will ended up with another girl in the end? For now maybe they will started going out and maybe by some circumstances they broke off and he ended up with another quint? |
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On the other hand, Ichigo 100% did teach me that "screentime" does not necessarily mean better chances to win, and as such one shouldn't get emotionally invested in an LI just because she's getting more panels. This is especially true when the author said he wanted to write a manga that's like Ichigo 100%... XD Quote:
Of course, now that we're near the end of the manga, I guess it's a good time to actually go back with his interviews. In fact, before that editor interview, there was an interview before where Negi specifically said something to the likes of "He wanted to make such a manga himself so he thought about what is necessary and unnecessary". That was so weirdly phrased it got my attention immediately. Thinking about it, Negi wanted to make a manga about what is "necessary" and "unnecessary". And who in this manga is connected with those words? Fuutarou and KG of course! So yeah, with two things from interview that is pro-KG, it just made the subsequent Negi interview where he said "I don't like heroines who liked the MC from the beginning" to be damage control to me. Oh yeah, another interview also said Ayaneru was originally planned to reprise all the roles, but they deemed it too difficult. I could understand if they didn't have her reprise ANY role (or heck maybe even just the bride), but her reprising as Yotsuba was super duper fishy even with my "There's no way that'd happen" mindset. Overall, I'd say I was happy with the interviews hinting at KG being a major part in the plot (especially when naysayers were saying "Fuutarou already moved on" or what have you). The only thing that scared me was that Negi ALSO said he doesn't like the 'main heroine' archetype, which is too much on the nose just like the "I don't like heroines who liked MC from the beginning". Which is the reason why I think Itsuki still has a shot at this, if even just a long one. As an aside, there was also an interview where Negi admitted that the reason why Miku was given the first "story focus" was because she placed last, in an unreleased poll about the one-shot. He was so happy that Miku went from last place to first place because of his efforts. This means that indeed, Negi DOES use popularity polls to affect his writing, but only because he wants to raise the popularity of the worst ranking quint. Why is this relevant? In the official poll, Nino placed last. Any wonder why she got wanked so hard in the middle of the story? Another interview had Negi deciding on an antagonist sometime around SE arc, and he said he couldn't put Ituski/Nino because they already had an antagonists role already. So he said he had to choose between Miku, Ichika and Yotsuba, and he chose Ichika. In any case, from the interviews, Ichika/Nino/Miku have been given story focus because of factors outside of the ongoing plot, and NOT because their parts was actually integral. Their contributions to the plot wasn't premeditated, and thus if the 'winner' has been decided from the very beginning, it's very unlikely to be any of them. And with that, I think that covers just about everything why I always felt Yotsuba/Itsuki was endgame, including stuff outside of the actual story itself. I'm glad Yotsuba now is definitely part of endgame, now all I can do is wait to see if my fear of Itsuki is unfounded. Will expand on the reasons why I don't think Yotsuba end is a confirmed yet once direct from JP translations are online... hopefully that's soon as I can't sleep the past few nights lol.
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2019-12-03, 00:05 | Link #4370 | |
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2019-12-03, 03:57 | Link #4373 | |
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The only way Yotsuba can lose this is by treating Fuutarou's feelings as not LOVE, but serious necessary complex. He wants to be together with her not because he loves her, but he thinks she needs him to be there for her.
I don't think this will happen at all given how he smiled there at the end, but who knows. Just wish Negi wouldn't retcon Scrambled Eggs completely, because I still can't fathom Maeda's question this chapter, which heavily suggests that Fuutarou actually recognized Yotsuba first, but somehow he only talked about Miku in his monologue in Chapter 68 or how he was able to see through Miku's disguise to Ichika in Chapter 74. The only thing that comes to my mind is how KG flashed before him during the date with Yotsuba, but Itsuki also got that in the hospital. Quote:
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2019-12-03, 08:13 | Link #4374 | ||
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This whole juice thing is dumb. Apparently everything was already over in 102 and nothing in the last 3 months mattered.
Fuutarou didn't give a single fuck about Nino's kiss. Ichika kissed him after he made it seem like she has a chance and she already knew she lost a second after that. Fuutarou just laid there and took it when Miku kissed him even though he already made his decision. Why not make him buy the juice at the start of this chapter? If Negi wanted to keep the "I don't have money" charade for the karaage coupon to work, then he could've had Takeda treat him and have Fuutarou say "I want juice." Yotsuba forgetting her phone in the infirmary is also a dumb plot device. Quote:
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2019-12-03, 09:08 | Link #4375 |
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I am happy that Yotsuba is the winner. She finally found her happiness (assuming no bait and switch) Personally I do think all 5 girls have a chance to win and I am pretty satisfied if any of them is the winner. each has its own story to tell how to approach the romance. Ichika winning mean that Fuutarou willing to give her second chance even after all those problems she causes Nino winning means that Fuutarou likes her passion for pursuing her (admittedly very shojo) love. Miku winning mean that Fuutarou admire her gradually character development Itsuki winning mean Fuutarou value their friendship regarding advising each other as a "teacher". and of course, Yotsuba winning means he appreciates her continuous support way back from Kyoto days. We know that Fuutarou is appreciated all of them and "like" them all. But in the end, he only able to chose one. Honestly, Yotsuba deserves this as much as other quints. Fuutarou as a character value her support and selfless act as an important thing. I cannot wait for next chapter to know why Fuutarou chose her. I could be a bait and switch but thereis way too much hint for that.
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How come he values her selflessness, when he also agreed that what she is doing can't be considered normal? It's not a one time thing. He always thought that she should prioritize herself more, but somehow we are going to a direction, where her self-destructive nature won him over, because it's genuine in Fuutarou's eyes? Even though everything is the result of her thinking she is special, she is above the rest of the sisters, then when it's not the case, she just goes and takes up an entirely opposite personality in hopes of making amends forever? I feel like whatever explanation Negi is about to tell us, it's just going to make things worse. It's just going to show the rest of the sisters never stood a chance.
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Also, you contradicting yourself. Her selfless nature makes herself to be "not special" compared to other sisters. she should not get special treatment. I agree that whatever answer he gives my hurt other girls (and fans) feeling more. but that's the reality. Fuutarou have his own value to make his own decision and you should respect it. We see how the author handles it.
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I don't see the contradiction. She tought she is special, but it turned out not to be the case, when she failed. Then she took an entirely opposite personality up, meaning her selflessless is just a result of that failure and it's not her original, genuine personality. |
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